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ChesusRice

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Where is the christian ISIS today? Where are all the christian al queda groups? Your argument always ends up somehow going to the middle ages vs. today. We all know the catholic church is fucked up (they are not christian or at least based off the bible any more than mormons are based off the bible). Anyone who thinks the catholics are really following the bible is ignorant. And just so you know, during the time when all of the "christian murders" were happening during the middle ages, the catholic church kept their people from reading the Bible and for it to be translated into the language of the people of foreign nations. Didn't you know that? I REPEAT, DURING THE MIDDLE AGES OF MURDER, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PREVENTED AND DISCOURAGED PEOPLE FROM GETTING THEIR OWN COPIES OF THE BIBLE TO STUDY IT FOR THEMSELVES. THE PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO GET WHAT SCRIPTURE SAID FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!

You need to study more about the subjects you preach as fairy tales.

The only fairy-tale here is the one you always push - that there is a such thing as christian terrorism taking over this world just as much as islamic terrorism is taking over the middle east and abroad.
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Flaming Pie

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Well, actually the thread is over Trump. And this is the damage that fucktard is doing: Trump, by his irresponsible hate-baiting speeches to the Muslim-hating Evangelist right wing Christians, is legitimizing this kind of attitude. Do you think that Trump actually believes that somebody professing Islam is a threat to the US? I don't think so. I think he's using the fervor of the Christian right bigots to help himself to power. Do you think he is earnest about this issue? Is this a reason to you for supporting him?
I don't support him. I have just been watching the thread and they started talking about the topic I mentioned.
 

Flaming Pie

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1) “We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with winning.”
2) “Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don't think so! ...If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!”
3) “When someone crosses you, my advice is ‘Get Even!’ That is not typical advice, but it is real life advice. If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck! When people wrong you, go after those people because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I love getting even. I get screwed all the time. I go after people, and you know what? People do not play around with me as much as they do with others. They know that if they do, they are in for a big fight.”
4) “What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc. ...Many fabulous people come in from Mexico and our country is better for it. But these people are here legally, and are severely hurt by those coming in illegally.”
5) “Protect the downside and the upside will take care of itself.....I happen to be very conservative in business. I always go into a deal anticipating the worst. If you plan for the worst -- if you can live with the worst -- the good will always take care of itself.”
6) “People who think achieving success is a linear A-to-Z process, a straight shot to the top, simply aren’t in touch with reality. There are very few bona fide overnight success stories. It just doesn’t work that way. Success appears to happen overnight because we all see stories in newspapers and on TV about previously unknown people who have suddenly become famous. But consider a sequoia tree that has been growing for several hundred years. Just because a television crew one day decides to do a story about that tree doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before.”
7) "I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. I've been challenged by so many people, and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness. And to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either."
8)Experience taught me a few things. One is to listen to your gut, no matter how good something sounds on paper. The second is that you’re generally better off sticking with what you know. And the third is that sometimes your best investments are the ones you don’t make.”
9) “I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers. No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen. ...One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jet fighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.” -- Donald Trump in 2000
10) “In the make-believe world you will automatically get paid what you are worth. The real world doesn’t work that way. You get paid what you are worth only when the person you are dealing with has no other choice.”
11) “The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts.”
12) “Criticism is easier to take when you realize that the only people who aren’t criticized are those who don’t take risks.”
13) “I will build a great wall — and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me —and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”
14) “The more government takes in taxes, the less incentive people have to work. What coal miner or assembly-line worker jumps at the offer of overtime when he knows Uncle Sam is going to take sixty percent or more of his extra pay? . . . Any system that penalizes success and accomplishment is wrong. Any system that discourages work, discourages productivity, discourages economic progress, is wrong. If, on the other hand, you reduce tax rates and allow people to spend or save more of what they earn, they’ll be more industrious; they’ll have more incentive to work hard, and money they earn will add fuel to the great economic machine that energizes our national progress. The result: more prosperity for all—and more revenue for government.”
15) “The world is a horrible place. Lions kill for food, but people kill for sport. People try to kill you mentally, especially if you are on top. We all have friends that want everything we have. They want our money, our business, house, car, wife and dog. Those are our friends. Our enemies are even worse! You have to protect yourself in life.”
16) “Think how boring it would be to just sail into things and have everything be perfect. You can’t prove your merit on quiet waters, whether you’re a businessman or a mariner.”
17) “Your brother’s administration gave us Barack Obama because it was such a disaster those last 3 months that Abraham Lincoln couldn’t get elected.” – To Jeb Bush
18) “Rich people are rich because they solve difficult problems. You must learn to thrive on problems.”
19) “If you’re interested in ‘balancing’ work and pleasure, stop trying to balance them. Instead make your work more pleasurable.”
20) “A nation WITHOUT BORDERS is not a nation at all. We must have a wall. The rule of law matters.”
21) “Luck does not come around often. So when it does, be sure to take full advantage of it, even if it means working very hard. When luck is on your side it is not the time to be modest or timid. It is the time to go for the biggest success you can possibly achieve. That is the true meaning of thinking big.”
22) “Well, I think that when you get right down to it, we're a nation that speaks English. I think that, while we're in this nation, we should be speaking English. Whether people like it or not, that's how we assimilate.”
23) “Back in 1991 the markets were terrible, and everyone was going out of business. I was in deep, deep trouble. I owed billions of dollars. Sure, I could tell you all I want about how to handle pressure well, but I owed many banks billions of dollars. It was not exactly fun. Believe me, it is not cool to be Donald Trump when you owe billions of dollars.”
I disagree with a lot of that
 

