rosecitypapa
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Not so much. If you start a thread on the biowave, I'll contribute some thoughts on how to possibly diy one.
Do you play music for your plants?
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The Stig
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lol... you got a lot to learn my friend... don't believe what they told you on school...
for limited thinking and closed minded people energy is work or force on physical systems.. but we live in a world were not everything is physical.... your thought and emotions affect reality in an incredible complex way
do some research or even if you have time and want to SEE BY YOURSELF what I'm talking about here, try to do the Dr.Masaru Emoto rice experiment (you can look for it in on youtube)
whenever you speak or wish for something you are creating a special kind of energy, and this will affect the reality around you
mythbusters is a cool show but it's like trying to get result by giving an experiment to a child who doesn't know what the @#$^ his doing lol.. have fun watching the show but never believe what they say
also they are a LOT more forms of energy than those shown that website.. that's actually more like a school/kids explanation, do you know anything about Quantum physics?
ps. the last article is so retarded... no offense but it's true, it was provably done by an old guy with a really scare mind and limited thinking...
Heisenberg
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So aside from pointing out how naive I am, you can't answer my question. You are unable to define this energy, yet you seem entirely sure it's there. The best you can say is it's 'a special kind of energy'. Apparently one that can't be detected or measured and isn't subject to the laws of thermodynamics. Dr.Masaru's claims can not be reproduced in independent double blind study, a standard that science insists on. Your attempts to explain that this energy is outside the known reality amounts to nothing more than special pleading.
You are free to believe anything you want, but don't pretend it has anything to do with science.
You are free to believe anything you want, but don't pretend it has anything to do with science.
The Stig
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lol... keep up that retarded way of thinking it will take you far away in life
some people just don't have the intelligence to understand how the reality works
The Stig
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and you should NOT go spreading misinformation as if its true...
people like you are the reason why the world is in such a bad shape today
have you done ANY experiment by yourself??? Dr.Masaru experiment is a peace of cake anyone can do it.. unless you are afraid to
Heisenberg
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This is your 'intelligent' response? An ad hominem attack and an appeal to final consequences.
Science is a systematic way of carefully and thoroughly examining nature while using consistent logic to evaluate the results at the same time being aware of pitfalls of the human experience, such as mistakes of perception, logic and memory. Do you find fault in being systematic, being careful and thorough, having consistent logic, or being aware of mistakes of logic, memory and perception? What's the problem with having consistent standards of evidence? I've asked you completely reasonable questions and you respond with insults and invalid debate tactics.
In the end you are still unable to give straight forward answers to elementary questions. You are unable to explain why you believe, and can only criticize me for non-belief when I am simply applying the same standards we apply to every scientific claim.
Dr. Masaru did not follow the scientific method, because he refuses to place further controls on things like human interpretation. Obviously to determine if a snowflake is ugly or beautiful is subjective, and requires a control. He experimented enough to get the results he liked, and stopped there. Science demands that every attempt be made to falsify a claim before being handed off to peers for replication and further attempts to falsify. Dr. Masaru wants to circumvent these standards yet still calls his work scientific. Obviously science is aware that sometimes experiments lead to what seem genuine results until further controls and better experiments are designed, and then the artifact disappears. When others take Dr .Masaru's work and subject it to tighter control, the results that lead to belief in water memory are not there.
If you are so convinced by the rice experiment, why not apply to win the million dollar challenge? If what you are saying pans out you would certainly qualify, hands down. You don't need to have designed the experiment or made the discovery, simply demonstrate what you are saying is true under strictly controlled and blinded standards (the same we apply to all claims) and you win a million dollars.
The Stig
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so you weren't able to understand anything that I said or just want to play the smartass... have fun with that way of thinking..
you just want to FORCE your point of view no matter what the evidence says... I don't get at all where are you getting all that misinformation about Dr.Masaru experiment, why don't you DO IT before talking a lot of bs
seems like you are too closed minded for this conversation so better luck on your next life, because you will never learn what you have to on this one...
rosecitypapa
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What's that thing they call when you're driving a car and can't see what's behind you?so you weren't able to understand anything that I said or just want to play the smartass... have fun with that way of thinking..
you just want to FORCE your point of view no matter what the evidence says... I don't get at all where are you getting all that misinformation about Dr.Masaru experiment, why don't you DO IT before talking a lot of bs
seems like you are too closed minded for this conversation so better luck on your next life, because you will never learn what you have to on this one...
And that thing that people do that everyone else sees clearly but they themselves have not?
