DIY KASHI BLEND

McShnutz

Well-Known Member
Hey what's up roll it up? I wanted to throw up my recipe for a DIY generic version of Build-A-Soil Kashi blend. If your like me and there isn't a single grow shop in a 100 mile radius, this forces us to either pony up the dough OR get creative and self reliant. Fortunately I do have a local beer brewing shop a 1/2 mile from my home, a home depot and a grocery store. This recipe is pretty simple and very cheap.

For the base were going to use Malted barley. I've chosen 6 Row Pilsner malted barley, but any variety can be used such as a light or dark malted grain or marris otter.

In addition to the Malt we have other grains and I like to create diversity with anything I do. I decided to use Bulgur, it's a form of red wheat but without the hulls and its already milled.
Next up is oats, I like to use steel cut, mainly I think it's just the appearance that appeals to me, very similar to the bulgur, it's already milled.
Another one I like to use is flaked Rye berry, this is a very nutrious grain and anyone who has any form of mycological experience is very familiar with, as it is the preferred grain to culture mushroom spawn with. I chose the flaked/rolled version.

Lastly I like to use hemp seed hearts, very similar to flax seed it is high in omega fatty oils. The one thing that all of these choosen have in common is plant based proteins, of which any veteran grower will tell you is a powerhouse for the garden.
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Once you've gathered all the base protein mix it together and dump out onto a sheet of cardboard. To this base mixture I add micronized Rock powder, kelp meal and coconut sugar. I like to use a flour sift to evenly dust the grains. I prefer to add each one independently through the sift but ultimately it's all going to the same place so technically you can mix it all together and apply as one. Once that's done we need to hydrate it. The primary work horse that makes this ammendment work is the Lactic Acid Bacteria or LAB.
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Now, to each their own, but the LAB is essential and cannot be left out. However this is optional, you can add additional goodies such as B Vitamins and hormones, superthrive is what I use. In addition to that I also like to use some of my LAB fermented extracts, such as fresh Aloe and seed spouts from corn or mung bean.
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You want to spray these liquids onto the dry mixture. I like to use a hand held 2000ml pump sprayer but a spray bottle will work just as well. Allow time for the ammendment mixture to absorb the liquid and semi dry. Mix everything up now on the sheet of cardboard, were looking for uniformity of all ingredients. Spread it out again, thin and reapply the liquid, and allow time to absorb and semi dry.
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At this point ( couple hrs) the mixture will be dry to the touch but have a retained moisture content. At no point should the mixture be excessively sticky or tacky, if it is then it's not dried enough. Allow more time to dry.
Once it's dry enough, bag it up into 1 gal zip lock bags. This recipe will fill (2) 1gal bags full. Press out all the air and seal it up. Allow to sit and "ferment" for 1-2 weeks.
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To check the progress of the final fermentation and determine if it's done, you can crack the bag and take a whiff. It should smell sweet/tart and have a pleasant yeasty malted aroma. An odor thats unmistakable and you'll know it's certainly fermented. You can use this right away as a top dress or because it is quite a potent mix and only requires 1/3cup per plant you can further dry it out completely, and this helps to arrest microbial activity and preserves potency. I like to dry mine for about 3 days and then back into the bag. Store in a cool/dry place.

3 lbs Malted Barley
1 lb Steel Cut Oats
1 lb Bulgur
1 lb Coconut sugar
.5 lb Flaked Rye Berry
.5 lb Hemp Hearts
.5 lb Kelp Meal
.5 lb Rock Powder (micronized)
1000ml LAB serum
120ml Fermented Aloe Extract
60ml Fermented Seed sprout Extract
30ml Superthrive (B Vitamins)

I hope this is helpful to those who take an OMRI approach to their gardens. If your familiar with BAS kashi blend and like it, you'll love this recipe. The soil biology go absolutely bonkers for it and you can expect extreme and rapid colonization. Once you go plant protiens you'd be hooked on how lush, healthy and vigorous your plants are and all you have to do is give plain pure water. Note this is a complimentary ammendment if used at 1/3cup per plant.

There's a second half to this recipe that involves nutrified biochar and amino acids. My recipe differs from BAS, for those interested I'd be happy to post up my method. Happy Growing yall
 
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2cent

Well-Known Member
Hey what's up roll it up? I wanted to throw up my recipe for a DIY generic version of Build-A-Soil Kashi blend. If your like me and there isn't a single grow shop in a 100 mile radius, this forces us to either pony up the dough OR get creative and self reliant. Fortunately I do have a local beer brewing shop a 1/2 mile from my home, a home depot and a grocery store. This recipe is pretty simple and very cheap.

For the base were going to use Malted barley. I've chosen 6 Row Pilsner malted barley, but any variety can be used such as a light or dark malted grain or marris otter.

