DOMA ruling is a start.

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echelon1k1

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UncleBuck said:
oh, did those only show equality in outcomes?

here, let me take another 2 seconds to show better outcomes: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html

you poor thing. it sucks when you're on the losing side of history, doesn't it?
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Here let me take 20 seconds to highlight, once again, your stupidity....

Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers


An inclonclusive study of lesbian mothers who tend to have higher education and socioeconomic status than the norm, that is still on going, that is the first one of it's kind... Good stuff, give me 86 hetro families who love and nurture their children nd I can replicate those results...

Thank you for MORE conclusive proof :clap:

That would be another 400% win for you

pro tip - looking at the history of gay marriage, i would say I'm on the winning side...
 
echelon1k1

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Padawanbater2 said:
Wait a few years... White assholes said the same thing in the mid 60's only to be quickly shut the fuck up by 1970

I'll give you til 2020
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Shit you can have until 2050... You find me a major religion that'll marry a gay couple... Good fucking Luck!

edit - didn't realise racial harmony was in full force in the US, guess you learn something new each day...
 
Nutes and Nugs

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Padawanbater2 said:
It is necessary for humans to kill animals to eat to sustain life, it is not necessary for humans to rape animals for sexual gratification. That's the difference, that's why killing animals is acceptable and raping them isn't. Even if you were to kill an animal after you had raped it, for consumption, raping it would be wrong because it's completely unnecessary.




Life doesn't require consent. Eating an animal for consumption is different than raping it for sexual gratification, you must understand, acknowledge and accept this. You will not die if you don't get your rocks off, that's the difference. If you would, raping non consenting beings might be seen differently, but in the reality we occupy, this is the rule.




That's absurd, how could you possibly know that unless you knew every gay couple, their occupations and what they did in their spare time?

Contributing to the economy by having kids? Is that what you're getting at? Even more absurd.




You're delusional if you think 'rape' = 'sex'





Yes, it is





I'm telling you that your public disapproval of homosexuality will be gone, just like blatant racism is gone today. Sure, there will be small pockets of idiots who linger in the shadows and hate gay people in secret, but the open, blatant bullshit will absolutely be a thing of the past. This is progress. Your grandkids will be as embarrassed to admit you were homophobic as grandkids today are to admit their grandparents were racist bigoted assholes, that's the light people like you will be seen in in 50 years, bask in it, enjoy it, you've earned it.
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Thanks for clearing up the top 2/3rds of your post.
It was unclear what you were talking about.

I doubt gays will be overly accepted in society for a very long time if only 3.4% of people are gay.
Most of us have bodies that are capable of reproducing.
This is natural, gay isn't.

What makes them gay?
I was told a chemical imbalance.
 
Padawanbater2

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SHOTGUN420 said:
O so only White people are assholes now?
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you think I'm some novice? I've been at this game since before you started sucking Uncle Sams tit, get the fuck out of here with that red herring. Come back when you're worth my time.

echelon1k1 said:
Shit you can have until 2050... You find me a major religion that'll marry a gay couple... Good fucking Luck!

edit - didn't realise racial harmony was in full force in the US, guess you learn something new each day...
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Awesome how you apply legitimate marriage to established organized religion when me, and millions of people like me, couldn't give a fuck less what religious bigoted assholes have to say! Like I said, wait a decade, 2020 at worst (for you), it'll be mainstream, the internet and social media is way too powerful for idiots like you to fight against, your closeted "it's icky so ewww!" mindset will fade away into the sunset and you'll be left alone in the dark. It'll be beautiful when you dummies start bitching all alone amongst yourselves like you could have "saved America if only the gays hadn't been allowed equal rights!", shut the fuck up. Sit in your place of shame and accept it, you're a racist, hateful, bigot. Dummies like you will be lost in the sands of time only remembered when someone in the future wonders "how stupid were people back then, really?"..

Organized religion will likely follow suit, I'll give it 100 years, that bullshit will be gone soon enough and finally, for once in it's history, humanity will be able to carry on without any unnecessary, irrelevant bullshit holding it back..
 
Padawanbater2

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Nutes and Nugs said:
Most of us have bodies that are capable of reproducing.
This is natural, gay isn't.

What makes them gay?
I was told a chemical imbalance.
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Reproduction doesn't define us as human beings. If it did, you would view a sterile person exactly the same as you would a homosexual person.

