Lightgreen2k
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Dont be mad at the seeds you have sir. but continue on..
I dont talk shit either, just address stuff that comes up, if you feel some type of way that'@ your business
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Do we need more information on seed packs?
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Dont be mad at the seeds you have sir. but continue on..
I dont talk shit either, just address stuff that comes up, if you feel some type of way that'@ your business
Lightgreen2k
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Since you want to find your way into this,
where does it say how to grow the plant or what's its needs?
Are you fast?
Last time I checked
Every single one of the breeders I mentioned gives basic information.
Bohdi
Topdawg
Csi
Exotic
Alien
MeanGene
Archive
But whomever you are growing, who doesnt say what the genetics are? Perhaps the seedbank you purchase from..
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Tangerine_
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Oh I dunno...under "Growing Notes".
And I'm fast enough not to need to edit my posts over and over
Bakersfield
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I've never tried to Dm JJ, but he might answer you if you ask him for more info.
I've spoke with plenty of breeders 1 on 1 through Instagram and most were extremely helpful and happy to chew the fat about their strains. I only ask about genetics, and known yields and potency.
Honestly, those breeders that ignored my Dm's will never see a nickel of my time and money. There's too many good dude breeders out there like Gu, Nspecta, and Karma G to be treated like a #.
morgwar
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Here's your morning glory,( I love morning glories very nice)
Here's top dawg
Here's karma
But you know who puts em to shame
Jordan of the isles! Weak but dependable
No shade from me man just telling it like it is.
The industry Will change, when it becomes legal, we've got the FDA and the dept of ag, etc etc
One point is why take the shock of regulation when you can assimilate at you're own pace.
The stuff on you're veggie packs is mandatory.
Lightgreen2k
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Do you own those packs? If so the seedbank you purchased from do they not have it listed..
I could post my packs, but not necessary..
Lightgreen2k
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It tells you how to secure it. It does not tell you what to feed it, or as one person wanting to know if it was a calmag whore.
were do any of those seeds above say all that. Planting seeds are basic.
morgwar
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Bakersfield
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Karma genetics has more info out about his crosses than any I can think of, between his old ass web site, instagram and the breeder forums over on Ic. He is all about transparency and zero hype. He will tell you that his certain strain should take between 55 and 80 days, because he knows them genes can get wildly different combinations and expressions. When I read the Jordan of the Islands pack descriptions I'm left wondering if it's all bullshit like Barney's gear. They're claiming the world from every filial 1 hybrid.
Another consideration is legality of selling seeds interstate and the banks like to keep information to a minimum on their site, while owners like Toby over at Oregon Elite Seeds, are very knowledgeable about the products he sales and will drop breeders that will not share their genetic sources, but keeps the info to a minimum on his site.
Another consideration is legality of selling seeds interstate and the banks like to keep information to a minimum on their site, while owners like Toby over at Oregon Elite Seeds, are very knowledgeable about the products he sales and will drop breeders that will not share their genetic sources, but keeps the info to a minimum on his site.
Lightgreen2k
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Tangerine_
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Yes planting those types of seeds is basic yet the very first one you posted lists the type of soil it likes and that it doesn't do well in heavily fertilized soil. It goes on to list number seeds, maturation window, zone ect.
The very next one list even more in depth info. Between the info on the seed packs and a Farmers Almanac to reference any novice grower would be good to go.
Seriously, I'm sitting here wondering if we're looking at the same packs.
All of this info is relevant for gardeners/farmers. Also, keep in mind these seeds are intended to go in the ground where mother nature does nearly all the work...not to mention they're usually less than a buck a pack.
I grew up on a working farm and yeah, cannabis was a big part of it. It paid our heating bills and helped put my brothers through college. The rest of the farm fed our asses throughout the yr. A LOT has changed since then. The days of ordering out of the back pages of cannabis mags is over...and thankfully for some states so is the high risk.
Trying to correlate the two is just further solidifying the majority of posters stance on this subject.
Why you fail to see that is anyones guess.
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Bakersfield
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I agree and growing out a strain takes experience to do right.
I'm by no means claiming that I have experience in spades, but I know I can grow a plant for the first time and get it mostly right. If I grow the same plant a few times, then it starts to look like I know what I'm doing, lol.
No amount of hand holding would make me an awesome grower.
morgwar
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I dig it and am totally sold on karma gear.
