Donald Trump

At a moment when the country is relentless focused on unemployment, there are still jobs that often go unfilled. These are difficult, dirty, exhausting jobs that, for previous generations, were the first rickety step on the ladder to prosperity. They still are—just not for Americans.

For decades many of Alabama’s industries have benefited from a compliant foreign workforce and a state government that largely looked the other way on wages, working conditions, and immigration status. With so many foreign workers now effectively banished from the work pool and jobs sitting empty, businesses must contend with American workers who have higher expectations for themselves and their employers—even in a terrible economy where work is hard to find. “I don’t consider this a labor shortage,” says Tom Surtees, Alabama’s director of industrial relations, himself the possessor of a job few would want: calming business owners who have seen their employees vanish. “We’re transitioning from a business model. Whether an employer in agriculture used migrant workers, or whether it’s another industry that used illegal immigrants, they had a business model and that business model is going to have to change.”

Tough shit for Rhodes, boo fuckin hoo.. Nobody should work for 5$ an hour for ten hours a day..legal or not.

Joey Bearden, who owns a 30-acre farm nearby, waits for his turn to speak. “The governor stepped in and started this bill because he wants to put people back to work—they’re not coming!” says Bearden. “I’ve been farming 25 years, and I can count on my hand the number of Americans that stuck.”

It’s a hard-to-resist syllogism: Dirty jobs are available; Americans won’t fill them; thus, Americans are too soft for dirty jobs. Why else would so many unemployed people turn down the opportunity to work during a recession? Of course, there’s an equally compelling obverse. Why should farmers and plant owners expect people to take a back-breaking seasonal job with low pay and no benefits just because they happen to be offering it? If no one wants an available job—especially in extreme times—maybe the fault doesn’t rest entirely with the people turning it down. Maybe the market is inefficient.

The money isn’t good—$2 per basket, plus $600 to clear the three acres when the vines were picked clean—but he figures it’s better than sitting around. Plus, the transportation is free, provided by Jerry Spencer, who runs a community-supported agriculture program in Birmingham. That helps, because the farm is an hour north of Birmingham and the gas money adds up.

Durr thinks of himself as fit—he’s all chiseled muscle—but he is surprised at how hard the work is. “Not everyone is used to this. I ain’t used to it,” he says while taking a break in front of his truck. “But I’m getting used to it.”

Yet after three weeks in the fields, he is frustrated. His crew of seven has dropped down to two. “A lot of people look at this as slave work. I say, you do what you have to do,” Durr says. “My mission is to finish these acres. As long as I’m here, I’m striving for something.” In a neighboring field, Cedric Rayford is working a row. The 28-year-old came up with two friends from Gadsden, Ala., after hearing on the radio that farmers were hiring. The work is halfway complete when one member of their crew decides to quit. Rayford and crewmate Marvin Turner try to persuade their friend to stay and finish the job. Otherwise, no one will get paid. Turner even offers $20 out of his own pocket as a sweetener to no effect. “When a man’s mind is made up, there’s about nothing you can do,” he says.

Yup boo fucking who lol Who would you hire Turner, who usually works as a landscaper, agrees the pay is too low. At $75 in gas for the three days, he figures he won’t even break even. The men finish their cigarettes. Turner glances up the hill at Castro’s work crew. “Look,” he says. “You got immigrants doing more than what blacks or whites will. Look at them, they just work and work all day. They don’t look at it like it’s a hard job. They don’t take breaks!”

Moral of the story is Americans are to soft i could pull 50 baskets a day easy make 100 bucks a day with a 600 bonus for clearing 3 acres ??? is it that bad of pay even if they paid a amercian 25 bucks a hr still take him 5 times longer to clear it lol thats the sad truth you would work at a crawl and at the end if you were the owner you take a loss should the owner take a loss ???
or maybe hike up tomatoes for 30 bucks for 3 of them @ the store
Then you cry cause these people purchased home and are living and getting ahead yet you feel wronged cause you cant seem to get ahead or keep up with the jones
its all about priorities you want that flashy necklace and 80 " plasma and these people are happy with 20" TV food on there table and a home that one day will be theres

The cost of living is too high to expect anyone to work for chump change. Those guys probably make 50$ a day cash and pay no taxes.

