Drug test for welfare

Corso312 · Jun 28, 2012

Gastanker said:
Handouts are not the same as being reimbursed for your time. For instance if the government contracts with the company you work for you are recieving tax dollars... that's not the same as receiving handouts.

Really? it feels like a handout to me.

Corso312 · Jun 28, 2012

What would help is no more Soda..candy and junk food for on stamps.

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

Corso312 said:
Really? it feels like a handout to me.

Really? So if you're a garbage man and work really hard your entire life its the same as sitting at home?

Corso312 · Jun 28, 2012

Shit, in Chicago there are 3-4 garbage men on a single truck...I look at the private companies in the suburbs and there is one fucking guy per truck...he drives and controls the boom and collects garbage..you tell me?

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

The guy in the suburbs' company is receiving government money... They are contracted through the city.

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

How about everyone that works at Boeing? Boeing is contracted by the government and receives a huge portion of their income from the US. They all lazy asses? The underpaid court clerk that holds terrible hours for shitty pay? The janitors?

Corso312 · Jun 28, 2012

but it is one guy..why can one guy do a 4 man job 10 miles away?..it seems to me 3 of those guys are just collecting a check and getting a handout.

shrxhky420 · Jun 28, 2012

Gastanker said:
If you are on welfare you are having an economic crisis right? If you are having an economic crisis you should cut back on spending right? To cut back on spending you get rid of luxuries right? Are drugs luxuries? Are they expensive luxuries? Are they habit forming luxuries?

Now think about the people who are habitually on welfare. Are they the type that have contributed lots of taxes? Are they only receiving back the amount they contributed? What about the type of people that use drugs and are habitually on welfare? That would prefer to use drugs and lose welfare than to go sober for a few months. There are government sponsored rehab programs...

I'm not refuting anyone's rights to welfare but if you can afford drugs then you have a surplus of money as drugs are not necessary for survival for the typical person.

Too funny.

so let's spend even more tax payers dollars to catch less then 5% of the welfare recipients. either way the tax payers lose and much more so if we had just let them have the money... Florida ended up losing $200,000 on this whole thing to catch less than 2% of the welfare recipients. yea makes financial sense to me... I want to vote you into office... stay high

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

Corso312 said:
but it is one guy..why can one guy do a 4 man job 10 miles away?..it seems to me 3 of those guys are just collecting a check and getting a handout.

I doubt it. Think about a suburb versus a city... It's MUCH more than 4x as dense than the suburbs.

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

shrxhky420 said:
so let's spend even more tax payers dollars to catch less then 5% of the welfare recipients. either way the tax payers lose and much more so if we had just let them have the money... Florida ended up losing $200,000 on this whole thing to catch less than 2% of the welfare recipients. yea makes financial sense to me... I want to vote you into office... stay high

You must have missed my very first post:

Gastanker said:
Everyone that works for the gov is drug tested...

I wouldn't be opposed except that it would likely cost us more than it would save. If you need the government to pay your bills then you shouldn't have enough surplus to spend on luxuries like drugs. But IMO you shouldn't be able to have a smart phone nor cable TV and collect either. "Help I can't pay rent/feed my kids but I have a $300/month TV bill, $120/month cell phone bill, and $500 a month electric bill because I grow pot - thank the lord for the CARE program otherwise it would be $2000/month."

Is Florida a big welfare state? (honestly don't know and too lazy to look it up) I think they have pretty strict drug laws as well.

shrxhky420 · Jun 28, 2012

Gastanker said:
You must have missed my very first post:

Is Florida a big welfare state? I think they have pretty strict drug laws as well.

big enough to lose 200,000 on stupid shit like this...
stay high

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

shrxhky420 said:
big enough to lose 200,000 on stupid shit like this...
stay high

200,000 is a tiny tiny tiny tiny number. You realize that right? To be honest I would be in total support if each state would only loose 200k.

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

lol. Yup, I would totally give a half a cent to discourage abuse of the system.

Hell, I'll contribute my part and yours and contribute a whole penny.

shrxhky420 · Jun 28, 2012

Gastanker said:
200,000 is a tiny tiny tiny tiny number. You realize that right? To be honest I would be in total support if each state would only loose 200k.

so it's ok to lose $200,000??? you're ok with this? any finacial lose is bad no matter how small the dollar amount... that 200,000 could have been spent on creating jobs for those on welfare... but no let's lose the money instead. makes a lot of sense to me... stay high

bigfattone420 · Jun 28, 2012

Why don't they test dumb folks/sheeple like yourself who started this topic?.They ought to test the racist skinheads in Germany.....Why don't they test the crooks who run these banks,test the crooks on wall street who put this economy in the dire straits,test the crooks who polluted the gulf,so on,so forth..Why they don't test rich MF'ers....( they started testing in Fla for welfare benifits a while back )..They found less than 2% of people tested positive...

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

shrxhky420 said:
so it's ok to lose $200,000??? you're ok with this? any finacial lose is bad no matter how small the dollar amount... that 200,000 could have been spent on creating jobs for those on welfare... but know let's lose the money instead. makes a lot of sense to me... stay high

You've got to be kidding me. You apparently have no idea of the value of money in government terms. $200,000 is nothing. It wouldn't get you any program, isn't going to create any jobs. And where are these figures on Florida? Can I have a link? How do we know how many people didn't file false claims because of the law? If could have saved the state millions...

bigfattone420 · Jun 28, 2012

BS ...Another one drinking the stupid-aid....

shrxhky420 · Jun 28, 2012

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/state-losing-money-drug-testing-welfare-recipients-applications-drop

stay high

Cut.Throat. · Jun 28, 2012

shrxhky420 said:
so it's ok to lose $200,000??? you're ok with this? any finacial lose is bad no matter how small the dollar amount... that 200,000 could have been spent on creating jobs for those on welfare... but no let's lose the money instead. makes a lot of sense to me... stay high

If they can spend $800,000 on a PARTY, I think they can drug test some scummers.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/04/gsa-threw-800000-party-and-all-you-got-was-bill/50663/

Easy answer: Make the applicants pay for the tests.

Gastanker · Jun 28, 2012

shrxhky420 said:
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/state-losing-money-drug-testing-welfare-recipients-applications-drop

stay high

Wow... the first fucking line, you have to be kidding me: "The tests have had a net cost to the state but the state has also seen a decline in the number of applicants appears."

Guess how much CA has spent on road projects in the past three months?

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