In addition to the Malt we have other grains and I like to create diversity with anything I do. I decided to use Bulgur, it's a form of red wheat but without the hulls and its already milled.
Next up is oats, I like to use steel cut, mainly I think it's just the appearance that appeals to me, very similar to the bulgur, it's already milled.
Another one I like to use is flaked Rye berry, this is a very nutrious grain and anyone who has any form of mycological experience is very familiar with, as it is the preferred grain to culture mushroom spawn with. I chose the flaked/rolled version.

Lastly I like to use hemp seed hearts, very similar to flax seed it is high in omega fatty oils. The one thing that all of these choosen have in common is plant based proteins, of which any veteran grower will tell you is a powerhouse for the garden.
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Once you've gathered all the base protein mix it together and dump out onto a sheet of cardboard. To this base mixture I add micronized Rock powder, kelp meal and coconut sugar. I like to use a flour sift to evenly dust the grains. I prefer to add each one independently through the sift but ultimately it's all going to the same place so technically you can mix it all together and apply as one. Once that's done we need to hydrate it. The primary work horse that makes this ammendment work is the Lactic Acid Bacteria or LAB.
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Now, to each their own, but the LAB is essential and cannot be left out. However this is optional, you can add additional goodies such as B Vitamins and hormones, superthrive is what I use. In addition to that I also like to use some of my LAB fermented extracts, such as fresh Aloe and seed spouts from corn or mung bean.
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You want to spray these liquids onto the dry mixture. I like to use a hand held 2000ml pump sprayer but a spray bottle will work just as well. Allow time for the ammendment mixture to absorb the liquid and semi dry. Mix everything up now on the sheet of cardboard, were looking for uniformity of all ingredients. Spread it out again, thin and reapply the liquid, and allow time to absorb and semi dry.
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At this point ( couple hrs) the mixture will be dry to the touch but have a retained moisture content. At no point should the mixture be excessively sticky or tacky, if it is then it's not dried enough. Allow more time to dry.
Once it's dry enough, bag it up into 1 gal zip lock bags. This recipe will fill (2) 1gal bags full. Press out all the air and seal it up. Allow to sit and "ferment" for 1-2 weeks.
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To check the progress of the final fermentation and determine if it's done, you can crack the bag and take a whiff. It should smell sweet/tart and have a pleasant yeasty malted aroma. An odor thats unmistakable and you'll know it's certainly fermented. You can use this right away as a top dress or because it is quite a potent mix and only requires 1/3cup per plant you can further dry it out completely, and this helps to arrest microbial activity and preserves potency. I like to dry mine for about 3 days and then back into the bag. Store in a cool/dry place.

3 lbs Malted Barley
1 lb Steel Cut Oats
1 lb Bulgur
1 lb Coconut sugar
.5 lb Flaked Rye Berry
.5 lb Hemp Hearts
.5 lb Kelp Meal
.5 lb Rock Powder (micronized)
1000ml LAB serum
120ml Fermented Aloe Extract
60ml Fermented Seed sprout Extract
30ml Superthrive (B Vitamins)

I hope this is helpful to those who take an OMRI approach to their gardens. If your familiar with BAS kashi blend and like it, you'll love this recipe. The soil biology go absolutely bonkers for it and you can expect extreme and rapid colonization. Once you go plant protiens you'd be hooked on how lush, healthy and vigorous your plants are and all you have to do is give plain pure water. Note this is a complimentary ammendment if used at 1/3cup per plant.

There's a second half to this recipe that involves nutrified biochar and amino acids. My recipe differs from BAS, for those interested I'd be happy to post up my method. Happy Growing yall
can’t believe you haven’t had a reply man , for a guy who has read too much gone from understanding it all to messing it up and rechecking everything this is an awesome post … I want to see your next

I am not using neem due to partners allergy’s and using reduced kelp after sodium tox and finding out microbes reduce at high levels of kelp temporarily too by microbemans Tim Wilkins videos showing the kelp at like 0.63 % or somthing did better than cups ,microbeorganics.com
so I am interested to see your soil blend also soil mix and recipies cause I’ve followed a few bits off you ,and I love bokashi looked for a guide like this for god knows howlong , I asked about hemp too was told the oil was too much to use as a feed ? I got shit tons of em lol that’s all

any pics of the plants ?

currently I am using my own mix of soil and about to Reamend a new batch of soil so lets see I may copy ya totaly for a grow n see difference

ps let me access ya profile plzzz haha can’t search ya threads etc have to google ya name n hope for the best lol
 
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McShnutz

Well-Known Member
can’t believe you haven’t had a reply man , for a guy who has read too much gone from understanding it all to messing it up and rechecking everything this is an awesome post … I want to see your next

