Do not smoke marijuana in excess, It can cause cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome

actually when you think about it your way....it does make sense

I will keep looking into this and find out exactly who is backing these study's. Im sure its something like centers for a drug free america or something.

I don't need a study to tell me how I feel in the morning after I smoke a lot of weed. This explains my symptoms exactly, although mine are relatively mild and dissipate quickly.

If I have a couple of days where I feel crummy, I skip the bowl and I'm right as rain.

No study told me that, no high falutin' doctor from the mayonnaise clinic... just my own gut.

Eat, drink, sleep, work, play, fuck- and smoke- with a balance of passion and moderation. 'Tis the key to happiness!

how about fishing?

ttystikk said:

I don't need a study to tell me how I feel in the morning after I smoke a lot of weed. This explains my symptoms exactly, although mine are relatively mild and dissipate quickly.

If I have a couple of days where I feel crummy, I skip the bowl and I'm right as rain.

No study told me that, no high falutin' doctor from the mayonnaise clinic... just my own gut.

Eat, drink, sleep, work, play, fuck- and smoke- with a balance of passion and moderation. 'Tis the key to happiness!

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Kidney stones will make you throw up and feel like shit. maybe your passing small stones Does It kind of hit you in waves?

Dr.Pecker said:

Kidney stones will make you throw up and feel like shit. maybe your passing small stones Does It kind of hit you in waves?

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This isn't kidney stones, I have relatives- by marriage only- who have them and this isn't that, not by a long ways.

It's mild for me and goes away with a little food and fluids. It doesn't even manifest itself unless I've been partying hard and smoking a lot.

cannabis causes that.

Dr.Pecker said:

I will keep looking into this and find out exactly who is backing these study's. Im sure its something like centers for a drug free america or something.

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i smoke alot, i had similar probs. but then i realize i was just coming down from a blunt burn. (dosent happen very often.) soo i smoked a bowl and that weird lucid feeling was stomped out. big badaboom!

h2alo1 said:

I have been plagued by gi problems for the past couple years. I went to the er at least 5 times. The doctors ran every test in the book, and couldn't find anything wrong with me. It turns out i went to the er yesterday with the same problem. They ran every test, and couldn't find anything. The doctor then came in and asked me if i smoked marijuana. I told the doctor i smoke marijuana frequently. The doctor told me that in the states where marijuana is legalized for medical use, more people are getting diagnosed with cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, which is what i was diagnosed with. The symptoms are generally being sick in the morning such as throwing up and abdominal pain. The symptoms usually come in cycles. The theory is that chronic, heavy smokers build up a toxic level of cannabinoids. Has anyone heard of this?

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I've heard of it once before. Details were vague. Not sure if it's a real thing or not. Swallowing smoke of any kind can irritate the stomach.

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. On that note with the rise of cannabis legalization doctors are grasping at straws to try do keep it illegal because big pharma is in their back pocket. drs aren't in the business to cure they are in the business to treat symptoms. Think about this if you were a doctor would you want patients treating themselves?This is nothing more than a scare campaign to keep voters on the fence.

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You bring up an important point. Doctor's cannot make money from healthy people. The medical system in this country is a joke. At the end of the day, I respect ethical doctors, however; when one looks at the grand scheme of things, and how the pharmaceutical industry has pumped their poison on the masses for the sake of profit, you start to wake up.

Can you imagine a marijuana commercial that names half of the side effects that most pharmaceutical drugs have:

1. Drainage, crusting, or oozing of your eyes or eyelids
2. Swollen, black, or "hairy" tongue
3. Changes in the shape or location of body fat
4. Decrease in testicle size
5. Sores or swelling in your rectal or genital area

You don't have to be a doctor to have common sense!

I believe the article in question is from the temple medical university in texas. Texas in not a medical state and the way our nice government works a doctor can have his/her medical licence pulled if they support a schedule 1 narcotic. According to the dea cannabis has no medicinal value even though the federal government has made and patented medicine derived from cannabis back in 2003. I saved both files if you want to see them.

Marinol has been around for decades sativex is annother example.

Dr.Pecker said:

I believe the article in question is from the temple medical university in texas. Texas in not a medical state and the way our nice government works a doctor can have his/her medical licence pulled if they support a schedule 1 narcotic. According to the dea cannabis has no medicinal value even though the federal government has made and patented medicine derived from cannabis back in 2003. I saved both files if you want to see them.

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I would actually....if you have the file regarding the patent, that would be most useful as evidence.

Dat Dank said:

I would actually....if you have the file regarding the patent, that would be most useful as evidence.

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I believe its called a landmark case If anyone uses it they should get an attorney. I dont think it would be a problem getting a lawyer because the case would make them famous.

http://www.google.com/patents/US6630507 this is the patent.

Dea drug schedule list
Drug Schedules

Drugs, substances, and certain chemicals used to make drugs are classified into five (5) distinct categories or schedules depending upon the drug’s acceptable medical use and the drug’s abuse or dependency potential. The abuse rate is a determinate factor in the scheduling of the drug; for example, Schedule I drugs are considered the most dangerous class of drugs with a high potential for abuse and potentially severe psychological and/or physical dependence. As the drug schedule changes-- Schedule II, Schedule III, etc., so does the abuse potential-- Schedule V drugs represents the least potential for abuse. A Listing of drugs and their schedule are located at Controlled Substance Act (CSA) Scheduling or CSA Scheduling by Alphabetical Order. These lists describes the basic or parent chemical and do not necessarily describe the salts, isomers and salts of isomers, esters, ethers and derivatives which may also be classified as controlled substances. These lists are intended as general references and are not comprehensive listings of all controlled substances.