Mexicans are hard workin MFers .. I've seen 140 lb mexicans hang 12' x 4' x 5/8" sheets of drywall on ceilings alone... Drill in one hand, using their neck and head and they move fast.. The ceilings are always double rocked too for fire-sound building codes.. I hung one to see how hard it was and it took me probably 90 seconds.. It was hard.. These guys do it in 45 seconds and they do it for 8 hours a day.. Not to mention these mexicans were 45-50 lbs lighter than me.. Those sheets weight over a hundred lbs.

Thats what i mean people need to back off on these people there taking the low end jobs that many wold not even bother there here to work there friendly mean no harm but everyone thinks there taking away there jobs which i find really fucking funny most americans wouldn't last 4 hrs doing there work legal or not USA did sign a treaty to bring them in to work after world war 2
they surely are not fucking up the system,, Your government has
There just trying to make a living like any other joe

nitro harley said:

Fuck , did it leave a mark?

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Yup, my shit on his face!

B4L

Darth Vapour said:

Thats what i mean people need to back off on these people there taking the low end jobs that many wold not even bother there here to work there friendly mean no harm but everyone thinks there taking away there jobs which i find really fucking funny most americans wouldn't last 4 hrs doing there work legal or not USA did sign a treaty to bring them in to work after world war 2
they surely are not fucking up the system,, Your government has
There just trying to make a living like any other joe

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Hey DV, You have a lot of tear jerking stories. Trump will be the best thing for them, all they will have to do is sign up and go to work. The american dream with house and picket fence and little puppies jumping around.

Blunted 4 lyfe said:

Yup, my shit on his face!

B4L

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Sorry about your luck.

doublejj said:

If you pass the fine & save your money on the wall, it will only get in the way of all the Mexicans going south...

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Trump says the wall will be a great wall so more than likely it will have some bad ass flood gates. To be honest and joking aside I believe the only ones that are going though the gate would be the ones that we don't want here that are not working or staying out of trouble with violent crimes.

The rest of them will sign up and continue with their american dream. imo

Blunted 4 lyfe said:

I've done work at Trump towers and several of his buildings doing HVAC construction and he treats Hispanics with disdain, he wasn't like that when he was in Brooklyn it's only once he moved to Manhattan, he is scum.

B4L

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Speaking of prejudice, yours is showing. Fox "The Five" discuss Trump and politics in general on a daily basis and more than one witness has seen Trump shake hands and take time out while coming and going to show concern for all employees including custodians. This is before he was announcing running for office, like last year. Janitors opine when seeing him go by, "I want to be like him some day!"

True story.....

As an aside, might want to check your attitude at the door before entering his house.

spandy said:

Because Canada has good weed, and their country isn't completely out of fucking control.

Or maybe America just hates Mexicans.

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Yes I know this is an old post. I agree Canada has great resources for growing weed. There are few differences between Canada and the US. So few that after a week being there it doesn't feel that different than here. Stuff there is more expensive.

The huge thing Canada has going for it. Border security. If you don't have a passport or the right papers you can't go in eithier direction.

Peace to the 9

This country needs a leader with big balls and a huge dick. Most important he shouldn't be afraid to rock with his cock out! Trump would kick ass and take names. There will no longer be any negotiating with terrorist. That is wrong. We paid dearly when that happened. Shortly after that ISIS formed. There was no surprise there. Its time for this country to not be affraid of stepping on toes. To setting up an ironclad system to free up our money. Face it! We are Chinas bitch. The o is so wishy washy that it is terrible. He's like the kid that always gets picked on. Has zero spine. Trump you can tell he is willing to do the job. When the republicans were asked is they would switch sides if it doesn't work here. Trumps answer of saying he can't promise that is a move of power. Everyone on that stage looked like a deer in head lights when that question came up. A surgeon for a president. Please! Hillary. Thats a joke without adding anything to it.

