Destroying the stock pile,should you be compensated?

Hi all
Just wondering your thoughts on this part of the new package....?

Should we not receive a credit or compensation for destroying our existing allowed amounts.?
Seems such a waste to have grown completely good meds and then have to destroy them come a deadline....What are they thinking..?

Would we not be better off shipping our stockpiles to the LP of our choice, and have them return it to us for free.....?
Or finding someone sympathetic and hiding your stash off site, for future use

I have read that the sale of genetics/seed/clones would be allowed from patient to LP....otherwise there would be no way for those patients with specific strain needs
to ensure any of the LP's would be even growing their type of meds.

You can ensure that when LP's need to destroy meds, they will be compensated for the lost revenue of an inventory gone bad, at least thru taxes.

I think our government is fucked right up. Just one big scandle going on in parliment

And I don't understand why we have to destroy our stockpile, my possession permit doesn't expire till July.

Begin destroying your stockpile immediately by burning it, slowly, through tubes of paper!

HC didn't have the resources to inspect your grow operation so what makes you think they will have the resources to go ensure you have destroyed crop? Even having your name and address, they would still need a warrant to come into your home to ensure it has been done.

Ya no kidding they're too busy hiding how they're blowing our tax dollars. The whole senate is corrupt,we need more people like rob ford in parliament.

martyg said:

Ya no kidding they're too busy hiding how they're blowing our tax dollars. The whole senate is corrupt,we need more people like rob ford in parliament.

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At least he's somewhat honest, an idiot mind you, but somewhat honest.

Lol I agree but I like mr. Ford he reminds if Chris Farley

Rob Ford is getting my vote for PM.

This is how you know that the people that made the MMPR are completely out of touch with reality. The only thing we will be destroying are these illegal and unconstitutional regulations in court.
R v. Davis son.

Do you really understand the Conroy arguments Brian? Explain your confidence to us. I am not even hopeful . Give us hope, tell us what you know.

Yes I do. I am not worried one small little bit. Supreme court rulings are binding and its illegal to make a policy that violates the charter of rights and freedoms. The legal team of conroy will show a judge what ending home growing is going to do to the 15 most effected patients and the judges are going to uphold the LAW and CONSTITUTION (ie. Charter of Rights and Freedoms) of our country. Just because Harper has a whim doesn't mean it will automatically happen.

Sorry, but that tells me nothing, would you debate actual arguments with me? How is the government breaking our charter of rights? How will this affect the 15 patients? Let's pretend to be the lawyers and this is our court. You can beat me up with all the naysayer support you have.

Sounds like your on a fishing expedition KG...There is really no sense in tipping the cards ,especially since its not necessary, to point out the obvious ...
if you like to read start with the "constitution" there is really a need for these type of documents....
Please try to stick to the theme of the thread..I was wondering how "we should"? and how much "we should"? be compensated for the transfer or destruction of our stockpiles....
come the deadline..
Thanks in advance.

Kootenaygirl said:

Do you really understand the Conroy arguments Brian? Explain your confidence to us. I am not even hopeful . Give us hope, tell us what you know.

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Yeah only Brian and a handful of others haven't figured out that, that case has zero chance of winning lol. Takes some longer than others to adapt to changes.

There are a number of levels the new regulations can be attacked, but they start with the limits the government puts on your medications administration. Juicing works best with fresh plants as a starter and the volume required to do it is far more than the government allows to even be ordered.

The Feds have no say in Health Care (in our constitution it is explicitly delegated to the Provinces). What they do have a say on is the purse strings.

They do have a say on Criminal matters (Federally they have the final word in fact). However their criminal laws have been ruled unconstitutional repeatedly because the violate the Charter and the Health Care provision of the constitution. Once it was shown to have medical value the criminal laws were no longer applicable and it becomes and issue of Health.

Why the courts asked the Feds to handle the program - when they are not supposed to have authority over Health issues - is a mystery. My guess is the justification came from the criminal laws. The fact the courts didn't completely toss the criminal laws indicates that they have sympathy for them and will do everything they possibly can to ensure they remain on the books.

I don't really have high hopes for this lawsuit, but as far as the legal wording goes - if the judges were a-political - it's a slam dunk case. But the judges IMO have shown they will bend to allow the authoritarianism to continue.

It will be interesting to see what happens either way.

Kootenaygirl said:

Sorry, but that tells me nothing, would you debate actual arguments with me? How is the government breaking our charter of rights? How will this affect the 15 patients? Let's pretend to be the lawyers and this is our court. You can beat me up with all the naysayer support you have.

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Why don't you google it lol. You should already know you seem to know everything else

Thanks Evil G, this is precisely the level of confidence I have too, and believe me I've researched. Nice to know I'm not alone in this thinking.

Yes, in no uncertain terms, they should compensate us for our stockpiles. HC should give us all coupons to replace our stockpiles at all the different LP's, LOL.

I honestly believe there is a good chance the judge will at least enact some legal gobbledegook to extend our ATP, PPL, and DG's.

He DOES have a court date in time, thank Jah!

The price argument seems valid to me, though I don't know if it will hold water in the courtroom.

Will there really be ACCEPTABLE meds available for everyone on April 1? Let alone the price? I have tried their homogenized & irradiated stuff, no thanks. They imported some cannabis that another country likely didn't want for their market? No thanks again. What else ya got? What if all the LP's are sold out?

If the judge determines there may not be enough supply for everyone on April 1, then it would seem like a no-brainer to me to at least extend our current rights, maybe for another year. I'm filing my claim before the 18th. Before that I will attempt to register with every known LP, and note their responses, or lack thereof. These notes will be included in my claim.

Any claim filed now will be automatically "Stayed" until after Conroy's case. So if Conroy doesn't sink them, all of the individual claims may slam dunk them.

Please think only positive thoughts about all of these claims, maybe file your own. When Batman looked like he was a'goner to the shark, didn't he find a solution to get away intact? Persistance (and maybe some shark repellant) will see justice come true!