Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

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cruzer101

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I don't think there are any health concerns really. Its about the quality of smoke.

Have you ever smoked weed in a joint that snap crackled and popped? The doob would constantly run? or burn up the side?
That is weed that isn't flushed properly. Not to mention the taste. You can taste the nutes. even if you cure for months its still there.

If you grow outside in the dirt without adding nutes there is no need to flush.
When you grow indoors, with a small amount of soil and add nutes then you do need to remove as much as you can in the end.

In hydro yes. There is no soil. You absolutely do need to flush or else...
 
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cruzer101

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Today I got to thinking about the light I have been looking at the trichomes with.
I deceided to open the cab and let some reflected sunlight in and get a better idea.

About the same as I saw with the ceramic metal halide.




Now I notice more of the lower pistils have turned and I see the veins in the leaf turning so I think I am alright.
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BooMeR242

BooMeR242

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nice trich shot cruzer and ya i agree with the flush theory. i asked lots of peeps about my emergency flush and fellow growers and the buddys at the hydro store said no real need to flush if ur doin organic soil. but inside ferts with chem and hydro im sure u would at least a week. or use final flush for two days ure done
 
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cruzer101

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BooMeR242 said:
nice trich shot cruzer and ya i agree with the flush theory. i asked lots of peeps about my emergency flush and fellow growers and the buddys at the hydro store said no real need to flush if ur doin organic soil. but inside ferts with chem and hydro im sure u would at least a week. or use final flush for two days ure done
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How could you type with those sticky fingers?
 
MyGTO2007

MyGTO2007

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Damn Dude !!!!!just catching up on some journals
Looking Good
Im puting My 2nd Gen into flower on the 10th Just 2 WW and 2 SLH for now........Just took clones Yesterday 1ww 1 slh..............
i think i will try The Church too
:eyesmoke::eyesmoke::eyesmoke::eyesmoke:
 
DST

DST

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Hey Cruzer, just stoppin by to see the progress, stick a carrot in the bud and it would be a snowman!!! awesome!! very frosty indeed.
 
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cruzer101

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Hey guys,

Thanks for keeping an eye out for me. I will finish one of these days...

This Train wreck is loaded with trichomes, it grows differently too. I am not sure about weight but from what see there are many more calyxes making little towers out of the main cola instead of wrapping around it.
 
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cruzer101

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10-09-09

Temps 73 res 66°
PPM 40
PH n/a


The girls drank another gallon, PPM 40 I left it alone.

Figured I better finish the reflector. I want to get it up right after I cut.





I joined them together





Then made a cross brace. and mounted it.
This will be the focus mode. I will keep it like this with a 45° angle when the plants are small.





Then drilled a couple more holes so i could adjust it out.





This is fully extended.





I left just enough space so I could still hang the cfls if I need to.


The next batch is coming along fine.
The kush is a little shorter then I would like to see.









These were topped about a week ago





Check out the stalks on these girls, See that root knot?





The lower buds.







The floro cab has been on 500ppm of fox farm nutes.
We got some little colas here.
I started flowering when they were like two weeks from clone. I was thinking sog but that didnt happen, scrog is what we got. and a small one.





Got some buds though.





So far from what I have seen, I would say these t5 veg much better than flower.
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Earl

Earl

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I haven't found anyone that was happy trying to flower with t5s.
They work really well for veg though.
How many watts is your t5 ?
 
Earl

Earl

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I'm thinking you need to build your cabinet from t5 fixtures
so you got them boxed in with light everywhere.
 
phreakygoat

phreakygoat

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yo cruzer, very nice update. that TW just looks killer!
as for the kush, it likes to stay short and compact, and doesn't seem to stretch too much in flower. just my experience, interested to see your results.

so whats that big ass reflector for, are you gonna expand the top of the cab?
 
tmsculli

tmsculli

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Damn brother, you took my rinky dink reflector idea to a new level +rep for you sir. It's one thing to be creative and love DIY, but it's another to mesh that creativity and drive with doing it right. You even did a light reflection experiment that I am pretty sure no one really thought about showing other people before. Very nicely done Cruzer, very envious of your setup sir.
 
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cruzer101

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Earl said:
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How many watts is your t5 ?
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Its a 4 bulb setup. They are 24" long. I think they are 22 watt high output bulbs so its an 96 watts. Puts out 8000 lumnes.
I have 4 18 watt cfls behind it. I figure I have about 13000 lumnes altogether.
Its my low power flower experiment.
 
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cruzer101

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phreakygoat said:
yo cruzer, very nice update. that TW just looks killer!
as for the kush, it likes to stay short and compact, and doesn't seem to stretch too much in flower. just my experience, interested to see your results.

so whats that big ass reflector for, are you gonna expand the top of the cab?
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LOL yea sure,

No bro, its going inside believe it or not.
I got a better idea on how to hang the fan. I will pick up about 1/2 inch and be much a more of a solid mount.

Then I am going to hang the cool tube on the reflector and hang them both on those reflector yo yo's so I can adjust it.
The reflector weighs 4.5 pounds and the cool tube was like 10 pounds so I am way under max capacity of 22 lbs the yo yos have.

Yea its big, it goes down about 12 inches on the sides at full extension but from here on out I will be using a screen and the overall height will be about a foot lower. I think it will work. What the hell, it only cost $20 If it don't work I will yank it and chalk it up as a learning experience.

I have to admit, your comment about extending the top of the cab has got me thinking about cutting a hole and mounting the fan up there... Its a tall cabinet in a fairly small room so you wouldn't see the fan case that well. I could gain 4 inches. hum.
 
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cruzer101

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tmsculli said:
Damn brother, you took my rinky dink reflector idea to a new level +rep for you sir. It's one thing to be creative and love DIY, but it's another to mesh that creativity and drive with doing it right. You even did a light reflection experiment that I am pretty sure no one really thought about showing other people before. Very nicely done Cruzer, very envious of your setup sir.
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That's a real nice thing to say.
Thank you.

I would have never thought of it had I not seen your DIY reflector in your journal.

That experiment you mentioned will be in effect during the grow. If you look closely the left side is curved more then the right. I left it that way on purpose to see if my theory is correct. Although I got more of a spread of light the smaller reflection may be more intense. we will find out if the right side does better then the left.

For everyone else reading this, what tmsculli is referring to is a post I made in his journal while we were both building reflectors.

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"Hey bud,

I was messin around last night with the reflection of the sheet metal and when you said you were trying to spread the light
I thought I would show you what I found out. When the metal is bent like a half circle VS spreading it out it does not reflect
as much. I turned off all the light in the room but one and tested it.



Check it out It seems like by flattening it out a bit I get much more reflection.




Now I am just using one light but i thought you might want to know this."
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See what I mean about the intensity?
I am not sure if by curving the surface the reflection is actually magnified.
It sure didn't seem like more light but I will find out.

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DenseBuds

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cruzer101 said:
So far from what I have seen, I would say these t5 veg much better than flower.
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Ya - I started out with T5s last year... It flowered and I smoked what I got, but it was really small and wispy. I think I would have needed like half a bedroom full of T5s to grow the amount I'm going to grow in my cab with the 400 HPS and some side lights.

Moved the T5s to another tent for veg... working great.
 
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cruzer101

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10-10-09

Temps 71 res 65°
PPMs 50
PH n/a

Water is down two gallons and ppms are at 50. If I were to add water I am sure It would drop to 20.
Seems like that shot of clearex sealed up the exchange between roots and nutes.

OK, Lights off. Thats it.

I should have some harvest shots tomorrow and a much better look at what i got and I will be able to give you a better opinion on the grow in general.
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