It doesn't matter what makes someone homosexual, that is the point
 
Nutes and Nugs

Nutes and Nugs

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Padawanbater2 said:
Reproduction doesn't define us as human beings. If it did, you would view a sterile person exactly the same as you would a homosexual person.

It doesn't matter what makes someone homosexual, that is the point
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That's why I said "Most of us".
Some people are born with both sets of hardware or that imbalance in the head.

I had a bi gf years ago, their world is very angry.
 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/05/gay-couples-children-happier_n_3388498.html

Kids can't grow up in apartments, in the US, though?

Freaking bigots irk me. They can try to muck up bullshit arguments against homosexuals marrying or simply even existing, with their twisted straw man logic. Many homophobic males have unresolved issues with their sexuality. All of their arguments revert to sex and sexual intercourse and how homosexuals (typically just males) engage in sexual intercourse or how next [typically just male] adults will be having sex with little boys and animals. Yeah. It gets ridiculous.

There is no such thing as civil union in many places. The idea is that couples who love each other enter into a contract with the government; granting them various rights\privileges and giving them responsibilities.

The fact of the matter is that when you say that these two [human adult consenting] people have these opportunities because they are heterosexual whereas this homosexual couple does not... well that is discrimination! Duh!

Homosexuality isn't a "brain disorder" any more than heterosexuality is. It could, perhaps, be genetic and it happens elsewhere in nature... but it is not a disorder. People don't choose to be gay, they are born that way. I have a cousin who is gay and we knew, probably before he even realized it.

I implore anybody who has an innate issue with homosexuality, to challenge your beliefs and your way of thinking about it. Usually guys are more offended when the "homosexual" couple is two males as opposed to two attractive young females. That is when you know you have a Grade A bigot. But anyways, think about why someone would want to be homosexual. You honestly think that is their conscious decision?

As a heterosexual male, I don't even understand why I like females so much. It comes down to the fact that I JUST DO. And of course, I don't like all of them; I have a pretty good idea what I like in particular about them... some turn me on more than others. But, I still don't really know why I am attracted to the girls I am attracted to, when it comes down to it. I just love vaginas.

Homosexual guys don't like vaginas... vaginas often do nothing for them.
 
Padawanbater2

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echelon1k1 said:
Whole lotta ASSumptions moron... I don't support gay marriage as I've said before Marriage by definition is between a man and a woman. It recognises the unique biological reality of hetrosexual union; a union that produces children. Its institutional importance is in solidifying the responsibility and bonds between biological parents and children through societal norms and legal obligations - even infertile couples have still had their relationships recognised as marriages, it is the principle of biological union that underpins marriage

Oh and lets not forget that racism in America was ROOTED by the democrats & liberal fuckholes like you are no better, ease up on the crack (both types)

So sit there bitch and complain all you want, put words into my mouth, won't change the evolutionary reality that marriage is between a man and woman. Without it we wouldn't be here...
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You are truly stunted..

Your entire argument is basically "marriage is sacred because a man and a woman create babies". When in fact that isn't and never was the purpose of marriage to begin with. Like I mentioned before, marriage, traditionally, was a business transaction. Furthermore, your idiotic argument ignores the fact that elderly and sterile heterosexual couples should have the right to marry. Either be a consistent bigoted asshole and deny them the right as well, or admit to being a hypocritical asshole who only doesn't want homosexual couples to marry because you think it's icky.
 
echelon1k1

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Padawanbater2 said:
You are truly stunted..

Your entire argument is basically "marriage is sacred because a man and a woman create babies". When in fact that isn't and never was the purpose of marriage to begin with. Like I mentioned before, marriage, traditionally, was a business transaction. Furthermore, your idiotic argument ignores the fact that elderly and sterile heterosexual couples should have the right to marry. Either be a consistent bigoted asshole and deny them the right as well, or admit to being a hypocritical asshole who only doesn't want homosexual couples to marry because you think it's icky.
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Im not bigoted against gays, you can play tennis with a homosexual... I don't support gay marriage and never will. Sorry, enough bending to the will of minorities and every other fuckhead that jumps on the "society owes us something" bandwagon... 1.7% of the populace according to Garry Gates, demographer-in-residence at the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy, a think tank based at the University of California, Los Angeles

Your only argument rests on "love"... Well guess what? Marriage in your country isn't something historically based on love and you only have the choice between a religious and civil ceremony. Major religions will not marry gays. Full Stop. That won't be changing anytime soon especially the Judaeo-Christian model, so deal with it!