Please note that a substance need not be listed as a controlled substance to be treated as a Schedule I substance for criminal prosecution. A controlled substance analogue is a substance which is intended for human consumption and is structurally or pharmacologically substantially similar to or is represented as being similar to a Schedule I or Schedule II substance and is not an approved medication in the United States. (See 21 U.S.C. §802(32)(A) for the definition of a controlled substance analogue and 21 U.S.C. §813 for the schedule.)
Schedule I

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

Schedule II

Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, less abuse potential than Schedule I drugs, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous. Some examples of Schedule II drugs are:

cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and Ritalin

Schedule III

Schedule III drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Schedule III drugs abuse potential is less than Schedule I and Schedule II drugs but more than Schedule IV. Some examples of Schedule III drugs are:

Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), Products containing less than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine), ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosterone

Schedule IV

Schedule IV drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a low potential for abuse and low risk of dependence. Some examples of Schedule IV drugs are:

Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin, Ambien

Schedule V

Schedule V drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with lower potential for abuse than Schedule IV and consist of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Schedule V drugs are generally used for antidiarrheal, antitussive, and analgesic purposes. Some examples of Schedule V drugs are:

cough preparations with less than 200 milligrams of codeine or per 100 milliliters (Robitussin AC), Lomotil, Motofen, Lyrica, Parepectolin

20 years of smoken weed and this thread is pretty damn funny been sick off weed cause i smoked to much in one innings lol not cannabinoid hyperemmsis syndrome have u been watching aca ?? were one week they says eggs are bad 4 u next week breaking news eggs are now good for u

Sorry to all who smoke that weed it sounds like your friend folliar feeds his plants
and you're smoking fertilizer if this is the case ask him to stop for every bodies sake.
He should only feed that way in veg. not flower

The desire to take hot showers also occurs with biliary dyskinesia, which they fail to note if they tested for. Since cannabis increases biliary motility it could trigger symptoms in some people. But that would make it a diagnostic tool, not a danger.

I've had gi problems since childhood, well before I started smoking weed, and its never been diagnosed. One thing that has seemed to help is kombucha. It helps to balance the pH of the body and build up healthy bacteria. It tastes strong, but is more drinkable if you add juice to it. It can be made at home(it does have to ferment tho) or bought at a health food store

You are a douche....

You are just a selfish little baby that is having a panic induced tantrum because you think people trying to find answers to a problem they themselves are having may effect you personally. Get your head out of your ass. THE MAN is not trying to get you down dude. Your bullshit responses are the crap we legitimate posters have to sort through to read responses that actually mean something. Great, you can type and have read a book and can actually use your ability to question people, but it is misplaced. Use your powers for good.

Do you think for a second that I wouldn't rather be smoking a huge bong right now instead of answering your dumb-ass? How long have you been a dumb-ass? Who told you you were a dumb-ass first, your mom or dad? Did you ever join a support group for extreme-dumb-asses? Jesus.....

Do us all a favor and piss off....

Go to a doctor because you are suffering and not get any answers; then try to find help in a forum like this, then deal with an ass like yourself....it doesn't help. AND WHY???? Because you need to be heard? Because you are a spoiled stupid ass that has never had the misfortune of actually having any hardships in your life. Why the hell are you even on this thread....to ostracize people trying to find out if these doctors are actually talking about something real or made up. This place is for support and you are completely missing the point.

The fact that you will not be able to resist trying to "sting" me with some douche-bag response will only be proof that you are a complete tool.

cvssufferer said:

WOW very generalised symptoms to get a definite diagnosis!

Would you like to share any other symptoms or is it just the ones you have read on the poor abstracts that some doctors have written. The abstracts are theories btw, nothing more. No study, just one doctor looking through records and making assumptions. Someone told me I shouldnt assume....it makes and arse out of you and me.

Here is another thread on this forums about cannabis hyperemesis. https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/608100-marijuana-morning-sickness-cannabinoid-hyperemesis.html I have done ALOT of research on it and I have found NO evidence that the condition exists. Search the term and you will see I have posted on the 10 threads on the internet that this discussion has cropped up. Funnily enough all started with stories as vague as yours. I mean "plagued by GI problems" to me indicates you would have alot more wrong with you than "generally being sick in the morning such as throwing up and abdominal pain"

I am again appalled that people are repeating this BS cannabis hyperemesis. You are stating hardly any symptoms, I mean read the post again people, how generalised is it. A doctor comes in and tells you its marijuana! Give me a break. Please name your GI who has done this........they are getting their information from the internet.....not a thing I would like my own doctor doing tbh.

Anyway, I have spoken enough on the other thread and the others ones on the internet to go through it all again. Funny, all of you original posters of these threads should get together for a chat. You hang around long enough to tell your vague story and then disappear never to be seen again. There is about 8-10 of you in the whole of the internet who post that exact same story.....very generalised symptoms of a proposed illness. Why so generalised? You have had every test, what tests? Who paid for it? Why did it take your doctor 2 years to come up with this diagnosis? Like I said, I have found about 8-10 other people like you, why dont you post on them threads instead of repeating a copy and paste text to get attention? Sorry everyone else reading this but its getting really annoying.....if these people have cannabis hyperemesis, why dont they post more details? aaarrrghhhghghg lol

If you have been given the diagnosis, before starting a thread you MUST have searched in google and found other people who have posted the same generalisation that you have of a theorised illness. Why have you not posted on those threads aswell? Why have you not tried to contact other people who have posted their own story? For example if I had crohns disease I personally wouldnt start a thread on here saying "anyone else have crohns disease"......I would head to another forum of people already posting about crohns...I figure that would be a better place to share information. Unless ofcourse I had a hidden motive

Rant over

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