Jordan was an impulse buy and they do have some pretty outlandish claims for the strains I'm familiar with.
But ill give em credit for promotion.
I haven't gone through the barneys stuff yet, not sure I will but ya never know.
The costs of printing a sticker on a seed pack is annoying but its the cherry on top thanks for buying mentality.
If I ever became a breeder id list.
Strain name generation and cross names
Approx flower ( indoor and out)
Growth in flower (you know that three weeks of mayhem where things double or triple)
Bush or tall. With Approx size.
Heavy or light feeder
Desired temp. (Critical for Hawaiian strains)
Indoor or outdoor.
Small snippet on scent and flavor.
Tangerine_
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And the biggest point being missed is the massive price difference. I mean, I get that sealed breeder packs came to be out of necessity due to all the dirty fuckers in this game but there's no excuse for not listing it on the websites.
higher self
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If a lil info on the packs is hand holding then what would you call a forum where we share the info about the strains.
Bakersfield
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One trend I can see in Cannabis related advertising is the big seed producing breeders out of Holland, and Spain have very in depth descriptions of how awesome their gear is.
Newbs are attracted like moths to the flame of all these promises with visions of instant riches and peer acceptance.
Newbs are attracted like moths to the flame of all these promises with visions of instant riches and peer acceptance.
Lightgreen2k
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Another thought perhaps proprietorship, trade secret. What If I have a strain like Lemon Tree, and I didnt want you to know what it was so you could knock it off.
What if purple punch was not listed as larry og x grand daddy purple...
Anyhow thats another side of this topic.
What if purple punch was not listed as larry og x grand daddy purple...
Anyhow thats another side of this topic.
morgwar
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Ahh and a very valid point !
Especially if its something that you put together with land races or from scratch.
But still general info on how she likes to be treated imho.
Lightgreen2k
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There are only so many varieties of plants out there: autos/indicas / stativas .
They will have a "standard flowering time"
Og'
Diesels
Chems
similar needs
8-10 weeks..
A few other things.
So when growing, hmm some new og from archive, its adusting feeding really.
since1991
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All I know is back in the day all you had was the handful Dutch breeders and they had much more consistent offerings than the hundreds of so called breeders today. Dutch genetics got left in the dust last few years or so but back then...that was all there was and it was fire. Mich more difficult to get but if you did....a 10 pack of a cultivar was a true cultivar. Serious Seeds for instance. Pop a pqck of ak47 back then and you got plants that were much more uniform in structure...smell...taste..appearance..etc. Same with Paradise..amd the rest. Even Dutch Passion was really good back then. With todays chuckers (and yes - 99% of them are - ) your lucky to find consistency in anything. So much variation because none of them are doing it right. I personally dont care for variation. When I buy a pack of something...I want to know that the majority of the plants will turn out like the breeder envisioned or says thats what they will be. Not some hermie fest hay tasting hemp garbage. Iam picky. And for what they charge...i deserve tk be. Used to not be like that. Not with the old timey Dutch breeders back in the day. The reason why most people like variation is because they have been trained to. They dont know any better. Ask the handful of real breeders like Chimera...Simon...Shatibaba..Tom Hill...or that Garcia dude from ACE Seeds. They will tell you that it takes hundreds and more likely thousands of plants and at least 2 amd a half to 4 years of working them and selection process to come up with a true cultivar. Just one. Most so called breeders do not have the time..money..legality..or space to do it right. But they want to cash in and power trip on thinking they can breed. Fact of the matter is...most cant. Be leary of anyone that comes up with a catalog of strains in a short order of time amd doing the whole "official tester" hustle...giving seeds out to everyone for "test reports". Folks...this is not cannabis breeding. Hence why you have so much controversy...herm and garbage plant reports out there these days. There are not many (I mean really well known good breeders are rare as hens teeth) that can do or are willing to...do it right. I been saying for years but most just continue the seed hustle...get yourself a tent or room separate from the main. Where you can keep male pollen and do your own pollenchuking. You would be amazed at how easy it is to make your own seed that is just as much of a lottery ticket as what you pay some other hack 50 to 250 dollars for a few seeds on a printed label with a gokfy name. Because when you order from 90% of the "breeding conpanys" (lol) out there..thats exactly what your getting...a lottery ticket.
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