Really, just after the game you say "I'm gonna get a beer, what you gonna do?" "I think I'll go suck somebody's dick." "Well, I'll see you later. Take it easy. You go suck that dick. I'm gonna have the beer."
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Padawanbater2

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echelon1k1 said:
Im not bigoted against gays, you can play tennis with a homosexual... I don't support gay marriage and never will. Sorry, enough bending to the will of minorities and every other fuckhead that jumps on the "society owes us something" bandwagon... 1.7% of the populace according to Garry Gates, demographer-in-residence at the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy, a think tank based at the University of California, Los Angeles

Your only argument rests on "love"... Well guess what? Marriage in your country isn't something historically based on love and you only have the choice between a religious and civil ceremony. Major religions will not marry gays. Full Stop. That won't be changing anytime soon especially the Judaeo-Christian model, so deal with it!
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Yeah, excuse homosexuals for believing society owes them equality in a free society, I mean, fuck them, right!?

My argument relies on equality, love can go fuck itself, I don't even believe in love, I think love is a bullshit word made up to justify prison sentences for men.

Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one, which is why atheists can get married.
 
Nutes and Nugs

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Padawanbater2 said:
Yeah, excuse homosexuals for believing society owes them equality in a free society, I mean, fuck them, right!?

My argument relies on equality, love can go fuck itself, I don't even believe in love, I think love is a bullshit word made up to justify prison sentences for men.

Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one, which is why atheists can get married.
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What is in your bong?
I wanna grow some.
 
echelon1k1

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Padawanbater2 said:
Yeah, excuse homosexuals for believing society owes them equality in a free society, I mean, fuck them, right!?

My argument relies on equality, love can go fuck itself, I don't even believe in love, I think love is a bullshit word made up to justify prison sentences for men.

Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one, which is why atheists can get married.
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Your society isn't free, you're mistaken if you believe that... Is the bolded your experience? Or did you realise you were that way after a wife, mortgage and a couple of kids?
 
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Having sex with animals is not wrong. What would make someone want to do it, Im not sure. The only problem would be if someone tried to have sex with a very small animal. Nothing smaller than a very large dog. Human sexuality is a very complex subject, some folks even have sexual desires towards cars and other objects. They cannot help what they are attracted to. You people are so bigoted. This is the main reason why I fail to go beyond "I agree/do not object" to homosexual rights. I don't vote for or against it. Its because homosexuals and their advocates are equally bigoted towards even more obscure sexual minorities. Obviously any society cannot condone baby lovers, but animals are a different issue. If I were a cow, I would rather a cow fucker buy me than a guy that's just going to slaughter me for my meat. If I were a human slave, I would rather be bought as a body slave, than one for forced labor. We do all kinds of horrible things to animals, testing, eating yada yada yada. Screwing one is hardly the worst thing that can happen to it. Rat terrior = no, Great Dane = ok.
 
Padawanbater2

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echelon1k1 said:
Your society isn't free, you're mistaken if you believe that... Is the bolded your experience? Or did you realise you were that way after a wife, mortgage and a couple of kids?
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Semantics, stfu with that and get on with an actual argument if you've got one. "Your society isn't free", that isn't the point, you know that isn't the point, stop being an idiot..

BigNBushy said:
Having sex with animals is not wrong.
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:shock: Yes, it is

BigNBushy said:
What would make someone want to do it, Im not sure. The only problem would be if someone tried to have sex with a very small animal. Nothing smaller than a very large dog.
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Ah, so it's the size of the animal that makes it wrong..

BigNBushy said:
Human sexuality is a very complex subject, some folks even have sexual desires towards cars and other objects. They cannot help what they are attracted to. You people are so bigoted. This is the main reason why I fail to go beyond "I agree/do not object" to homosexual rights. I don't vote for or against it. Its because homosexuals and their advocates are equally bigoted towards even more obscure sexual minorities. Obviously any society cannot condone baby lovers, but animals are a different issue. If I were a cow, I would rather a cow fucker buy me than a guy that's just going to slaughter me for my meat. If I were a human slave, I would rather be bought as a body slave, than one for forced labor. We do all kinds of horrible things to animals, testing, eating yada yada yada. Screwing one is hardly the worst thing that can happen to it. Rat terrior = no, Great Dane = ok.
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You are a crazy person, seek professional counseling
 
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