I am not using neem due to partners allergy’s and using reduced kelp after sodium tox and finding out microbes reduce at high levels of kelp temporarily too by microbemans Tim Wilkins videos showing the kelp at like 0.63 % or somthing did better than cups ,microbeorganics.com
so I am interested to see your soil blend also soil mix and recipies cause I’ve followed a few bits off you ,and I love bokashi looked for a guide like this for god knows howlong , I asked about hemp too was told the oil was too much to use as a feed ? I got shit tons of em lol that’s all

any pics of the plants ?

currently I am using my own mix of soil and about to Reamend a new batch of soil so lets see I may copy ya totaly for a grow n see difference

ps let me access ya profile plzzz haha can’t search ya threads etc have to google ya name n hope for the best lol
Thanks brother, that's very kind of you to say about me! I definitely don't know everything, but I know a little.

I've heard the very same thing about kelp, too much is actually counter productive. The main reason why I add kelp into virtually everything is to help cut back on my heavy metals that are part of any rock powders. I like to use them both as a micronutrient rather than relying solely on one or the other to provide. Diversity with organics, I have found, allows a much more forgiving approach. All things in moderation, never too much nor too little. If you forget something you wanted to add or incorporate into a substrate, the other tid-bits will help bridge that gap.

Hemp hearts... it's not as much of a feed for the plant as it is for the fungi. Long after the malted barley has been broken down and all the starchy grains, the hemp hearts continue to feed the myco herd.

I can throw up the part 2 with pics this weekend when I get back home. I'm out of state working for this week. Next week I'm state side. I write down everything down on paper, helps to fine tune things or just be a reference.
And with the soil recipe I can certainly toss up my recipe. I'm a coco guy and formulate it just as a supersoil. I've seen quite a few people have trouble with organic coco, I believe it's due to have too little organic matter. Organic coco is the shit!!! I absolutely love it, and the best part of it is as it decomposes it will help replenish potassium which cuts back on input efforts.

I'll look into the profile thing, I didn't know it was locked to the other members.
 

2cent

Well-Known Member
Thanks brother, that's very kind of you to say about me! I definitely don't know everything, but I know a little.

I've heard the very same thing about kelp, too much is actually counter productive. The main reason why I add kelp into virtually everything is to help cut back on my heavy metals that are part of any rock powders. I like to use them both as a micronutrient rather than relying solely on one or the other to provide. Diversity with organics, I have found, allows a much more forgiving approach. All things in moderation, never too much nor too little. If you forget something you wanted to add or incorporate into a substrate, the other tid-bits will help bridge that gap.

Hemp hearts... it's not as much of a feed for the plant as it is for the fungi. Long after the malted barley has been broken down and all the starchy grains, the hemp hearts continue to feed the myco herd.

I can throw up the part 2 with pics this weekend when I get back home. I'm out of state working for this week. Next week I'm state side. I write down everything down on paper, helps to fine tune things or just be a reference.
And with the soil recipe I can certainly toss up my recipe. I'm a coco guy and formulate it just as a supersoil. I've seen quite a few people have trouble with organic coco, I believe it's due to have too little organic matter. Organic coco is the shit!!! I absolutely love it, and the best part of it is as it decomposes it will help replenish potassium which cuts back on input efforts.

I'll look into the profile thing, I didn't know it was locked to the other members.
Patiently waiting your mix n pix bro , can’t wait to see , I believe the difference with coco was it locks up p or k I can’t remember which but binds ca too -not experienced anything myself when I was flood n drain but then I used new every grow and salts then eww

thinking to get a potting bag soil here which is insane for canna doesn’t need amending but I will amend a slow release feed for the diversity too So I am tempted to see your mix and incorporate it get my soil on track again
 

meangreengrowinmachine

Well-Known Member
I think I am going to ditch the super thrive (1 I don't have any 2 it sounds iffy to me to judgement on the OP) and use expanded EM 1 and make some labs... these grains should be cheap and easy to get so mid as well not just use plain barley like I was planning on... pic of my current build a soil schedule grow in a grass roots bed for attention and to show what build a soil can do!
 

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meangreengrowinmachine

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Thanks brother, that's very kind of you to say about me! I definitely don't know everything, but I know a little.

I've heard the very same thing about kelp, too much is actually counter productive. The main reason why I add kelp into virtually everything is to help cut back on my heavy metals that are part of any rock powders. I like to use them both as a micronutrient rather than relying solely on one or the other to provide. Diversity with organics, I have found, allows a much more forgiving approach. All things in moderation, never too much nor too little. If you forget something you wanted to add or incorporate into a substrate, the other tid-bits will help bridge that gap.

Hemp hearts... it's not as much of a feed for the plant as it is for the fungi. Long after the malted barley has been broken down and all the starchy grains, the hemp hearts continue to feed the myco herd.

