Do We Dare Discuss 911 With Poll

canuckgrow

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Fuck me running this is overload for me right now guys.....Some real good posts on both sides and it has been umm fairly civil..........good stuff
 

fdd2blk

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What??????
all i have asked is 1 question and you can't seem to get a grasp on it. 1 question asked repeatedly now and you got nothing.

all you seem to know how to do is argue. open your mind and try to THINK for a minute.


"what really happened?"



have you figured out the question yet, i'm still waiting for your answer .........
 

redivider

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Each floor collapsed one after the other complete failure which shows that it was the weight of the upper portion of the building that caused it with successive failures of each floor. It kind of looks like a controlled demolition, but obviously is not.

[video=youtube;m3YQ3RmvAm4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YQ3RmvAm4[/video]

I don't hear anything exploding.....
i don't hear anything either, i see something exploding.

0:06. you can see a window being blown out with explosive force.

nobody can claim otherwise.
 

NoDrama

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all i have asked is 1 question and you can't seem to get a grasp on it. 1 question asked repeatedly now and you got nothing.

all you seem to know how to do is argue. open your mind and try to THINK for a minute.


"what really happened?"



have you figured out the question yet, i'm still waiting for your answer .........
I thought I was clear on this. I DON"T KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? DO YOU?
 

fdd2blk

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I thought I was clear on this. I DON"T KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? DO YOU?
yet you know exactly what DIDN'T happen?

with all the evidence given you can't come up with some "theory"? nothing at all? not even a "possibility? did you really suggest a death ray?

i am asking for something to believe in other then the official story. can ANYONE help me?
 

fdd2blk

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Death ray? They had a prototype by 1993. neutral particle beam weapon. Part of the US Strategic Defense Initiative ( Star Wars program )


http://physicsworldarchive.iop.org/index.cfm?action=summary&doc=2%2F1%2Fphwv2i1a6%40pwa-xml&qt=

Don't say it isn't possible.

The reason you want answers FDD is becasue you know that the story being presented as the truth is a bunch of BS, you feel it don't you?
does the reason even matter? let's just start with something i can hold onto. "inside job" doesn't really give me much. i need some "substance".

so ... "what happened"? the proof is in the evidence.
 

incognegro999

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yet you know exactly what DIDN'T happen?

with all the evidence given you can't come up with some "theory"? nothing at all? not even a "possibility? did you really suggest a death ray?

i am asking for something to believe in other then the official story. can ANYONE help me?
If I thought you were actually asking for help and not being glib I might think about it. Lets change the subject. Nuclear explosions. For example if a nuclear bomb was to detonate there is a way to tell exactly when and where that nuclear material came from. by studying the radiation levels etc etc they could look in a book and say ok this came from this plant at this time.
 

incognegro999

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Would you believe that the U.S government has nuclear weapons in its inventory that are designed to exactly replicate other super powers atomic weapons? so for instance we have a way to detonate a bomb in saudi arabia that to the experts would look exactly like an Isreali Jericho missile
 

NoDrama

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I don't have any evidence, I only have other sources evidence. Pictures can only do so much, youtubes can only do so much. What if the explosives theory was just a theory that was used as a coverup of the real cause? What if it was an energy beam? a "Death Ray" as you put it? "The Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-dispersive Energy through the Natural Media". may have answers. Nikola Tesla said he could create a weapon of such formidable power even back in 1930. The press dubbed it a "Peace Ray". What if?
 

Balzac89

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I don't have any evidence, I only have other sources evidence. Pictures can only do so much, youtubes can only do so much. What if the explosives theory was just a theory that was used as a coverup of the real cause? What if it was an energy beam? a "Death Ray" as you put it? "The Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-dispersive Energy through the Natural Media". may have answers. Nikola Tesla said he could create a weapon of such formidable power even back in 1930. The press dubbed it a "Peace Ray". What if?
What if you just woke up one day and for once saw the world for what it is.
 

fdd2blk

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I don't have any evidence, I only have other sources evidence. Pictures can only do so much, youtubes can only do so much. What if the explosives theory was just a theory that was used as a coverup of the real cause? What if it was an energy beam? a "Death Ray" as you put it? "The Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-dispersive Energy through the Natural Media". may have answers. Nikola Tesla said he could create a weapon of such formidable power even back in 1930. The press dubbed it a "Peace Ray". What if?
my bad then.

i just figured with all the evidence to claim "it's an inside job", there would be enough to lead to some type of scenario.

guess i'll just go with "death ray".
 

NoDrama

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AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!


[video=youtube;tmV8wlBSuCY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmV8wlBSuCY&feature=fvwrel[/video]
 

doc111

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Funny enough none of your links shows any steel skyscrapers collapsing in a pancake fashion except on 9/11. The first link shows wooden framed structures collapsing. You aren't trying to say that wood reacts to fire the same way Steel does are you? Any moron could tell you that wooden structures do not resist fire much if at all, did you also know that at one time in our history people actually burned wood for heat? Amazing, but I bet you never saw anyone burning steel for heat, know why? Steel doesn't burn.Wood does.


Might want to edit out that first link since all it does is prove you to be ignorant. BTW the Pancacke theory is only that, a theory. A Hypothesis presented by others to explain the miracle of building deconstruction and pulverization.

Lets not forget that WTC #2 only burned for 45 minutes before it deconstructed itself, which is barely enough time to get the metal warm. I have seen wooden structures take hours to collapse from fire. Somehow your being told to believe that steel can get soft and fail after just a small amount of time, and not just some steel, 110 floors worth.

Oh and Doc, im glad you finally explained to us that the building collapse classes you took have nothing to do with skyscrapers but have to do with fighting fires in conventional wood framed buildings. I don't know if you realized it, but giant steel skyscrapers don't ever fall, none ever have. So they don't give classes on skyscraper collapses, because there haven't ever been any.
lol!!!!!!!!!! I didn't explain shit! We are trained to handle collapses in a variety of structures and a variety of construction types, up to and including steel frame skyscrapers. Skyscrapers present unique challenges that are not present in normal highrises or single story structures. Go on and admit it! You didn't read the whole article did you?:mrgreen: I posted the first link to give you an IDEA of the types of building collapses and how they are viewed from the fire service perspective, which is the only one that matters since we are the only ones extensively trained to deal with the aftermath of a building collapse. And let me just say that was an incredibly BRIEF synopsis of the ONE class I took. Building collapse technician class is NO JOKE my friend! But I digress. Skycrapers don't fall under NORMAL fire conditions. This was NOT NORMAL fire conditions. The forces, although brief, which the buildings were exposed to were massive! 767 is a very large plane, I don't have to explain this to you. Skyscrapers are very tough, and they have throughout their brief history withstood all kinds of insults. They are not indestructable and these buildings actually withstood the initial impacts remarkably well. We will obviously never really know what happened, and as long as people are crying for a new investigation, which is completely impossible, these "theories" will go unproven. The progressive pancake collapse theory is a plausible one. More plausible, IMO, than any of the controlled demo, false flag, nano-thermite, remote control planes, "theories". Where are the hordes of building engineers and demolition technicians and engineers and pissed off firemen screaming for blood? Sure, there are a few of the previously mentioned who have offered their professional opinion that supports the truthers, but by and large, most of the experts who have examined this tragedy agree that it is what it appears to be; a terrorist attack.;-)
 
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