Uncle Ben

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Should have figured that out when they ran that mohammad drawing contest, those people were atheists. Didn't some muslims try to kill them or something?
Yep. Believe that was Dallas. Cops got to them first. By now they're on their 32nd virgin working their way to the top. :mrgreen:
 

Uncle Ben

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Always trust your gut and intuition on religion imo. Nothing is true just becuase someone says it is, think objectively. Im not religious at all personally. I enjoy learning about them though, facinating stuff. As they say, history is key to understnding our future
Recommend a fascinating course I took in my senior year in college, an elective course just to get the hours - Comparative Religions. It was taught by a practicing Methodist who admitted he was an agnostic in class. Could not believe he had the balls to admit it. Those were the old days when PC hadn't yet been engineered and used as a destructive tool by libtards.

The course/book began with the ancient worship of things that one could not explain in logical concrete terms, like the worship of the sun, or rock, or tree and then proceeded to a comprehensive review and study of every major and minor religion of today....how and by whom it was founded, the principles, ethics, laws, etc.

Religions were founded for social and individual control. I wrote a college paper on Christianity and how it uses certain covert means of controlling others, like you child, thru guilt or fear - "Johnny, if you don't quit stealing candy God is not going to like you and will send you to hell"

Reward & punishment psychological mechanisms used for control. Ten Commandments are a good example. it is those tenets that American civil and criminal law is based upon.

That's why Shariah Law is such a dangerous and powerful influence on many Muslims. It's all about intolerance and violence against those outside of The Islamic Herd.
 

The_Herban_Legend

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That's why Shariah Law is such a dangerous and powerful influence on many Muslims. It's all about intolerance and violence against those outside of The Islamic Herd.
Great write up. However, your last paragraph could have included Christianity, as well. I took a couple theology classes in undergrad. Fun and interesting classes.

Your grade: B+ (include Christianity in your last paragraph and I will bump you up to an A-)
 

OddBall1st

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Seeing as how Christians commit acts of violence in the name of Christianity and Muslims commit acts of violence in the name of Islam, I would argue what they claim to follow isn't as relevant as the actions they commit.

Wouldn't you agree?
The other day I called your minions out on the US death toll in Iraq, they gave me numbers without cause and the only one example I gave in return was the same ole same ole you gonna believe that over me attitude. I was expecting to be shut up right away with facts and all I got was excuses as to why their source is correct and mine isn't.

Well, I`m calling BS on this post of yours, You say Christians Commit in the name of Christians, I`m a give you one chance to change it to ,,..People commit in the name of Christianity.

Nowhere do Christian leaders approve of or preach and teach violence in the name of Christianity. Muslims do.

Your post quoted here is totally thought up bullshit,...

You know what I want,....Prove what you typed, don`t give me a crime committed by a man in the name of Christianity, Give me what you said, Christians committing violence in the name of Christianity. I want Christians backing Christian violence, leaders and all.

Then we`ll move on to the BS excuses you have for Islamic radical violence you compare Christianity to.

Today`s day and age would be nice and clear, yesterday or during the Roman empire will only show that you posted bullshit.

Maybe you will fair better on this than they did on that call out the other day.
 

OddBall1st

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I can show you an entire Muslim Army killing in the name of God. Flags, territory, leaders and all the weapons too.

That`s what I want from you Paddy or what you posted is total instigating bullshit.
 

Uncle Ben

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Great write up. However, your last paragraph could have included Christianity, as well. I took a couple theology classes in undergrad. Fun and interesting classes.

