Defoliate??

xXairwolfXx

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All you did was cut a leaf off. So what?
Okay i'll explain once again. NORMALLY you top a plant to get more extensions more cola's right? But you lose the main stem/cola of the plant. INSTEAD of topping the plant"cutting the MAIN stem" i just cut ONE TOP FAN LEAF OFF from the MAIN stem. I get the same RESULT as topping but i don't lose the main stem. I get two extensions on the main steam PLUS the other extra growth extensions to get more colas.
 

xtsho

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Okay i'll explain once again. NORMALLY you top a plant to get more extensions more cola's right? But you lose the main stem/cola of the plant. INSTEAD of topping the plant"cutting the MAIN stem" i just cut ONE TOP FAN LEAF OFF from the MAIN stem. I get the same RESULT as topping but i don't lose the main stem. I get two extensions on the main steam PLUS the other extra growth extensions to get more colas.
I don't need you to explain anything to me.

Your logic is flawed.

Have a nice day
 

xXairwolfXx

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I don't need you to explain anything to me.

Your logic is flawed.

Have a nice day
I showed three pictures. There is no flawed logic. I back up with what i say. And if someone has questions i reply in kind. You don't like it. Don't reply. Have a good one.
 

BlandMeow

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I showed three pictures. There is no flawed logic. I back up with what i say. And if someone has questions i reply in kind. You don't like it. Don't reply. Have a good one.
Where are the extra colas after you cut? None of what you are saying makes any sense.
 

xXairwolfXx

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Where are the extra colas after you cut? None of what you are saying makes any sense.
If you top the plant you lose the main stem. Otherwise it becomes a tall plant with only one main cola. Cutting one top fan leaf off has the same effect as topping. The plant doesn't stretch and only has one cola. The only difference is i get to keep the main stem also for cola's. That's the difference.
 

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xXairwolfXx

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I just wanted to share my findings. That is all. People like you don't believe me fine. You want physical proof. Do it your selfs. :cool: Bye
 

xXairwolfXx

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I see exposed shoot growing well cuz of missing leaf, but no dividing. My first top is always a FIM anyways
That is exactly my point. It's a bit different then Fimming. The plant readjust itself to two stems by keeping the main stem also. It also promotes the plant to extent it's branches. Like Topping and Fimming. But instead of cutting the main stem you cut the top fan leaf. About dividing, my plant has divided. In the earlier stage of my plant. See picture.
 

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ProPheT 216

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Not trying to b a dick but no. That just the shoot that was underneath growing, their is no division above your cut, you just exposed that one shoot to more light and pulled the top to the side. The lower shoots dont seem to be encouraged to grow20220714_161820.jpg
This is a FIM and then topped plant
 

xXairwolfXx

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Not trying to b a dick but no. That just the shoot that was underneath growing, their is no division above your cut, you just exposed that one shoot to more light and pulled the top to the side. The lower shoots dont seem to be encouraged to grow
This is a FIM and then topped plant
Funny, how much you know about my plant. You people just keep attacking and circle jerking my ass for something i noticed that could help other people. Like i said i cut the top fan leaf to PROMOTE branch extension grow. I DIDN'T HAVE any extension grow on my plant before the cut. I know what Topping and Fimming is. I am just showing OP of another option then just defoliating the whole freaking plant. That is all nothing more. Want to have factual proof? All you have to do is try it on your own plant. Don't attack and discredit me for your own shortcomings. Have a wonder full day.
 

PJ Diaz

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Funny, how much you know about my plant. You people just keep attacking and circle jerking my ass for something i noticed that could help other people. Like i said i cut the top fan leaf to PROMOTE branch extension grow. I DIDN'T HAVE any extension grow on my plant before the cut. I know what Topping and Fimming is. I am just showing OP of another option then just defoliating the whole freaking plant. That is all nothing more. Want to have factual proof? All you have to do is try it on your own plant. Don't attack and discredit me for your own shortcomings. Have a wonder full day.
The only way you can have any sort of proof is to do a side by side controlled test with identical clones, one of them being a control plant. Otherwise you are simply correlating with you see to be a result of your actions, however that is very flawed logic. Again, correlation does not imply causation. Your "findings" are the epitome of bro-science.
 

xXairwolfXx

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The only way you can have any sort of proof is to do a side by side controlled test with identical clones, one of them being a control plant. Otherwise you are simply correlating with you see to be a result of your actions, however that is very flawed logic. Again, correlation does not imply causation. Your "findings" are the epitome of bro-science.
Here is what i will do. i got 5 plants all two weeks old. When these are a month old i will cut these the same way "top fan leaf cut off". Also have another plant i just did today. I will make a new thread about it. Also update with pictures. Stay tuned.
 

PJ Diaz

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Here is what i will do. i got 5 plants all two weeks old. When these are a month old i will cut these the same way "top fan leaf cut off". Also have another plant i just did today. I will make a new thread about it. Also update with pictures. Stay tuned.
If you have 5 plants, the thing to do is keep two as control plants, and then "top fan leaf cut off" two plants, and also regularly top one plant. Assuming that these are identical clones, then your results will begin to have merit. If they are not idential clones, then your test would be flawed.
 

xXairwolfXx

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If you have 5 plants, the thing to do is keep two as control plants, and then "top fan leaf cut off" two plants, and also regularly top one plant. Assuming that these are identical clones, then your results will begin to have merit. If they are not idential clones, then your test would be flawed.
Nah i'am not gonna do this test just to follow your expectations m8. I have 5 plants. I don't have any clones. These seeds i cultivated myself. No plant is exactly 100% identical. It should be the same result for any cannabis plant like Topping and Fimming. What you want is that i dig my own grave with this. Becoming a laughting stock. That's what you want. So you either tune in or not. Opinion is welcome,yet you're expectation can take a hike for all i care.
 

StareCase

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... If you top the plant you lose the main stem ...
Yes you most certainly do. And what a great way to improve yield potential since your taller Xmas tree style plant will soon become a flatter bush.

That one main stem can now become 2 opposing stems. You can start spreading those 2 opposing stems laterally and really open up that middle branches to good lighting. Now you get some real top cola potential. And better control their height too.

I reckon that once you do a manifold/SCROG grow that you won't go back.
 
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