Does anyone want to receive Spiritual Enlightenment?

New Age United said:

I completely respect your opinions mellowfarmer, and I can see that you have a good understanding of what I am saying, some just do not understand. I must infer however that we are not on the same page as far as Metaphysics is concerned, it is simply the things that can not be understood by logic, beauty, Love, Peace, Bliss, Paradise, these are things of expression, they are actually the much more important(relatively) things in life.

"the vast majority of people on this planet do not inhabit a living universe, but a conceptiualized one" Tolle

All thoughts come and go in the blink of an eye, but the Ligth remains Eternal

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I am only discovering metaphysics so I should not speak too deeply on the subject but I find it to be in complete agreement to what you believe. Or not? Do you understand about how we are all energy interacting with energy? That positive energy is always more powerful than negative energy and that even our thoughts are energy?

Don't you ever walk into a room and just know some hate went down? You then hear about something like a fight or worse that you just missed? It feels heavy in the air doesn't it? That is the negative energy or yin imho and when the opposite occurs and you are around positive people who are happy and full of love, that is the positive, or yang energy.

I believe I can send Light and Love to those who need it and if I am wrong so be it lol have I not gotten to the not so chill parts of this vast study?

Hey Zaehat! So Sorry! May I send you, your brother, and especially that girl's family some light and love? It at the very least feels good to know others do care enough to do our silly rituals. It may just make us feel better but we believe positive only attracts positive. Peace and Love.

MellowFarmer said:

I am only discovering metaphysics so I should not speak too deeply on the subject but I find it to be in complete agreement to what you believe. Or not? Do you understand about how we are all energy interacting with energy? That positive energy is always more powerful than negative energy and that even our thoughts are energy?

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Speak as deeply as you like, I find that it is through your own error that understanding most often comes, the truth is often revealed by falsehood, whether it is by contemplation or by someone else pointing it out to you. Yes it is energy that is the Life of the universe, otherwise it would just be empty Space. My opinion, yes our thoughts are energy, vibrating at their own frequency and there are positive and negative, positive thoughts and emotions are always much more productive, however the negative does fulfill a purpose of its own, whether to for self reflection or simply as a means of destruction, the decay of matter is just as important as the production, it is a balance. That is not to say that we should be consumed or fueled by negativity, the thing is that the mind can become so out of balance that it is in the end the means of the destruction of its self, like a cancer that does not realize that by consuming the organism it is in fact bringing about its own demise.

MellowFarmer said:

Don't you ever walk into a room and just know some hate went down? You then hear about something like a fight or worse that you just missed? It feels heavy in the air doesn't it? That is the negative energy or yin imho and when the opposite occurs and you are around positive people who are happy and full of love, that is the positive, or yang energy.

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Most definately, our thoughts spark emotion, and emotion is very radiant, it is as if our nervous system has sensors that can detect this vibration, it actually plays a very important role in our interactions with people, this is one of the meanings of intuition, an instinctive response, it is especially noticeable during a confrontation, it grabs right on to people and directs all focus to it, and yes it is most certainly an energy that lingers even after the fact, it is really a chain reaction that remains active in the Heart and spreads like wildfire from person to person, it is a cause that has a continual effect.

MellowFarmer said:

I believe I can send Light and Love to those who need it and if I am wrong so be it lol have I not gotten to the not so chill parts of this vast study?

Hey Zaehat! So Sorry! May I send you, your brother, and especially that girl's family some light and love? It at the very least feels good to know others do care enough to do our silly rituals. It may just make us feel better but we believe positive only attracts positive. Peace and Love.

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Resist not evil, that is true Enlightenment. It is this chain reaction that is the cause of all conflict in the world today, it began long long ago, and if only this conflict were to meet the Light, we would see a true change in the world, if from one Heart to another there was nothing but Love, then you would see all darkness flee in the blink of an eye. Of course it is not that easy, the darkness is a force that has great momentum, and the Light is but a sapling pushing its way to the surface of the Earth, it must be made strong by the wind and the rain, but I have great faith that one day the Light will be like a mighty Oak, and the darkness will be but fig that withers and dies.

no just fuckin no

Heisenberg said:

The scientific view of intuition is much like its view of anecdotal evidence. It can be an indication of where to begin study, or in the complete absence of direction, can offer a hint of where a theory could go. It can be useful in the beginning of the scientific method which is why the steps which filter out things like intuition and anecdotal evidence come later in the process. The problem is that intuition is highly prone to error and different perspectives can produce intuitive answers which contradict each other. Intuition can be very hard to resist and often times in science finding accurate answers means embracing counter-intuitive thinking. Intuition is not instinct or insight, and has about as much value to science as a paperweight or bookmark.

