Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

tom__420 said:

Looking real nice dude
I love the detail you put in with the ppm, pH, temps etc
It really makes this journal a joy to follow unlike some others I am subscribed to
Keep up the top notch stuff cruze

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Thanks Bud,

Yea my memory is not what it used to be and by recording as much detail as I can helps out later. You see once the grow is finished and I get results I go back and see when I did what and how much.

That way I can try something new or modify something and have a previous grows information to compare with. Like next grow I am going to use the same strain but go with a new Sun Argo 400 watt HPS to compare to the CMH. Sure there will be a few small variables but in the end I can compare weight and quality of smoke.

The floro grow is there to do the same thing. I doubt I am going to get the yield I want but at least I will have some data. I have a couple 250 watt bulbs and cheap hoods in storage. I will need a ballast but I want to try that too. Maybe 2 250 watts like two feet apart compared to a 400 watt. I was looking at a ballast that will run two lights but it is a bit expensive right now.

BooMeR242 said:

diggin the scrog setup still trips me out on ur setup.
ya gardners are shady they fuckn clipped part of my White widow thinkin i wouldnt noticed. motherfckrs karma will get them

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Cool Man,
Yea, I wonder what it would take to set up an electrified fence?
Zap those fuckers. LOL

haha thatd b nice but im moving in a couple months and doin a indoor grow from now on i figure since ill have the room for it. but security will still be tight

where have u seen this single ballast to power double lamps u speak of? sounds interesting. save space and heat id hope. maybe money too. just wondeirng the effectiancy tho too? 120v or 240v? jc

BooMeR242 said:

haha thatd b nice but im moving in a couple months and doin a indoor grow from now on i figure since ill have the room for it. but security will still be tight

where have u seen this single ballast to power double lamps u speak of? sounds interesting. save space and heat id hope. maybe money too. just wondeirng the effectiancy tho too? 120v or 240v? jc

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So far all I have found has been the 600 and 250 watt ballasts.

Lumatek makes the 600 and I think it was Galaxy who made the 250 watt.
I was thinking of getting one and then getting four bulbs and a relay.
Run the ballast 24/7 and flip between flower rooms every 12 hours.

Heres a link to the Lumatek: Click here

ya were using the lumatek 600ws right now but ill have to check into it thnx

instead of two 250w, could you get away with two 400w in cooltubes? or even a 400w, and two 250s?

not to thread jack but dude PG ur avatar is trippin me out haha. ur old one did too but this one is wow

BooMeR242 said:

not to thread jack but dude PG ur avatar is trippin me out haha. ur old one did too but this one is wow

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Yea man, Thats one phreaky fuckin goat.

Week 14

[youtube]9IwuYnzDdgo[/youtube]

cruzer101 said:

Week 14

[youtube]9IwuYnzDdgo[/youtube]

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Video link doesn't seem to work. Something wrong with Youtube?

That didnt work?
It worked on my end. I did try and shorten the link up a bit maybe that is it.

Heres Week 14 again,

[youtube]9IwuYnzDdgo&hl=en&fs[/youtube]


Less then a week from harvest.
I realize they could go another week or two but Oct 10th is the day. That will be ten weeks from when I flipped and this is suppose to be an eight week cycle. This next flower period will be done in eight weeks. No widows and a few more lumen's.

BooMeR242 said:

not to thread jack but dude PG ur avatar is trippin me out haha. ur old one did too but this one is wow

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cruzer101 said:

Yea man, Thats one phreaky fuckin goat.

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haha, yeah its pretty out there. what can i say, i'm a wierd dude. I've been goofing around with picnik.com too much i guess. that site is the shit (edit photos w/out even signing up at all)

cruzer - great video, those buds are looking hefty. If you were thinking about removing more leaf, maybe it will help that my experiment got a better yield off of the leaf-removed plant. when they'r dry i'll get a smoke comparison.

I was looking at your vid
and thought that you should consider
removing most of the sunleaves.

I ran my WW for 16 weeks.
the last 6 weeks without any nutes at all, just plain RO.
I was marvelous smoke..so smooth.

I did take some buds at about 10 weeks and it was just as good but not as smooth.
Here is a picture of the first cut top bud.

Here is after the long RO flush

cruzer101 said:

That didnt work?
It worked on my end. I did try and shorten the link up a bit maybe that is it.

Heres Week 14 again,

[youtube]9IwuYnzDdgo&hl=en&fs[/youtube]

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Lookin good! Can't wait to see what your yield is.

