Down to Earth Ferts

zombywolf

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Anyone use just DTE ferts in Promix for an entire crop and just water? Thinking about starting the pots with Bio Live for the first month of veg, then trying to figure out where to go from there. I can see going to the Rose and Flower fert as a top dress after the 2nd week of flower to the end What makes sense in the middle and as an amendment to the flower fert?
 

DancesWithWeeds

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Anyone use just DTE ferts in Promix for an entire crop and just water? Thinking about starting the pots with Bio Live for the first month of veg, then trying to figure out where to go from there. I can see going to the Rose and Flower fert as a top dress after the 2nd week of flower to the end What makes sense in the middle and as an amendment to the flower fert?
I use Down to Earth and Roots organic. What kind of mix are you using?
 

DancesWithWeeds

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One thing about DTE is the boxes are so big that you might want to be serious about making big batches. After the first year it's not so bad but to buy all the ingredients for most recipes cost quite a bit.

After the first year there seems to be a lot of stuff left over but not enough for the next batch. Like, I have enough left over that I'm locked into it, but not enough for a batch. It will cost more to make than just changing to nutes @Budzbuddha said.
 

Stiickygreen

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Anyone ever gone this kinda route? Good company. Mom/Pop gig. Seems like a good guy. Knows weed. Dunno how it shakes out on price...but you can buy what you need. Lotsa goodies here if you've never visited before.

 

dropshot

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Anyone ever gone this kinda route? Good company. Mom/Pop gig. Seems like a good guy. Knows weed. Dunno how it shakes out on price...but you can buy what you need. Lotsa goodies here if you've never visited before.

Yes. I highly recommend KiS. I put the kit together myself cuz I was mixing 18 cu ft of base soil. There is a ton of info out there on coots mix, but you wouldn't want to use that with Promix. The coots mix is based on a 1:1:1 base ratio of Peat: Aeration: Compost.
 

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Gro-n-again

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One thing about DTE is the boxes are so big that you might want to be serious about making big batches. After the first year it's not so bad but to buy all the ingredients for most recipes cost quite a bit.

After the first year there seems to be a lot of stuff left over but not enough for the next batch. Like, I have enough left over that I'm locked into it, but not enough for a batch. It will cost more to make than just changing to nutes @Budzbuddha said.

It is costly, I've bought a bunch thru the years, big batches, lots of boxes. Until one day I noticed that Espoma plant-tone and tomato-tone had all of the ingredients that I was buying in the boxes, but for a lot less.

It's espoma 100% now, I don't think the plants can tell a difference.
 

weedstoner420

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It is costly, I've bought a bunch thru the years, big batches, lots of boxes. Until one day I noticed that Espoma plant-tone and tomato-tone had all of the ingredients that I was buying in the boxes, but for a lot less.

It's espoma 100% now, I don't think the plants can tell a difference.
Another satisfied Espoma user over here, too. Lately it's been tomato-tone for flower and bio-tone for veg/moms
 

DancesWithWeeds

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Another satisfied Espoma user over here, too. Lately it's been tomato-tone for flower and bio-tone for veg/moms
Another satisfied Espoma user over here, too. Lately it's been tomato-tone for flower and bio-tone for veg/moms
I'm ready to change. Most of my grows are outdoors so not to worried about nutes. I'm goiing natural. That's how I raise my veggis. If you live on a farm there's no need for chemicals. I found out that it's not necessary to spend a lot of money to raise pot.
 

weedstoner420

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I'm ready to change. Most of my grows are outdoors so not to worried about nutes. I'm goiing natural. That's how I raise my veggis. If you live on a farm there's no need for chemicals. I found out that it's not necessary to spend a lot of money to raise pot.
Exactly! My goal is to grow organically and get as much stuff as I can from the local hardware store or nursery.

I figure weed is just another flowering annual crop, if the Ace Hardware up the street sells everything you need to grow tomatoes or peppers successfully, that should be more than sufficient for growing weed...
 

Rivendell

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Another satisfied Espoma user over here, too. Lately it's been tomato-tone for flower and bio-tone for veg/moms

Exactly! My goal is to grow organically and get as much stuff as I can from the local hardware store or nursery.

I figure weed is just another flowering annual crop, if the Ace Hardware up the street sells everything you need to grow tomatoes or peppers successfully, that should be more than sufficient for growing weed...

I have been using Bio Tone Starter+ and Tomato Tone for years now. Simple and Cheap!

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DancesWithWeeds

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How about soil? These are house plants grown in Miracle-Gro potting soil. They are being fed runoff from some old frutilizer that got wet. Hulkberry autos.

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When the frut tea is gone it will be one of the things mentioned above.
 

zombywolf

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Hi zombywolf!
I am curious about your method. What do you water with?
Thx!
Mostly water, with occasional tablespoon of Neptune Harvest Tomato or Rose, depending on whether veg or flower is going on. I have pretty much settled on a dry mix of DTE BioLive at 2 tablespoons per gal, Bat Guano at 2 teaspoons per gallon, 4 Jobe sticks per container and 1 tablespoon of oyster shell at transplantation in 3 gal pots. For flower, top dressing with DTE Rose at 2 tablespoons per gallon twice during flower, add new Jobe sticks and water with occasional Neptune Rose at 1 tablesoon per gallon.
 

skink#1

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I run alot of DTE in my soil mix but use other stuff I had sitting around like kelp meal and gypsum from Espoma. Right now I'm starting to think about amendments in terms of how do they affect the taste of the flower. I used more oyster shell Lime my new grow than what I know to do from outdoor growing. Too much lime affects taste and nutrient uptake. But I am keen on experimenting and seeing how the container plants do. Some growers have reported using higher lime amounts than I do and I want to see even though it goes against my method. Someone above said 1 tablespoon per 3 gal. That is right in my experience. I used more than that. Subsequently my soil pH is too high.
 

skink#1

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I'm a big fan of their 3-2-2 vegan as a starter fertilizer. I'm glad to see someone using rose mix, the ratios and ingredients look good.
I didn't have any problems from excessive oyster shell as described above.
 
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