Now is the time. We have been given way to many passes. Time for us to hunt and chase down the ball.
We need a man of power. Theses last 7 years are the worst I know of. Failed policy after failed policy. Then to bypass congress to get his weak policy through was utterly disscusting. Your not a king.

Time for america to trade there Airsoft gun for a sniper riffle. Here is the o's gun.. http://www.target.com/p/nerf-zombie-strike-zed-squad-longshot-cs-12-blaster/-/A-15268007#prodSlot=medium_1_23&term=airsoft+gun

Here is trumps gun.. http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/thor_m40-e.html

Get the picture.

Yes, it's time to get the wimp out of office and get some one in that will kick butt and not take any shit off folks. All of the Republican candidates are of that ilk. Look at the way Carly F. handed those dumb, mean spirited bitches on The View a few days ago as they tried to spin their way out of calling her ugly.

My prediction - Hillary will get the nomination or 'coronation' if you will for the Dems.

Neither Trump nor Carson will get the Republican nomination. Who will is up for grabs. Any one of them would be far more smarter, honest, open, and less devisive than Billary. I mean when Billary publicly declares that Republicans are her biggest enemy, what does that suggest about her character and willingness to compromise?

Darth Vapour said:

Thats what i mean people need to back off on these people there taking the low end jobs that many wold not even bother there here to work there friendly mean no harm but everyone thinks there taking away there jobs which i find really fucking funny most americans wouldn't last 4 hrs doing there work legal or not USA did sign a treaty to bring them in to work after world war 2
they surely are not fucking up the system,, Your government has
There just trying to make a living like any other joe

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I've heard about another aspect that doesn't get talked about. I put myself through school building mobile homes, a lot of migrant workers there too because it was hot sucky work. The migrant workers shared crappy single-wides sometimes living up to 15 people in each. Here's the shitty part, they were charged by the head at 100 per. This was 20 years ago and people were getting up to 1500 a month for a run down single wide trailer. Even when legal, people took advantage of migrant workers.

These guys worked hard all day and never called in sick. Most of them worked for a year, saved every dime and went back home "wealthy" in comparison to when they arrived. It worked out well for their families if their intent was to go back home.

When I was rehab director and couldn't find a PT to come to rural GA, HR found a South African who needed sponsorship and brought her over on a two year contract. She was the best PT I've ever worked with and the lowest paid. My assistants were all making more than her. It's not just the Mexican migrants we take advantage of. 8 years later she now has my old job making 6 figures and is a citizen, so it worked out well for both parties, but she definitely paid her dues to come here.

The hospitalist program the hospitals have moved to has seen a rise in hiring foreign doctors. If you don't know what it is, they are full time hospital employees. Your regular doctor rarely comes to see you anymore like they used to. These doctors for the most part suffer from a communication problem and of course, are cheaper.

It's not just un-skilled migrants we take advantage of, even the most educated get used as a cheaper alternative, but it get's their feet in the door so to speak so it's hard to call it unfair.

What exactly are you calling for @9leaves ?

nitro harley said:

Trump says the wall will be a great wall so more than likely it will have some bad ass flood gates. To be honest and joking aside I believe the only ones that are going though the gate would be the ones that we don't want here that are not working or staying out of trouble with violent crimes.

The rest of them will sign up and continue with their american dream. imo

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It takes on average 18 years for a visa to get even looked at if you are Mexican.
If a Mexican could sign up they would.
Fucking racist. Why not just admit you hate brown people?

ChesusRice said:

It takes on average 18 years for a visa to get even looked at if you are Mexican.
If a Mexican could sign up they would.
Fucking racist. Why not just admit you hate brown people?

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That's what needs to be fixed. I know a Canadian couple that took 11 years to get the paperwork in order to come here legally.

No way that should take longer than a year. You could have one person total working the claims and it shouldn't take 18 years.