Hey guys,

Thanks for the input, Yea, it seems on this grow there is no end to the leaf.
Every day for a week now I have been taking a few handfuls of fan leaves.
I will take even more tonight when the lights go on.

Remove the sun leaf huh? I thought I was suppose to leave those. OK, will do.

So whats the deal here with the ppms? I have always used water to flush with and had to change it out a few times as the ppms rise but they have been staying low. Once I top off with R/O the PPMs have stayed at 150.

Is it the clearex?
Did that do in one day what takes a week to do with just water?

I plan on swapping the res to straight R/O tonight and finishing with that.
I wont be able to ph it unless it picks up some salts.

Is it true you can mess up your ph meter in plain R/O water?

I looks like you are harvesting early. I let my widows go for 11 weeks, and was still cutting them early. Time frames from breeders are just refrence. Let the buds tell you when your done. At 11 weeks, my trichomes were mostly cloudy, some amber, some clear. I wouldn't harvest unless most of the trichomes are at least cloudy, preferably 10-50% amber. Widow can take forever to finish, just dont want you to cut your only widow harvest early if you aren't groing it next time.

Yes it is true that RO will ruin your pH probe.

Once you are happy with the size of the buds
switch to RO and that is all.

I flush the RO out and refill again every week
but after a week the tds will usually be 000.

The plant will consume the nutrients it needs
from the stores in the Sunleaves and roots.

I would leave a few sunleaves on each plant.

When the sunleaves start to give up their nutrients to the buds
the leaves will start to turn dark and/or yellow.

The buds need light and food.

How much longer do you want to run this grow.

You can make it finish pretty quick without food,
or you can keep feeding and get the buds dense.

There are two products that I like to use during this phase,
AN Hammerhead and DutchMaster Potash +

The Hammer head is 0-9-18 nitrogen/phosphorus/potassium
The Potash + is 1-5-11 nitrogen/phosphorus/potassium
(plus some micros)

I use the Potash + alone at 150 ppm for a week
and then switch to the Hammerhead @ 150ppm
until I am ready for the RO only flush.
(keep the pH5.6 as long as you are using the p+)

Pour the light to em
and grow some buds.
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Integra21 said:

I looks like you are harvesting early. I let my widows go for 11 weeks, and was still cutting them early. Time frames from breeders are just refrence. Let the buds tell you when your done. At 11 weeks, my trichomes were mostly cloudy, some amber, some clear. I wouldn't harvest unless most of the trichomes are at least cloudy, preferably 10-50% amber. Widow can take forever to finish, just dont want you to cut your only widow harvest early if you aren't groing it next time.

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Yes, this is early for the widow. I have grown it three times before this and cut early every time.
So I figure I have to stop growing it with other strains that finish faster.

Although I have plenty of Widow stash it still is a shame not to finish it correctly. However the Train Wreck is done.
I need to finish that right and the widow is just along for the ride.

My clones are topped and at 5 inches and the roots have hit the water. I expect them to be at ten inches in a week. I want to flower by 12 inches this next grow and I ordered a new Argo sun 400 watt bulb to test against the CMH

Maybe I can extend the flush a week or so. It depends on the height of the clones.

Earl said:

How much longer do you want to run this grow.

You can make it finish pretty quick without food,
or you can keep feeding and get the buds dense.

There are two products that I like to use during this phase,
AN Hammerhead and DutchMaster Potash +

The Hammer head is 0-9-18 nitrogen/phosphorus/potassium
The Potash + is 1-5-11 nitrogen/phosphorus/potassium
(plus some micros)

I use the Potash + alone at 150 ppm for a week
and then switch to the Hammerhead @ 150ppm
until I am ready for the RO only flush.
(keep the pH5.6 as long as you are using the p+)

Pour the light to em
and grow some buds.
.

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I am growing buds man. I just cant shoot a movie worth a shit.
Let me see if I can get a better pic.

Sounds good I'll pick up some Hammer head and Potash + for the next grow.
I agree these could use a bit more bulk but they are bigger then what you can see and I am running out of time. I don't want to over grow the next round.

Yea, like I haven't learned my lesson. I have Purple Kush and Train wreck.
I don't mind because Both are early producers of trichomes and although Train Wreck is earlier finisher the Kush will be full of trichs. Really I just want to see what PK will do in aeroponics. I have a couple in hydroton and although they look great there isn't much size. I will put those in the center and the TW on the sides.

If I can get size then I will do a grow of just PK and fine tune it.

and to back you up on that, PK is amazing even when trichs are all unturned! all the flavor is there, minus the heavy punch. Most people i know pull pk when the hairs have turned, about 2-3 weeks later it purples.