I'm all for Dr. Masaru work AND the efficacy of the scientific method, For me, life turn a different turn when I started to include 'and/also' in my thinking more so than 'either/or'.
skiweeds
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WOW! no offense to anyone but seems like y'all lost touch with reality.
music, emotions, feelings, plants feelings, plants feeling your feelings. yeah i read it all in outdated books. never believed it. not enough evidence. wont believe it until someone actually does a scientific test and proves it. besides that its not music that will help your plants. its the vibrations. better off adding circulation fans. spiritual bullshit, your thoughts and feelings have nothing to do with growing. these are like myths from the 70s. this one old book i read but had to stop reading cause it was junk, i want to say it was called secrets of the soil, had all kinds of bullshit like that. they made it sound like it was some secret and even went as far as to claim the US military did tests and had success. i dont buy any of it. anyone can say oh look at my grow room, i added music and the plants look so good. sure that may be true, but its not the music, its other shit they're doing right like lighting and proper nutrient feeding. you wanna grow excellent pot, be realistic, and dont trust anyone or any kind of experimentation unless you've tested it for yourself. i tell you what my plants dont get any 'positive energy' out of me in the summer. its so hot in both my grow rooms, im always pissed off and negative cause i hate working in heat. cant go anywhere to cool of. winter time im in a much better mood around my plants cause i can walk out and cool off. my mood has no effect whatsoever.
you want to grow better plants, music wont do shit. lighting is the most important thing.
light + nutrients + water + co2 + o2 + a few other things = plants
music, emotions, feelings, plants feelings, plants feeling your feelings. yeah i read it all in outdated books. never believed it. not enough evidence. wont believe it until someone actually does a scientific test and proves it. besides that its not music that will help your plants. its the vibrations. better off adding circulation fans. spiritual bullshit, your thoughts and feelings have nothing to do with growing. these are like myths from the 70s. this one old book i read but had to stop reading cause it was junk, i want to say it was called secrets of the soil, had all kinds of bullshit like that. they made it sound like it was some secret and even went as far as to claim the US military did tests and had success. i dont buy any of it. anyone can say oh look at my grow room, i added music and the plants look so good. sure that may be true, but its not the music, its other shit they're doing right like lighting and proper nutrient feeding. you wanna grow excellent pot, be realistic, and dont trust anyone or any kind of experimentation unless you've tested it for yourself. i tell you what my plants dont get any 'positive energy' out of me in the summer. its so hot in both my grow rooms, im always pissed off and negative cause i hate working in heat. cant go anywhere to cool of. winter time im in a much better mood around my plants cause i can walk out and cool off. my mood has no effect whatsoever.
you want to grow better plants, music wont do shit. lighting is the most important thing.
light + nutrients + water + co2 + o2 + a few other things = plants
Herecomestheganjabass
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i think your all making this way to complicated.....i like music and im alive so i would like to believe that my plants enjoy some sort of music in some way...even if it wont enhance the grow but i find it enjoyable to plug in some deadmau5 or skrillex for myself and my babies every once in a while
so that we can both rave and be happy
so that we can both rave and be happy
Winter Woman
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Yes, I do play music to them. I play Mozart, Requiem. It seems to ease their pain. lol.
tommyo3000
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Check it: documentary about mind/plants with music by Stevie Wonder.. enjoy! Seems flaky now, but fun to watch...
[video=youtube;M8kO5AF-lj4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8kO5AF-lj4[/video]
[video=youtube;M8kO5AF-lj4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8kO5AF-lj4[/video]
superskunkd
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i guess most ppl agree then! play your plants music whenever you feel like it. experiment if you feel like it experiment a lot over and over and over and record your findings and probably even if it works good for you there will always be someone telling you its stupid. who cares do whatever you want. i personally play the hell out of some music for my plants i love my girls and i beleive they will love me in return.
Dubbz0r
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I've heard that hard rock/heavy metal will both effect your plants positively and negatively. So I decided to play smooth jazz for them (whatever is on the radio). I personally don't listen to it in my free time but it does chill me out when I'm working on my plants. There's no reason they should not enjoy it.
superskunkd
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there isnt a clear answer to whether it is positive or negative (hard rock). i think in every situation in every grow room with all the different elements involved that each type of music would have to be tested on each individual grow creation. no one is doing exactly the same as the next person and i beleive that is why you should experiment for yourself and thats probably why there are differing opinions on whether it is good or bad (hard rock). i beleive if YOU YOURSELF like the music enough that there is definately potential there for your plants to like as well.. i play stuff like jack penate imogen heap the postal service modest mouse-i like to play them relaxing music!! anyways good luck..
Dubbz0r
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Thanks and I'm right there with you. I mean really... I read some shit about playing heavy metal for your plants will make them wilt and eventually die. That's a bunch of malarky, but it still turns me off from playing them the shit I listen to. Not so sure the plants want A7X screaming at them, then again maybe they do!
thump easy
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i took down the vibrating sex toys it look like a fucken x mas tree the bateries ran out so i took them down it didnt do nothing.... i only seen the tree get a yellow naner at the bottom it was pritty hard.
evilcloudst
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i sing to my plants unknowingly. I just get high a lot.