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Genius Heisenberg, pure Genius, I understand this completely now, your view of Intuition as an instinctive impulse, it can lead to curiosity, a wondering, is your impulse correct or is it deception, is your Intuition sharp enough to discern the truth without Knowing, and of course this impulse can and often is wrong, but the Knowing facutly, it is this faculty which not only seeks the truth, but Knows the truth when it has found it, it is this of which I speak when I speak about Intuition.

I don't think i want to be enlightened by anyone who has an avatar that says "oh look, your moms dildo arrived".

Zaehet Strife said:

I don't think i want to be enlightened by anyone who has an avatar that says "oh look, your moms dildo arrived".

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It's funny Zaehet but you don't look like such a serious person in the pic, I accept you brother your good shit.

I'm just a happy go lucky kinda guy, just sayin bro, no way. lol.

I took a quick read through this thread and a couple of things caught my Attention, so I’ve decided to revive this thread in case anybody is interested. The last time was a great learning experience for me and I got to help just a few people. If you are interested in Enlightenment or if you just like Philosophy and want to state you opinions and arguments then you are more than welcome, mature adults only please. If you are suffering and need help you can pm me.

I noticed that a few people earlier in this thread were saying that Ghandi was not Enlightened, that is like saying that Nelson Mandela is not Enlightened because he was once an extremist, what you have to realize is that Enlightenment has to be practiced and given great Attention, many disillusionments must be faced, the Ego has tremendous momentum in the mind, and it first has to lose that momentum.

Harrekin said:

Can someone tell me what my "higher self" is made of, ie what base material is it made from?

Same with the soul, what is it comprised of?

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The higher self is formless, nothingness, One with the whole of Space, but not the fabric of the space-time continuum, the Space which is the container of all space-time. You are Space, that is where You art, that is your seat in the universe, your Awareness is a focal point in space-time, a frame of reference. You are the Light, both within and without, the Light is formless, Space, nothingness, emptiness, a very negative idea to the mind, I am nothing, a very deep Truth which only your Intuition can grasp, which only the Knower can grasp, which only You can grasp.

You are the higher Self, your True Self, Awareness. The Mortal Soul exists in your mind, which is comprised of energy, just as all things are energy. The movement of soul energy throughout your body has long been referred to as the Chi, it is emotional energy, it sits in the Dandian which is located just below the naval in the abdomen, if you are highly Aware of the inner body you can feel the latent energy in the Dandian, and you can feel the movement of emotional energy along the pathways of the Chi, you can feel that energy evading the mind and ultimately controlling your thoughts and actions, your Soul. The Soul is the individual human form, and thus is mortal, the True Self actually is Immortal, Space, Eternity itself, how can you destroy nothing.

The Mortal Soul is the perspective of a mortal human being living in Time, the Ego, but if you can snap out of the illusion of Time and come fully into the Present Moment, then your mind will come to a stand still and everything that I am saying will be completely Intuitive.

Zaehet Strife said:

So if that's the case... what is the point of it all?

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Is it ok if there is no point, is it ok if life is completely meaningless, is it ok just to be Alive, to be at Peace, to be full of Bliss, and to truly Love the entire world, all you have to do is open your eyes, come and dine with me in Paradise people.

Very good video, thanks for sharing, this will come in handy I'm glad I found. Thanks a bunch

Yes, anyone who has died on the table and returned will attest to their enlightenment.

mindphuk said:

Sounds like special pleading combined with begging the question to me. "oh, you just can't understand that's why you think I'm spouting bullshit, but in reality, if you were enlightened, you would understand how to become enlightened."

Your capitalizing "Truth" implies unique and special knowledge, and not your mundane, objective, truth such as what Einstein and Newton were referring. If you think there is one unique "truth" you should be able to demonstrate it without your contradictory, psuedo-spiritual nonsense. You can't even use consistent definitions of words. In spite of requests, you have yet to demonstrate anything like you claim actually exists. No one's ideas need to be taken seriously on their word alone.