I can throw up the part 2 with pics this weekend when I get back home. I'm out of state working for this week. Next week I'm state side. I write down everything down on paper, helps to fine tune things or just be a reference.
And with the soil recipe I can certainly toss up my recipe. I'm a coco guy and formulate it just as a supersoil. I've seen quite a few people have trouble with organic coco, I believe it's due to have too little organic matter. Organic coco is the shit!!! I absolutely love it, and the best part of it is as it decomposes it will help replenish potassium which cuts back on input efforts.

I'll look into the profile thing, I didn't know it was locked to the other members.
Never did get this part two sadly huh?
 

DJ.Appleseed

New Member
Hey what's up roll it up? I wanted to throw up my recipe for a DIY generic version of Build-A-Soil Kashi blend. If your like me and there isn't a single grow shop in a 100 mile radius, this forces us to either pony up the dough OR get creative and self reliant. Fortunately I do have a local beer brewing shop a 1/2 mile from my home, a home depot and a grocery store. This recipe is pretty simple and very cheap.

For the base were going to use Malted barley. I've chosen 6 Row Pilsner malted barley, but any variety can be used such as a light or dark malted grain or marris otter.

In addition to the Malt we have other grains and I like to create diversity with anything I do. I decided to use Bulgur, it's a form of red wheat but without the hulls and its already milled.
Next up is oats, I like to use steel cut, mainly I think it's just the appearance that appeals to me, very similar to the bulgur, it's already milled.
Another one I like to use is flaked Rye berry, this is a very nutrious grain and anyone who has any form of mycological experience is very familiar with, as it is the preferred grain to culture mushroom spawn with. I chose the flaked/rolled version.

Lastly I like to use hemp seed hearts, very similar to flax seed it is high in omega fatty oils. The one thing that all of these choosen have in common is plant based proteins, of which any veteran grower will tell you is a powerhouse for the garden.
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Once you've gathered all the base protein mix it together and dump out onto a sheet of cardboard. To this base mixture I add micronized Rock powder, kelp meal and coconut sugar. I like to use a flour sift to evenly dust the grains. I prefer to add each one independently through the sift but ultimately it's all going to the same place so technically you can mix it all together and apply as one. Once that's done we need to hydrate it. The primary work horse that makes this ammendment work is the Lactic Acid Bacteria or LAB.
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Now, to each their own, but the LAB is essential and cannot be left out. However this is optional, you can add additional goodies such as B Vitamins and hormones, superthrive is what I use. In addition to that I also like to use some of my LAB fermented extracts, such as fresh Aloe and seed spouts from corn or mung bean.
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You want to spray these liquids onto the dry mixture. I like to use a hand held 2000ml pump sprayer but a spray bottle will work just as well. Allow time for the ammendment mixture to absorb the liquid and semi dry. Mix everything up now on the sheet of cardboard, were looking for uniformity of all ingredients. Spread it out again, thin and reapply the liquid, and allow time to absorb and semi dry.
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At this point ( couple hrs) the mixture will be dry to the touch but have a retained moisture content. At no point should the mixture be excessively sticky or tacky, if it is then it's not dried enough. Allow more time to dry.
Once it's dry enough, bag it up into 1 gal zip lock bags. This recipe will fill (2) 1gal bags full. Press out all the air and seal it up. Allow to sit and "ferment" for 1-2 weeks.
View attachment 5291044
To check the progress of the final fermentation and determine if it's done, you can crack the bag and take a whiff. It should smell sweet/tart and have a pleasant yeasty malted aroma. An odor thats unmistakable and you'll know it's certainly fermented. You can use this right away as a top dress or because it is quite a potent mix and only requires 1/3cup per plant you can further dry it out completely, and this helps to arrest microbial activity and preserves potency. I like to dry mine for about 3 days and then back into the bag. Store in a cool/dry place.

3 lbs Malted Barley
1 lb Steel Cut Oats
1 lb Bulgur
1 lb Coconut sugar
.5 lb Flaked Rye Berry
.5 lb Hemp Hearts
.5 lb Kelp Meal
.5 lb Rock Powder (micronized)
1000ml LAB serum
120ml Fermented Aloe Extract
60ml Fermented Seed sprout Extract
30ml Superthrive (B Vitamins)

I hope this is helpful to those who take an OMRI approach to their gardens. If your familiar with BAS kashi blend and like it, you'll love this recipe. The soil biology go absolutely bonkers for it and you can expect extreme and rapid colonization. Once you go plant protiens you'd be hooked on how lush, healthy and vigorous your plants are and all you have to do is give plain pure water. Note this is a complimentary ammendment if used at 1/3cup per plant.

There's a second half to this recipe that involves nutrified biochar and amino acids. My recipe differs from BAS, for those interested I'd be happy to post up my method. Happy Growing yall
Love the recipe. How do you add the Aminos? And at what rate or % do you add charged biochar?
 
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