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I'm starting to think I may apply some EM in mid July. Many of the descriptions of EM talk about the release of nitrogen from non decomposed materials. I am hesitant to use it as the plants will need quite opposite side of the spectrum in nutrient. I did work some P and K into the soil in the planning stage. It should be available when flower comes around. I opted for langbeinite 0-0-22 which will be added at the end of July as a top dress. I also decided to use liquid seaweed and earth juice bloom to be added around flower. Has anyone had experience with EM and flower nutrient? Is it effective for flower?

Thanks!

I have never heard of EM what does it stand for?

DankTankerous said:

I have never heard of EM what does it stand for?

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Effective microbes. Or lactobacillus. Also yeast..

The plants are showing some explosive growth and i am back to toping about every other day. The flies have all but disappeared but, i am prepared if they come back. This next couple weeks is going to really stretch them out and I wouldn't be surprised if they made it to 6 feet before the season is over. The need for water is going to increase, I will try to keep feedings and waterings to the morning.

Here is a shot from today. Temps are leveling off high 90's. I have a AACT brewing for Thursday morning watering and feeding. I'm sure they can take another large feeding. I'm going to give them Earth juice grow and two other fish based products. I was also thinking of giving them some liquid kelp along with aloe and coconut water. The soil has been drying out faster. I'm sure this will hold them over until next week. I have been using drippers as of yet and i am not sure the whole pot is getting drenched. I am going to soak the pots down this time before the feeding. I would say a solid 6 inches have been grown on some plants in the last 6 days.

I cut and fitted the netting last night. The netting is going to make it a bit more difficult to trim but they are going to need some support with the wind gusts in the area.

This morning i trimmed under the canopy and removed any yellowing old leaves. I also cut any straggling uprights that are not going to make it to the top and rearranged some uprights tot he center. The plants are starting to take a real bushy tree look. The stems are getting thicker and the main stumps are really wooding up nice. The DE is holding of the flies. I see a moth or two fly by and they seem to avoid the yard. The back yard has turned into a spider paradise with webs all around everything. The spiders are; yellow or brown and black, medium sized. I will take a picture.

Wow wish I could grow outside awesome bro really Nice

Nice plants. Those are shaping up to be beastly shrubs.

Nice job buddy

Thanks! I messed with the netting a bit. Topped a few uprights.

It the netting seems to be settling nicely. I have a whole bunch left over. It was fairly easy to cut with pocket knife. It pulled out in a line and i unwrapped it. Then i pulled out a bit bunched up in a line and cut about a four 4ft section of that. I was a bit small so i put it on the smaller plant. I then cut a bit longer pieces about 6 ft and used this on the rest of the plants. I will need to do this at least one more time on a month or so. Probably 12 ft pieces.

I mixed up some nutrient in the AACT this morning. About a cup of tridents pride and a cup of earth juice grow, and some earth worm casting juice. I will let this sit until tonight and when i feed, I will mix in a cup of aloe and a can of coconut water and soak the pots down.

One plant is an especially aggressive stretcher. I am thinking at the end of next week cutting back most of the new growth from this week. The other plants are bushing out but this one just wants to be 8ft tall. I have had tall plants. They make for great yields but the amount of work trying to keep them upright becomes exhausting, they also stick out like a set of nuts on a forehead. I have seen some fairly aggressive pruning around this site and think that may be a good solution for this sativa dominate pheno. I also have to dust the plants with some DE. I have been trying to limit its use to every coupe days.

A shot from today, I would say almost all of the plants put on a good 6 inches since Wednesday. It's too hot today to work in the sun. I will have to take some soil moisture tests to see where we are for the next feeding. I will have to take close lok at all the new growth to see if any deficiencies want to show. Form here out they will be getting heavy and heavier doses of nutrient and AACT. I am still toying with the idea of EM but, i have a lot of plans in the mix right now.

I took some soil samples. The soil will need some water by the end of the week, before the hundred plus temps in the upcoming forecast. I have been pretty good about timing the watering and feedings with the increasing temps. I'm convinced that MJ grows best when these kind of watering and feeding considerations are followed. I have observed the plants will tell you when it is time. They are growing through the netting nicely. I did some topping and didn't notice any deficiencies on new foliage. Although most of the plants are getting darker green. I am not sure if they can take anymore nitrogen. I have a 5-1-1 fish liquid i have used in the past with great success but, this year's soil had some very heavy amending in the nitrogen department.

The flies are all but gone but, the spider population has sky rocketed. The mosquito population has also claimed steadily.

And fire season is ON! There is some heavy smoke in the area because of the fires. Its a long way from us, in the hills, so we are just breathing heavy.The sun is looking red in the sky in the afternoon. We have some cousins in Lake county but they seem ok for now.

Hello Dmannn's, very well carried everything very healthy. There is an abundant harvest, I stay here to see how you delight with your flowers haha ...
Congratulations and thanks for moving on to my thread ...

Sorry my english

ce1esv said:

Hello Dmannn's, very well carried everything very healthy. There is an abundant harvest, I stay here to see how you delight with your flowers haha ...
Congratulations and thanks for moving on to my thread ...

Sorry my english

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It's all good my friend.

A few more shots.

I took some soil samples and looked at some fly traps. I did some topping and looked at some new growth. Things seems to be steaming right ahead. I think i will give them some plain water this time around. The soil is a bit on the "moist" side. The fly traps have switched from predominantly white flies; to house flies, mosquitos and, smaller spiders. There seems to be a new population of gnats. I don't think they are a detriment as the spiders are collecting them, but i am did apply some DE directly to the plants yesterday morning.

