Drip hydro nutrient vs Athena vs Jack
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kratosxxl
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U dont but will extra micros hurt ? Today i tried jack finish 5.4 gr per gall with 10ml per gall athena fade , lets see how it goes
kratosxxl
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At what rate ? 1gr per gall ? But now we are back to the same point as with gh trio or any liquid fert , instead of multiple bottles multiple salts , main reason i switched to jacks was simplicity 321
well thats not true anymore. Again you dont have too one can just go all the way to the end with 321 but not sure if u will get everything out of grow room (quantity , quality )Sickofitall420247
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Athena costs like 8 cents a gallon to make.
k0rps
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Depending on which week in the bloom cycle added:At what rate ? 1gr per gall ? But now we are back to the same point as with gh trio or any liquid fert , instead of multiple bottles multiple salts , main reason i switched to jacks was simplicity 321
2.5-2.8g jacks hydro 5-12-26
1.6-2g cal nit
0.5-1g cal sulf
0.5-1g mg sulf
(Added 0.5-1g mpk during swell)
If you haven't already, check out an elemental ppm calculator. There's a pretty good excel spreadsheet floating around this site from a few years ago. Really helps to get things dialed in.
k0rps
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Comparing to Jacks at 0.2 cents
kratosxxl
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So i dont know ca if i mentioned but cost is not the problem for me. Im not a commercial grower and i dont have 100 lights. So even if it cost a bit more but gives better quality and weight im all in. Jack is amazing but u wont get the weight and quality compared to liquid ferts and not because they are liquid its because their line uses humic/fulvic acids , emzymes , tricanatroll etc.
kratosxxl
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But jack is way to general use fert
k0rps
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If you're looking for a 2 part quality lineup then look into King Solomon nutrients.
nxsov180db
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You could use calcium chloride for the calcium.
beefninja97
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jack's is under 5 cents a gallon at full strength part a, including calnite and epsom. I haven't gone higher than 60% or so.
nxsov180db
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This is why I like mixing my own salts, my only source of N in bloom is from calcium nitrate.
Drop That Sound
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I would ask around and get some samples of the drip line, or whatever else you want to try out..
Then, make sure to do a 3 way side by side battle, and let us know what works best!
Then, make sure to do a 3 way side by side battle, and let us know what works best!
kratosxxl
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I might just do gh 3 part good old tested fert
newbplantgrower420
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Kratos back from the dead?
I use Jacks 321. Tried Athena for 2 runs. I dont like how it their A clumps up....turns into a rock and its 3x the price in this tough market.
I cant remember if Jacks v Athena gives better quality. Jacks is just cheaper and more convenient to use for me. Gives me better yield too.
Masterblend also came out with a 0-12-24 bag so you can control the N. Someone should look into that and try it out.
I use Jacks 321. Tried Athena for 2 runs. I dont like how it their A clumps up....turns into a rock and its 3x the price in this tough market.
I cant remember if Jacks v Athena gives better quality. Jacks is just cheaper and more convenient to use for me. Gives me better yield too.
Masterblend also came out with a 0-12-24 bag so you can control the N. Someone should look into that and try it out.
waterproof808
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Athena pro is meant to be mixed into a stock solution so you don’t have to worry about it clumping up. I do agree that it is way too expensive, I also don’t like that I have to adjust the ph with Athena and I never had to with jacks because it would be 6.1ph for me if I mixed it to 1.6ec.
Nizza
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I really like this... I have mega crop A and B, You're saying just figure out the ratio of PPM of stocks A-B-C and then go from there? So I can go as far as making the concentrated solutions different strengths to achieve a 50-50 blend into my res at whatever PPM I want? Is it really that simple? I've been using GH trio now in my DTW coco because it is so easy and stable, but It would be nice to use some of the megacrop I have sitting around, it would be easier if it was a liquid