DHP Presents Citizen Cob 1812 3500k 80CRI Vs 1812 3500k 90 CRI

tomate

tomate

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The Dawg said:
The 90 Cri Produced Exactly 179.7 grams And The 80 Cri Produced 213.2 For A Difference Of 33.9 Grams.
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Keeping in mind that the 90 CRI plant took what, 3 weeks less to finish, at only 33.9g less on final weight.

The Dawg said:
First Let Me Say That I Will Have To Rerun This Test. The Reason Is With Defoliation Of The 90 Cri Plant. You See I Defoliated The 90 Cri At 42 Days Into Flowering And that Biotch Shut Down Which Is Why I Didn't Defoliate The 80 Cri.
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Also maybe a more constant light schedule. I mean, directly to 12/12 after veg period without altering anything.
Eliminating all unnecessary variables will make the results better comparable.

But still, the results are impressive, even if the run wasn't perfect. Thanks a lot @The Dawg.
 
Jimmyclone42

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Thanks dawg.. This was a great experiment.. So a 80/90cri combo seems to be the best of both worlds.. Looking forward to next run here buddy..
Cheers
 
The Dawg

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nogod_ said:
Which looks like better smoke?

Hard to find the goods after wading thru pages of lettuce growers regaling a potgrowing community with a whole lot of useless spectrum nitpicking!

Thanks for sharing dawg!
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Both Plants Are Fire. I'm Currently Smoking Some 90 Cri Damn I Love To Wake And Bake On Rainy Days :hump:

BuddyColas said:
So it was an upset victory by cri 80. Now the CRI 90 camp is demanding a rematch. Glad you're hosting the rematch! One take away thus far...don't be pitching your old CRI 80 LEDs just yet.:mrgreen:
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I Wouldn't Call It An Upset Cause I Fucked The 90 With Defoliation.:wall:
 
The Dawg

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caretak3r said:
NO, don't pitch those 80s, just add 660nm reds if you want to adust for the faster finish! :)
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Yes You Could Add 660's And While Your At It Add Some 630's Also. This Is What I See In The 90 Cri Is The Added Benefit Of The Spectrum Between 630 and 660 :hug:

JimmyJames905 said:
I'm using 4000k 80 CRI mixed with 1750k. Which ones do I throw away? Lol.
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All Your Cree Led's :clap:

tomate said:
Keeping in mind that the 90 CRI plant took what, 3 weeks less to finish, at only 33.9g less on final weight.


Also maybe a more constant light schedule. I mean, directly to 12/12 after veg period without altering anything.
Eliminating all unnecessary variables will make the results better comparable.

But still, the results are impressive, even if the run wasn't perfect. Thanks a lot @The Dawg.
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The 90 Cri Should Have Taken 7-10 More Days To Finish. What Impress Me Was The She Still Gave Me 179.7 Grams :weed:

Jimmyclone42 said:
Thanks dawg.. This was a great experiment.. So a 80/90cri combo seems to be the best of both worlds.. Looking forward to next run here buddy..
Cheers
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Your Welcome Brother. I Promise I Learned My Lesson Using Not So Pristine Clones :eyesmoke:
 
KonopCh

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I've got 28V hole for upgrading my 3000K 80 CRI Citizen 1212. What do you guys recommend to add? 660, 730, royal blue, UV or maybe something else?
 
Strainbane

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Thanks for the test Dawg. It is hard to get past the pics earlier in the grow where the 90 cri setup was leaving the 80 in the dust. The combo of shortened time with increased stretch seems like the obvious winner. Even with the added weight with the 80 you are only talking like 1.5 gram per day. I would rather have that time used for flowering the next run. If you consider the defoliation stunting growth it looks even better for the 90 cri.

I wonder what the trigger point is with the added reds and far reds. I am running 4 cxb 3500k 80 cri and 1 cxb 3000k 90 cri in an x with the 90 being in the middle. I wonder if it is enough to get the shorter times and stretch. I am 4 days into my 1st run with the light so I will find out I guess.

I also picked up some of the led bulbs at costco this last week. They have a 25 dollar utility rebate at the counter on 100 and 65 watt equivalent 2700k 90 cri and 5000k packs. You end up paying a buck a bulb for them. 35.00 minus 25.00 at the register on a 10 pack. I plan on using the 5000k ones for a seedling tray but am wondering if I should throw the 2700 90 cri ones in my tent as side lighting for reds. They are pretty bright with the plastic cover popped off.
 
thetr33man

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Id also like to see a straight cut to 12/12 or whatever your final flowering time is. Reducing it slowly is another variable that could throw things off...
 
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KonopCh said:
I've got 28V hole for upgrading my 3000K 80 CRI Citizen 1212. What do you guys recommend to add? 660, 730, royal blue, UV or maybe something else?
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I would in your place took 10*660 + 3*730. Either less or more, depending on the driver current.
There are convenient solderless cree xpe stars.
 
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KonopCh said:
1050mA is my driver. Can they be powered 18/6 or just only 10min per day?
How can I wire them with my COBs?
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Connect in series, the same as COBs.
1A is the maximum permissible current for red diodes(cree xp-e)
If you can make a good cooling, then feed to 1A, if you can not, then it is better to make two lines in parallel in 0.5A (20 * 660 + 6 * 730).
If you notice that the interstices will be lengthened, then it's worth to remove 730 from the setup. But 6W far red is not so much for your setup.
You can make two circuits. Cobs + 660 + 730 and 730 separately. And, using the relay, switch the circuit 730 at the end of the day for 10 minutes.

Forgot to specify, the diodes take 2.3-2.5V at 1A and 2.1-2.3V at 0.5A each.
Yes, and the efficiency will be higher at 0.5A ...
 
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Friends, good morning!

I'm starting a cultivation with cobs, before using a dual agro 400w. And I mounted two cob panels with 5 cobs CLU048 -1212 3500k 90 each, using driver 240B-1.4 amper .... which gives me approximately 473W, taking 6% of driver loss.

My grow has 1.20 length X 0.60 depth X 2.10 height, a friend warned me that I am using too much cobs for my space and that I may have overligth problem.

What do you think? Leaving both panels at maximum, is beating between 45,000 Lux and 60,000 Lux at 60 cm 23.6220 "23 5/8.

Ty
 

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The Dawg

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Rodrigo Pereira de Melo said:
Friends, good morning!

I'm starting a cultivation with cobs, before using a dual agro 400w. And I mounted two cob panels with 5 cobs CLU048 -1212 3500k 90 each, using driver 240B-1.4 amper .... which gives me approximately 473W, taking 6% of driver loss.

My grow has 1.20 length X 0.60 depth X 2.10 height, a friend warned me that I am using too much cobs for my space and that I may have overligth problem.

What do you think? Leaving both panels at maximum, is beating between 45,000 Lux and 60,000 Lux at 60 cm 23.6220 "23 5/8.

Ty
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I Would Use 1 Panel At Half Power For Early Veg Then Full Power Late Veg And At The Start Of The 4th Week Of Flower Add The Second Lamp And Run Each At 200 Watts :hump:
 
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