Around the yard are an assortment of spider webs. Making most areas impassable without disturbing them. I cut the roses back and knocked the spiderwebs down around the hoop house structure. I am leaving up most of the other webs as i don't frequent those parts of the yard. I may try to collect and redistributed some spiders around the yard. The webs are collecting mostly of flying insects, i am hoping this works out to my advantage. I will probably see an increase the lizard population shortly. Then rat and mice. There are plenty of neighborhood cats and every house on the block has a rodent abatement program. Although i will set up a trap bucket for them as temps continue to rise. We have a house cat, emphasis on "house."The neighbor hood we are in will also be areal spraying misquotes for west nile virus. It is quite a diverse area with some diverse plant and animal life in abundance.

As the plants grow in size so does the room needed for processing. Before grows were done straight out in the open. As soon as any cold rains came it was a mad dash to get them blown free of residual moisture. If the forecast looked over cast and cold the day after, we really had no choice but to call it off and pull everything. This normally took a 3000sq ft to hang fresh cut buds. Since i have a hoop house access to power. I feel more confident in keeping the cover on towards the end and leaving the area fans running 24/7, picking each branch as it ripens. This will help me cut down on space needed for drying greatly as i do not expect each plant to come to full maturity all in the same week. We shall see.

I was also reading up on different "curing methods." There was a great podcast link in the drying and curing section. I have a dedicated processing room this year. With HVAC! The room and HVAC system will be professionally cleaned before it's use. I was also to look into turkey bags for curing after hanging. I do have a big stock of 1 gallon gars. They will have to be cleaned and disinfected before their use. I also have a good amount of shelving as well.

I have been also working on starting my new business. I already got the business cards and some merchandise ordered. It's motocross related, as I'm a long time rider and journeymen mechanic. There are an enormous amount of race tracks in the area. I will probably post some stuff after i get some sort of online store set up. And my business license with the name. I was looking into websites but, that may be a ways off as the domain name I wanted is $10,000! But, things can always change. Negotiations and auctions of that sort of stuff are always happening.

I hope you all are enjoying my grow as much as I'm enjoying ya'lls! LETS SEE SOME BIG PLANTS LOL!

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!

Dmannn said:

I watered and fed them yesterday. Here are a few pictures from today. They are starting to stretch out. I hit them with another shot of Diatomaceous earth. They seem to be recovering well. It seem to be heading off these bugs as the heat goes up. It was about 99 yesterday and the flies were trying to escape it. I topped a couple heads. I will probably top a few more later today after i remove the last of the damaged foliage. I bought some "bird netting" i am planning on cutting it down to 5x5 and then tossing it over the top. I will later secure it with some bamboo sticks. As the plant grows i will add another larger piece. I don't plan on using more than 2 a plant.
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It might not be a bad idea if temps are getting that high to put a sun shade over the plants, this can help drop the temps on the plant a lot .

Dmannn said:

Here is a shot from today. Temps are leveling off high 90's. I have a AACT brewing for Thursday morning watering and feeding. I'm sure they can take another large feeding. I'm going to give them Earth juice grow and two other fish based products. I was also thinking of giving them some liquid kelp along with aloe and coconut water. The soil has been drying out faster. I'm sure this will hold them over until next week. I have been using drippers as of yet and i am not sure the whole pot is getting drenched. I am going to soak the pots down this time before the feeding. I would say a solid 6 inches have been grown on some plants in the last 6 days. View attachment 4156397

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By adding mulch to the top of the plant container you can greatly decrease the amount of evaporation of the water in the soil ,
(Some preffer the evaporation)

max420thc said:

It might not be a bad idea if temps are getting that high to put a sun shade over the plants, this can help drop the temps on the plant a lot .

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I do have a black mesh tarp (harbor freight) that i could use as a shade. To tell you truth, I think the plants enjoy the heat. With 100 gallon pots and monitoring the soil moisture (meter). I haven't had any heat stress issues with my plants now or in the past. with exception of late transplants. I generally transplant late april and the temps are usually 70-80'sF

I have found that as long as my root zone stays cool( my smart pots are on the ground in former lawn), the more water/dry events that happens in a set amount of time the faster the plants grow. I have found that keeping the soil moist all the time does not increase vigor of the plants at any time, except seedling stage. Although I do heat stress my seedlings by not watering for about a week after the initial water when the seeds are planted. Whatever seeds pop up are keeper phenos.

Dmannn said:

I'm starting to think I may apply some EM in mid July. Many of the descriptions of EM talk about the release of nitrogen from non decomposed materials. I am hesitant to use it as the plants will need quite opposite side of the spectrum in nutrient. I did work some P and K into the soil in the planning stage. It should be available when flower comes around. I opted for langbeinite 0-0-22 which will be added at the end of July as a top dress. I also decided to use liquid seaweed and earth juice bloom to be added around flower. Has anyone had experience with EM and flower nutrient? Is it effective for flower?

Thanks!

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Basically your beneficial bacteria colony,
This bacteria colony should be established as soon as possible in the soil , then the bacteria colony should be fed with carbs to maintain the colony ,
The feeding schedule is different for outdoor plants then indoor as the sun makes the plant uptake nutrients differently then bulbs .
Most growers (outdoor ) in mendacino and humbolt county areas pump the plant heavy with N ( what I mean by heavy is a N rating or around 10, through the first parts of spring and summer)
They will run a PPM of around 500 ,
When they get to bloom season's( the first of August to the end of September to the middle of October , they cut the N back to almost nothing and push P and K on them,
Never hitting them strong , no more then 800 ppm.
Up untill the first of August you are in the vefatative phase,
The first two weeks of August are the transition phase , after that it is development up till two weeks before finish ,is the finishing stage