You also seem to have a bone to pick with Dr. Hawking. The interesting thing is you haven't been specific but talk in circles about his supposed philosophy. You haven't even demonstrated he holds the views you attribute to him with any valid quotes or reference to any of his published work. The things is, he is one man. Though some may agree with his views, many may not. What's the point of attacking him in threads that haven't even mentioned him? Start a thread on Hawking if you want, but your attacks seem disjointed and out-of-place in the discussions where I have seen you make them.

I'm sure some of this may be due to smoking a lot before posting, but I wonder if sometimes you forgot to take your other meds. That wasn't meant as a cheap shot either but an honest appraisal based on people I know very well.

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Sounds like special pleading combined with begging the question to me- a misconception, the mind is very good at that. I do understand how to become enlightened, but being enlightened is not important at all. If it is necessary for me to state that I am enlightened I will, I am whatever I need to be in the moment I need to be it.

Psuedo-Spiritual nonsense- what if the nonsense actually was the Truth, as we have already been through before mindphuk, blackholes, what was once unintuitive becomes intuitive, intuition is never wrong, a counter-intuitive in itself.

I wanted to address you mindphuk because you seem to be the most neutral, weighing ideas as opposed to just throwing them out there, but still you must be more open minded if you want to attain Enlightenment, again it is not important.

The Truth absolutely must be completely Intuitive, it must make sense, it must be whole, it must ring as True in our Hearts and in our Minds. The Knower, You, literally is an Immortal Genius.

New Age United said:

I took a quick read through this thread and a couple of things caught my Attention, so I’ve decided to revive this thread in case anybody is interested. The last time was a great learning experience for me and I got to help just a few people.

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You say that the last time was a great learning experience for you, would you mind elaborating on what exactly you learned? It seems like you are spouting the same new-age, vague drivel that you were in 2013. Also, who exactly did you help, and how so?

If you are interested in Enlightenment or if you just like Philosophy and want to state you opinions and arguments then you are more than welcome, mature adults only please. If you are suffering and need help you can pm me.

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How are you qualified to help someone who is suffering? You are again setting yourself up as some teacher or guru, but we haven't seen you answer any of the criticism that was aimed at your ideas over a year ago. You haven't been able to answer the serious questions in this thread, how can you be considered a teacher? Why would anyone take you seriously until you do so?

I noticed that a few people earlier in this thread were saying that Ghandi was not Enlightened, that is like saying that Nelson Mandela is not Enlightened because he was once an extremist, what you have to realize is that Enlightenment has to be practiced and given great Attention, many disillusionments must be faced, the Ego has tremendous momentum in the mind, and it first has to lose that momentum.

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Yes, I brought that up. My point was that while Ghandi had good ideas in some respects, he held hateful and ignorant racist ideas (that he backed up with horrible actions), as well. You haven't even given a concrete definition of what you mean by enlightenment, and capitalizing the word seems like a cheap, dime-store advertisement (Enlightenment!™).

New Age United said:

The Truth absolutely must be completely Intuitive, it must make sense, it must be whole, it must ring as True in our Hearts and in our Minds. The Knower, You, literally is an Immortal Genius.

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Another assertion with no backing or support. This is simply your opinion, not objective reality. I see no growth since you've started this thread, and you seem to share delusional traits with our resident messiah, Nevaeh420. He actually offers more support of his position that he is christ than you do of being enlightened. That's unnerving...

tyler.durden said:

You say that the last time was a great learning experience for you, would you mind elaborating on what exactly you learned? It seems like you are spouting the same new-age, vague drivel that you were in 2013. Also, who exactly did you help, and how so?

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I learned not to insult those who do not see, it is really not their fault, their minds are just too active, the Ego has too much strength over the will. I honestly do not believe that I have enough Ego left to react in such a way again, there are still remnants of my Ego, it still pops up every once and a while. I helped 3 members who I would never tell you there identity by pm, also a few members messaged me to thank me and + rep me, did you notice how during that time my rep meter kept going up.


[QUOTE/]How are you qualified to help someone who is suffering? You are again setting yourself up as some teacher or guru, but we haven't seen you answer any of the criticism that was aimed at your ideas over a year ago. You haven't been able to answer the serious questions in this thread, how can you be considered a teacher? Why would anyone take you seriously until you do so?[/QUOTE]
I know that can help people transcend suffering because I've done it at least a hundred times, I do it everyday, I don't stop teaching Enlightenment, even in a regular conversation with people I am teaching Enlightenment, I am a servant to a higher power, my life has become completely effortless. I got a lot of responses the last time and could not find the time to respond to all of the criticism, I like to take my time and way my thoughts before I put them out there, sometimes if an answer doesn't come to me then I simply give up and realize that ultimately it is not important, I'm not going to just spurt out any response that comes to mind.



