Do I need to flush?

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burninjay

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thebeerstalkin said:
http://www.cannacare.org/bulletin/showthread.php?p=27323
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This is one post on one forum by one person. Maybe he invented botany(judging from his posts over there I doubt it), i dunno, but Ionmagic there is the only person I can find referring to cannabis as an annual, deciduous plant. In fact, he's the only person I can find calling ANY plant annual and deciduous. Aren't you one who advised not to just trust random forum hearsay? These are the theories of somebody who finished their first grow in November and you're going to quote that to somebody else as truth?

Denying an annual plant the winter that ends it's life cycle does not make it deciduous. And that is exactly the logic offered in your link that supports calling it deciduous and annual at the same time.
 
CRYSTAL ICEMAN

CRYSTAL ICEMAN

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There should be some way to filter out all the BS post from people like beer douche so others can get the info without waisting all their grow time on foolish shit??!! Can any of you tell me how to do this??
 
mared juwan

mared juwan

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Cow Tea said:
The only way to resolve this is to flower some clones in organic soil w/ organic nutes and do a side by side comparison. Flush half and sample flushed and non flushed smoke during different stages of the cure. Perhaps I'll try it when I get my GHS Strawberry Haze mother set up. A very flavorful strain like that would be good for this type of comparison right? So shit, come back to me in a few grows and I might have an answer to this "organic flushing dilemma".
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Yes, I have actually done this, more than a few times. The plants that weren't flushed to death were healthier and the bud tasted BETTER, not worse. I wouldn't be giving any advice in this thread if I hadn't already done this and know for sure what the deal is. Check my profile and my other posts. I grow a lot and I think I do a pretty good job at it. I'm not talking out my ass like another poster in this thread;-) Why don't we all check out his profile and other posts and have a good laugh. All it takes is a little research to see who is full of shit here.

Just think about it. The nutrients you use do not feed the buds, they feed the leaves. The leaves turn the nutes and light they receive into buds. So if you have a bunch of yellow leaves at the end they are doing nothing for you. Photosynthesis cannot occur when the leaf is yellow and no chlorophyll is present. Might as well cut them off. The goal is maintain as many healthy leaves as possible until the very end. Try it out, you'll see.
 
Cow Tea

Cow Tea

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mared juwan said:
Yes, I have actually done this, more than a few times.
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Do you have any examples of this is one of your threads? I'll check the threads out, but it'll take a minute. You've got a lot of stuff for me to read.


BTW - I originally thought I would be harvesting this weekend or next, but she has been going through this crazy growth spurt, getting pretty frosty, and shooting out new white hairs all over the place. I think she may have 2-3 more weeks. So it's gonna be a bit before the smoke report.
 
Cow Tea

Cow Tea

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Here's some pics. Some of the new growth is really weird looking, like basil leaves.

*pics 1 and 3 are the same bud w/ basil lookin growth
 

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She was talkin shit, so I cut her.

She turned a little purple on some of the top nuggets. I've been testing her out, quick drying some small nuggets. Of coarse it tastes like I'm smoking grass, but I'm not impressed with the high at all. It's like a mids-ish high, but I didn't really expect too much since I had to move her a few time, she started most of her flowering in 20% humidity, got intake wind burn, and subjected to far too much experimentation. I'll get maybe a little over an ounce idk.

*oh and her mother was a tramp brick swagg, but I don't regret her. I've learned a lot from her.
 

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thebeerstalkin

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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/deciduous+plant. theres another link asshole, it took no time to find and it can prove something unlike anything you have said. And mared juawn your profile is weak and doesn't impress me. your op is a spidermites shit compared to what i have. The fact remains, you can go off and try to argue on stupid little words but the fact remains that you want to get your leaves yellowing before harvest. Oh, and no this isn't a tomatoe plant (slikwill), you don't eat it. One of the only other plants that is grown for smoke is tabbaco ( of course there are others so don't strart another stupid wana-be logic arguing point). Have any of you grown tabbaco? Any good tabbaco grower will also tell you that you want yellow.
 
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burninjay

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thebeerstalkin said:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/deciduous+plant. theres another link asshole, it took no time to find and it can prove something unlike anything you have said.
You come back after 12 days of peace to call people names and link the definition of a deciduous plant. The same definition that I provided earlier. This link does nothing other than agree with me and every other poster in this thread who is not you. The only supportive information you provide is "every good grower knows", a link to some rambling from a first harvest noob grower, and a link from a free online dictionary. Great research there! :clap:

I get the fact that you like your leaves yellow. I think everybody who you have called names on this thread gets that. Now you can be sure that we all read your 'yellow leaves' speech again, so how about another 12 days of peace.
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Cow Tea

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Yeah I don't see any reason for us to argue on this thread anymore. Shit talking isn't gonna help much either. I've gone ahead and cut her. And she had all green and sone purple leaves, but no yellow. I'm in the process of drying, so if there is another post in 12 days, hopefully it will be to report that the taste is good. If it's not then it's not.
 
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burninjay

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Well, post the report either way. Hopefully it performs a bit better properly dried. Bagseed is what it is, you beat the odds already considering it didn't try to herm.
 
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flonomendo

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Hey, I'm not trying to get flamed or start any thing (or thread hi-jack), I am just looking for experienced opinions on this:
I use age old organics for veg and bloom, I still think that flushing would be a good idea because I have not been using organic fertilzer the entire grow. I was planning on flushing (tomorrow) since most all the trichs are milky. Could I continue using the organic bloom ferts after the flush, or even feed them right after the flush?

thanks :)
 
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SlikWiLL13

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flonomendo said:
Hey, I'm not trying to get flamed or start any thing (or thread hi-jack), I am just looking for experienced opinions on this:
I use age old organics for veg and bloom, I still think that flushing would be a good idea because I have not been using organic fertilzer the entire grow. I was planning on flushing (tomorrow) since most all the trichs are milky. Could I continue using the organic bloom ferts after the flush, or even feed them right after the flush?

thanks :)
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as you have probably read, i dont believe in flushing. but if i did believe in flushing then what you propose defeats the purpose of flushing, which is to rid the medium of nutes and make the smoke*snicker of disbelief*smoother.
 
Cow Tea

Cow Tea

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So I've been smoking on my harvest since the point at which it could be smoked. For the first couple weeks I was starting to become certain that I should have flushed the plant, but now that I'm approaching the last 14 grams of the harvest, the smoke tastes really good. Better than most weed I can buy at a reasonable price (beasters). I still think that if I used Tiger Bloom throughout more of the grow, I should have at least given it a couple waterings where some water runs from the bottom of the pot. but I would not yellow the leaves unless the plant really wanted to. I had some mixed pack Low Lifes that all grew different, and even flowered drastically different. One got a decent amount of purple while another yellowed most of it's leaves near the end... and they were in the same 3 gallon pot.

Yeah, so sorry I never really found conclusive results and never really took sides on the flushing issue. One thing for sure though is that if I use all organics, I will not flush my soil.
 
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