Your grade: B+ (include Christianity in your last paragraph and I will bump you up to an A-)
Funny but I was on and off scholastic probation most of my college days. Got busted for pot at a college in East Texas back in '68. Those redneck cops and troopers were SOB's....but I digress. Finally stopped the heavy acid use and such and ended up on the honor roll.
 

Uncle Ben

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Nowhere do Christian leaders approve of or preach and teach violence in the name of Christianity. Muslims do.
Good points, but you're talking to a rock. I have been to many a Christian service, even as an agnostic (because someone wanted my company) and NEVER have a heard a sermon or congregation of hate speech against any race or religion. Christianity is indeed the religion of peace and love. So much so that at times I can't fuckin' STAND to hear Christians forgiving madmen who just killed their family members or created other atrocities. Example was the many folks who expressed forgiveness on the witness stand directed at that young white kid who blew away those nice black folks who were enjoying Bible study class. Forgot his name but here's his picture. That was it, the Charleston shooter.

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OddBall1st

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Recommend a fascinating course I took in my senior year in college, an elective course just to get the hours - Comparative Religions. It was taught by a practicing Methodist who admitted he was an agnostic in class. Could not believe he had the balls to admit it. Those were the old days when PC hadn't yet been engineered and used as a destructive tool by libtards.

The course/book began with the ancient worship of things that one could not explain in logical concrete terms, like the worship of the sun, or rock, or tree and then proceeded to a comprehensive review and study of every major and minor religion of today....how and by whom it was founded, the principles, ethics, laws, etc.

Religions were founded for social and individual control. I wrote a college paper on Christianity and how it uses certain covert means of controlling others, like you child, thru guilt or fear - "Johnny, if you don't quit stealing candy God is not going to like you and will send you to hell"

Reward & punishment psychological mechanisms used for control. Ten Commandments are a good example. it is those tenets that American civil and criminal law is based upon.

That's why Shariah Law is such a dangerous and powerful influence on many Muslims. It's all about intolerance and violence against those outside of The Islamic Herd.

Reward and punishment is the way every parent, regardless of religion, raises their child. Well 99% of them. It`s been done that way forever.

We teach our pet dog the same way. Because it works.
 

Fogdog

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Maybe you'd rather open your legs instead. If not you then perhaps your daughter, wife, or mother would be willing to be multiculturally enriched.
I'll say it again, Trump's rhetoric gives religious Christian assholes like you license to spew your bigotry. When you do that, you give license to assholes with another religious perspective such as Islam to spew their own bigotry. Trump is using you dude. Oh, and that video must be factual, after all you pulled it from the internet. You are a fool and a pawn of Trump and his ilk.
 

pnwmystery

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The other day I called your minions out on the US death toll in Iraq, they gave me numbers without cause and the only one example I gave in return was the same ole same ole you gonna believe that over me attitude. I was expecting to be shut up right away with facts and all I got was excuses as to why their source is correct and mine isn't.

Well, I`m calling BS on this post of yours, You say Christians Commit in the name of Christians, I`m a give you one chance to change it to ,,..People commit in the name of Christianity.

Nowhere do Christian leaders approve of or preach and teach violence in the name of Christianity. Muslims do.

Your post quoted here is totally thought up bullshit,...

You know what I want,....Prove what you typed, don`t give me a crime committed by a man in the name of Christianity, Give me what you said, Christians committing violence in the name of Christianity. I want Christians backing Christian violence, leaders and all.

Then we`ll move on to the BS excuses you have for Islamic radical violence you compare Christianity to.

Today`s day and age would be nice and clear, yesterday or during the Roman empire will only show that you posted bullshit.

Maybe you will fair better on this than they did on that call out the other day.
You didn't disprove a single thing. You took a single source and said it was more valid than every other source because he spent a tour or two in Iraq, which by any means is not as valid of a source. It is a source, I gave you multiple ones, and you dismissed all of them because of one guy. I can't believe you're sticking to that narrative, maybe you are delusional.


What about Robert Doggart? The pastor who got was arrested for a terrorism plot against Muslims?
 

