Dictate 1st grow skunk #1 hydro STEALTH CLOSET need suggestions [pics]

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dictate101 said:
just added NUTES today. FloraNocva Gro series. It said 7.5mL per gallon at thsi stage. I cut that into almost a third lol(hearing too much about over fertilizing and over nuting) so for the 5 gallons in my resevoir i was supposed to put 37mL total. i put about 17mL in. Im gonna nute this for a week or two. When i switch to the flowering nutes do i haveto flush with regular water for a day? and is it ok to only use the grow nutes for a week - week and half? help please :confused:
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it was smart to reduce the amount of nutes. you should have a PPM/EC meter so you know exactly how much nutes you have.

Switching to flowering:
After you switch to 12/12, the plant will continue vegetative growing for 1-2 weeks.
if you want to encourage this natural growth, then continue adding your grow nutes for 1-2 weeks.
you can switch to bloom immediately after switching to 12/12 or anytime up to two weeks after switching - doesn't matter.
what does matter is, after switching to bloom nutes you should once again, greatly reduce the amount you use - just like you did when you first started adding grow nutes.

example: your PPM is 980 when you decide to switch to using bloom nutes (you've already changed to 12/12 lighting). The first time you add the bloom nutes your PPM should be around 250-350 and you can increase from there.

so it is kind of like starting over again.

btw - i couldn't get used to the new avatar and switched back :mrgreen:
 
Joe2iisbeing

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The best thing for that streching would be to plant them a tad bit lower but if you cant just turn a fan on them to make those stems a little stronger
 
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i dont get it i just added 1/3 of the nutes i was supposed to and the second day i see yellow spots on the leaves and my one limpster and a leaf completely burned off . thats over nuting from what i read.... i dont get it . should i flush and just use regular water throughout the whole grow? will my bud still be decent without nutes?
 
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anyone can help? why the hell am i getting nute overburns with 1/3 of nute added and only running for two days i think it might ahve destroyed one of my babies. Im gonna do just water grow with this grow..... anyone done a hydro water only grow no nutes? please let me know. Thanks
 
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do you have a pH and PPM meter? if not, you'll need both for hydro. If you do, what are your pH and PPM and how old are the plants you are feeding?

you don't need any nutes for the first few weeks of growth. even so, 1/3 strength nutes shouldn't be burning your plants.
 
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ahhh i seee. Thats the problem started nutes too early. I was only trying to veg these babies for 3 weeks tops lol? guess my pans have now changed. Im only gonna veg for a month total so the third week i add nutes for just one week? i dont get it? cuz then i goto flowering which i have flower nutes for? maybe i should try without nutes my frist grow
 
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dictate101 said:
ahhh i seee. Thats the problem started nutes too early. I was only trying to veg these babies for 3 weeks tops lol? guess my pans have now changed. Im only gonna veg for a month total so the third week i add nutes for just one week? i dont get it? cuz then i goto flowering which i have flower nutes for? maybe i should try without nutes my frist grow
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I think the Lucas formula uses only bloom nutes so yes - you can do something very much like that. if the plants look nute deficient add some - otherwise give it a try without if you want. and some strains (i heard blueberry is one) that is very nute-sensitive. i've been growing PPP which seems nearly incapable of nute burn.
 
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dictate101 said:
ahhh i seee. Thats the problem started nutes too early. I was only trying to veg these babies for 3 weeks tops lol? guess my pans have now changed. Im only gonna veg for a month total so the third week i add nutes for just one week? i dont get it? cuz then i goto flowering which i have flower nutes for? maybe i should try without nutes my frist grow
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You really need to take care of your babies, only 3 weeks for the veg stage... You should wait until you have a good size plant on a 24/0. When you have a plant between 12-16 inches, clone it. Then when the clones are about 2.5 weeks old put them in a 12/12. See if your mother plants are male or female. Remember the more time and care you put into your babies, the more they will reward you later :)
 
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very nice christian. Although i have studied cloning, soging, LSTing . This is still my first grow... in hydro nonethe less. I am trying to do it fairly simple but like i said before and like i say again im all about QUALITY not quantity. These babies are recovering nicely after flushing with water i will wait till the third week to add nutes. I was just asking to see if the quality of my smoke will be affected by nutrients i heard soo many different answers for this. What affects quality? it CANNOt be just the genetics....
 
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dictate101 said:
very nice christian. Although i have studied cloning, soging, LSTing . This is still my first grow... in hydro nonethe less. I am trying to do it fairly simple but like i said before and like i say again im all about QUALITY not quantity. These babies are recovering nicely after flushing with water i will wait till the third week to add nutes. I was just asking to see if the quality of my smoke will be affected by nutrients i heard soo many different answers for this. What affects quality? it CANNOt be just the genetics....
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Good question (what affects quality?). Genetics is the single biggest factor with one important caveat - all things being equal. I would think the following list all contributes to quality of weed (besides genetics). And when i say quality, i mean not only strength but taste and smoothness as well.
Light quality
Nutrient quality
water quality
proper harvest time
proper harvest method
proper drying time and method
proper curing time and method

Books have been written about all these subjects (or at least dedicate chapters) and i'm not sure if expert growers have reached any kind of consensus on how to do all these things right.