[QUOTE/]Yes, I brought that up. My point was that while Ghandi had good ideas in some respects, he held hateful and ignorant racist ideas (that he backed up with horrible actions), as well. You haven't even given a concrete definition of what you mean by enlightenment, and capitalizing the word seems like a cheap, dime-store advertisement (Enlightenment!™).[/QUOTE]
I will give a definition of what I am referring to when I say Enlightenment in my next post.



[QUOTE/]Another assertion with no backing or support. This is simply your opinion, not objective reality. I see no growth since you've started this thread, and you seem to share delusional traits with our resident messiah, Nevaeh420. He actually offers more support of his position that he is christ than you do of being enlightened. That's unnerving...[/QUOTE]
Yes it is my strictly my opinion, Time is an illusion(subjective) but the Earth is very Real(objective). The universe as it exists in Space, space-time existing in Eternity, that is Ultimate Reality.
I never asserted my position of being Enlightened and I have no need to prove that I am.

Can someone tell me how to properly quote lol

“Why does he eat with the sinners and the tax gatherers?”

“I came eating and drinking, and they will call me a gluttonous and a drunkard, this is why they will not believe that I am there messiah”

"they will not recognize their messiah"

What is Enlightenment?

How can you recognize it if you don’t even know what it is. When Siddhartha Gautama was asked what is Enlightenment all he would reply is “the end of suffering”, but how do we get to that state, how do we transcend suffering, how do we go about our own Enlightenment.

Enlightenment is a state of being in which you are able to separate your Self from the Thinker inside your Mind and recognize your True Self as pure Awareness. If you are able to maintain this state of being you will eventually be able to stop the over activity of the Mind and bring Balance to your life.

In this state of being you are completely free of Fear and Desire, that does not mean you can not take precaution to guard yourself from danger, nor does it mean you can not enjoy the fruit of the garden, you can still have sex, you can still eat your favourite foods, you can still smoke pot and drink beer, in fact as your Awareness rises and you become more alert to your senses you will be able to enjoy these things even more.

I was sitting in a bar teaching Enlightenment and I said to a guy – I have no desire

He said – you just bought a beer

I said- yes I just bought a beer, that just happened, I bought a beer, things happen

I took the beer and took a good pallet filling gulp, I paid direct Attention to the beer, I prefer Budweiser because it is more full flavoured than other beers, as long as I can pace myself to one beer every half our I can maintain a pleasant buzz without getting too loaded.

In the state of being which is Enlightenment you will also be more Loving, more caring for all beings on this planet. You are more Loving because you are at Peace, you are full of Bliss, and free from suffering. The Bliss of which I speak is not an overwhelming emotion, it is a very light and easy thing, just as the Love of which I speak is not an overwhelming emotion but a very light and easy thing.

Here is a counter intuitive, if you can stop thinking your mind will become sharper, but it is true, by giving your mind a break from the constant stream of thinking it will become much sharper when you do have to use it. In the state of Enlightenment you will find that your Thoughts become much wiser, the Truth comes to you with great ease, you will gain insights that otherwise would not be possible.

In this state of Enlightenment you will find that you are much more successful at manifesting your intentions and by paying greater Attention to things a much greater quality will go into everything you do, you will accomplish things with much greater ease, your life will be completely effortless, you will not have to strain to succeed.

Another important disillusionment, the unimportance of all things.

Relative Importance. If you are building a house it is very important that you lay the foundation first, but when you realize that the construction of the house itself is not actually important then the laying of the foundation loses its significance as well. If humanity is to survive for any great length of time the vast majority of human beings on this planet will have to attain Enlightenment, they will have to Awaken to the Immortal Truth, so in this case Enlightenment is very important, but when you realize that even the survival of humanity itself is not important, again the attainment of Enlightenment loses its significance.

Importance is just another one of the many concepts in your mind, it is subjective not objective, the key to Enlightenment is to find the Balance between the subjective and the objective, between form and formless, between the world and Space.