Fogdog

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1) “We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with winning.”
2) “Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don't think so! ...If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!”
3) “When someone crosses you, my advice is ‘Get Even!’ That is not typical advice, but it is real life advice. If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck! When people wrong you, go after those people because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I love getting even. I get screwed all the time. I go after people, and you know what? People do not play around with me as much as they do with others. They know that if they do, they are in for a big fight.”
4) “What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc. ...Many fabulous people come in from Mexico and our country is better for it. But these people are here legally, and are severely hurt by those coming in illegally.”
5) “Protect the downside and the upside will take care of itself.....I happen to be very conservative in business. I always go into a deal anticipating the worst. If you plan for the worst -- if you can live with the worst -- the good will always take care of itself.”
6) “People who think achieving success is a linear A-to-Z process, a straight shot to the top, simply aren’t in touch with reality. There are very few bona fide overnight success stories. It just doesn’t work that way. Success appears to happen overnight because we all see stories in newspapers and on TV about previously unknown people who have suddenly become famous. But consider a sequoia tree that has been growing for several hundred years. Just because a television crew one day decides to do a story about that tree doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before.”
7) "I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. I've been challenged by so many people, and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness. And to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either."
8)Experience taught me a few things. One is to listen to your gut, no matter how good something sounds on paper. The second is that you’re generally better off sticking with what you know. And the third is that sometimes your best investments are the ones you don’t make.”
9) “I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers. No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen. ...One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jet fighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.” -- Donald Trump in 2000
10) “In the make-believe world you will automatically get paid what you are worth. The real world doesn’t work that way. You get paid what you are worth only when the person you are dealing with has no other choice.”
Wow, you sure did a lot of research to post this. Come to think of it, why did you post this? I don't know any more about Trump after reading it than I did before. Because you can't judge a politician based upon what he SAYS. You need to judge him on what he does. Like, borrow billions and declare bankruptcy, all the while touting his great work. Dude, he's going to do the same to the US. He's going to run up the deficit just like GWB did by cutting taxes and raising spending. That's what Republicans DO. They SAY otherwise but borrow and spend is what they do. Meanwhile his odious statements regarding minorities is just race and religious baiting to get attention and gather a small group of zealots into a political base.
 

Fogdog

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He's being sued for fraud now in California and in New York the Attorney General is looking into fraud charges with his "Trump University."
Too funny this. One benefit is that Trump will have to spend time away from minority-baiting to vilify the lawyers shedding light on one of his money-making frauds. I wouldn't be surprised if other frauds of his begin to come to light.
 

3N1GM4

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Wow, you sure did a lot of research to post this. Come to think of it, why did you post this? I don't know any more about Trump after reading it than I did before. Because you can't judge a politician based upon what he SAYS. You need to judge him on what he does. Like, borrow billions and declare bankruptcy, all the while touting his great work. Dude, he's going to do the same to the US. He's going to run up the deficit just like GWB did by cutting taxes and raising spending. That's what Republicans DO. They SAY otherwise but borrow and spend is what they do. Meanwhile his odious statements regarding minorities is just race and religious baiting to get attention and gather a small group of zealots into a political base.
I am voting for bernie, I hope trump doesnt have a chance to ruin anything. Just ran across a site with 25 trump quotes, no research.
 

NLXSK1

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I used Uganda as an example of a law that is based in Christianity that causes violence today - exactly what you asked for

Now you're trying to change the subject so you can continue to deny it without admitting you were wrong
No, you put up something relatively unrelated. Having a country which is primarily christian does not immediately mean the law is religious. If you read the context it says against nature, not against god or buddah or allah.

So your example did not suport your argument. Of course you will ignore this and continue to blunder along no matter how many people point out your error because your ideology eclipses your IQ.
 

FauxRoux

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Recommend a fascinating course I took in my senior year in college, an elective course just to get the hours - Comparative Religions. It was taught by a practicing Methodist who admitted he was an agnostic in class. Could not believe he had the balls to admit it. Those were the old days when PC hadn't yet been engineered and used as a destructive tool by libtards.

The course/book began with the ancient worship of things that one could not explain in logical concrete terms, like the worship of the sun, or rock, or tree and then proceeded to a comprehensive review and study of every major and minor religion of today....how and by whom it was founded, the principles, ethics, laws, etc.

Religions were founded for social and individual control. I wrote a college paper on Christianity and how it uses certain covert means of controlling others, like you child, thru guilt or fear - "Johnny, if you don't quit stealing candy God is not going to like you and will send you to hell"

Reward & punishment psychological mechanisms used for control. Ten Commandments are a good example. it is those tenets that American civil and criminal law is based upon.

That's why Shariah Law is such a dangerous and powerful influence on many Muslims. It's all about intolerance and violence against those outside of The Islamic Herd.
Nice...Ive taken a few of those courses. Western civ...comparitive religion. philosophy of Eastern religions..even ethics of religions ...butfor the love of EVERYTHING...if you see a class with "ethics" in the title DONT TAKE IT! it will fuck with you...you go in like " yay i get to learn good vs evil through logical deduction"...you come out going " well maybe its ok to eat a LITTLE bit of human brains" although in the context of religions it DID make some things make sense....even if not in real world application. Its all fascinating.
 
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