But studying this forum is a good a place as any (and better than most) to start.
 
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Yes email, this forum is the best place to learn about it lol. If it wasnt for this site i would have never gone from idea to action. But these are my last skunk #1 seeds (all the other ones died on my fail of an attempt of a first grow) i still got 3 supergirl seeds im gonna germinate tonight and get going. After this grow i will hopefully know how good "skunk " is. Maybe go for a white widow next time around.
 
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Here are some pictures of my babies current state.I know they are still healing from that nute burn last week but trust me they look alot better now than they did back then thats for sure.got the ligth about 18in away ... it was 81 degrees this mourning with a 28% humidity. Its currently Day 20 from seed. Ive been vegging them for about 2 and a half weeks today friday. so next friday i wll start flowering. Think im gonna lower the light now to about 12in . and next saturday i will start delivering nutes. Also thinking about topping. I know this would be the prime time to do so ....... someone help me out is it toolate/tooearly to top? Any reccomendations should i even mess with topping on my first grow?
 

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ugh i check my plants today and they are growing but for some goddamn reason the new leaves very tips are getting burned? like the nute burn? i only have PUR filtered 5.9 pH water in the resevoir? how the hell could that be happeneing? maybe the pH is fucked up in the resevoir i shall check it when i get home today. Gonna try putting new water in it temps stay about 87 degrees with 28% humidity with the 400w MH bulb about 13inch away from the top of the plants. Any suggestions on what could be going wrong?
 
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not sure if this is the problem but 87 is high. should be closer to 75 if you can get it down there. could they be getting a little burned from the lights and not the nutes?
 
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it could be from the light. its really hard keepin temps down i have a high powered fan blowing air in and then i have a small circulation fan inside. I might haveto get another 4 in incline 177 cfm fan for intake? i just flushed the resevoir with new filtered 5.9 water. I
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heightened the light about 8 inch. I think these could be different burnes because the nute burnes were yellow burns that were tying tot ak eover the whole leaf but these burns are at the very tips of the new leaves and are more black/brown than yellow. Anyways im on day 23 i would say they are about 7-9 inch tall. How much more vegging should i do? i think maybe one more week ill post pics tonight so it will help decide. I've had the lights on 24/7 since 01/27/2008. Cant wait to flower : ) . Anyways i just took my last 3 supergirl femmed seeds and started to germinate now i gotta make a small vegging room so i can get these in the same flowering room... anyone have good QUALITY results with femmed seeds? The main fault in my operation so far is that i only did 3 skunk plants,. one of them is fucked i doubt its still alive and the other two look as healthy as can be (besides the nute burns in early stages) . Now i haveto hope thier female? lol bummer only going with femm seeds now unlesss i hear otherwise from the pros....
 
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you'll have to decide when to start flowering just know that they can double or triple in size (depending on strain and other variables).

i've used fem seeds and have had good luck but your mileage may vary. others i know say that there is a higher risk of hermies and while I haven't experienced that - they could be correct. i don't know.

dictate101 said:
it could be from the light. its really hard keepin temps down i have a high powered fan blowing air in and then i have a small circulation fan inside. I might haveto get another 4 in incline 177 cfm fan for intake? i just flushed the resevoir with new filtered 5.9 water. I
DAY 23
heightened the light about 8 inch. I think these could be different burnes because the nute burnes were yellow burns that were tying tot ak eover the whole leaf but these burns are at the very tips of the new leaves and are more black/brown than yellow. Anyways im on day 23 i would say they are about 7-9 inch tall. How much more vegging should i do? i think maybe one more week ill post pics tonight so it will help decide. I've had the lights on 24/7 since 01/27/2008. Cant wait to flower : ) . Anyways i just took my last 3 supergirl femmed seeds and started to germinate now i gotta make a small vegging room so i can get these in the same flowering room... anyone have good QUALITY results with femmed seeds? The main fault in my operation so far is that i only did 3 skunk plants,. one of them is fucked i doubt its still alive and the other two look as healthy as can be (besides the nute burns in early stages) . Now i haveto hope thier female? lol bummer only going with femm seeds now unlesss i hear otherwise from the pros....
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Me and my gf decided we are going to flower early. Its our first grow and we have learned a lot lol. turned off the MH its been on 24/7 for the psat 23 days. Anywas here are some pics of the two that look ok and the third one i think is dead? need some confirmation on that.... serious nute burns(if u didnt read the whole thing i gave them nutes 1 week into grow and od'd) but other than that i think they look ok? anyways gonna start flowering soon. :joint: making a seperate veg box for my SG seeds in germination. Any ideas on that? :joint::hump:
 

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