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cruzer101

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mikegreenthumb said:
damn that shit would damn near make me wanna cry i feel your pain bro
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It was my first time. yea it really sucks. Thanks man.

Earl said:
Looks like the cloner is working

Bummer about the mold

I would make butane honey oil out of it
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So you think some of that shit would get into water hash?
My bud has a honeybee.

tom__420 said:
It looks like the sprayer that came with the unit is a spinner type, although I hate those types. I like the regular EZ cloner sprayers, they seem to put out a much better mist than any spinning kind I have seen
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Good to know, I use the red and green sprayers but havent seen this work yet. I assume it works better under lower preasure then the reds do.

MyGTO2007 said:
the one that it comes with is a spinner type.....But they make better ones
the Daisy Cloner works just as good as any cloner....I guess You have To know what yer Doing!!
the ones that EZ-cloner come with (red ones) arnt spinners their Sprayers.....It doesnt have to be a mist,as long as the stem is getting wet!:eyesmoke::wall:
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Thanks for the tip, I dont think I have ever seen a spinner work. What kind did you end up with?

DenseBuds said:
The only thing you need to watch for with that daisy cloner is the res temp. If you keep it low, you'll do fine.
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Cool man, yea I have rooted a lot of clones with rooter cubes. That temp is important. For now I have a seedling heat mat for the winter months but no way to cool it... yet. maybe toss a powerhead in there to circulate and an airstone will do it.
 
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tom__420

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MyGTO2007 said:
No they do not need to be cut all up...they work just fine!!!!
How many times do i have to say it guys!!!

IF u know what yer doing it will work right out of the box!!!:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:
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No one is questioning your cloning abilities man, stop taking everything so personally I'm not even talking to you.... Roots don't like light so lightproofing the rez is obviously a smart thing to do. And as far as cutting the bottoms of the net cups off, it makes no sense to leave something that will block some of the spray especially with only one sprayer head
 
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cruzer101

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tom__420 said:
I would suggest cutting the bottoms off of the net cups so that the roots can get hit with a better spray. I think the bottom of the net cups would block some of the spray
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You know, I have cut the bottom out of some of my pots. I think there is less damage removing them. I did it when I aero rooted then transplanted to hydroton. I took them out of the pots no problem. I did it recently and didnt cut the bottoms out and lost some roots when I did.

MyGTO2007 said:
No they do not need to be cut all up...they work just fine!!!!
How many times do i have to say it guys!!!

IF u know what yer doing it will work right out of the box!!!:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:
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LOL gotcha bro.
I just like to tweek with things.

MyGTO2007 said:
every thing i do or make i KISS it

Keep
It
Stupid
Simple
:dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:
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Only way to go.
Hey buy the way, did you ever get that turntable working?
 
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MyGTO2007

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cruzer101 said:
You know, I have cut the bottom out of some of my pots. I think there is less damage removing them. I did it when I aero rooted then transplanted to hydroton. I took them out of the pots no problem. I did it recently and didnt cut the bottoms out and lost some roots when I did.



LOL gotcha bro.
I just like to tweek with things.



Only way to go.
Hey buy the way, did you ever get that turntable working?
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no i didnt went on to other things
bought my 2 1000's instead
but good luck with the cloner
 
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MyGTO2007

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tom__420 said:
No one is questioning your cloning abilities man, stop taking everything so personally I'm not even talking to you.... Roots don't like light so lightproofing the rez is obviously a smart thing to do. And as far as cutting the bottoms of the net cups off, it makes no sense to leave something that will block some of the spray especially with only one sprayer head
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Sorry Man just trying to help!!!!
Mine works fine without painting it
To each his own i guess......I dont like to see people fight with shit.....ROCK ON!!
 
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cruzer101

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Yea the mini hempys are working out pretty good. Only drawback I see is I have some standing water that is increasing humidity.
As long as there are no
bugs
I think it will work well.

Too bad about the mildew.
I guess I can let them go another week while this flushes but I dont want to go through another grow with powdery mildew. So when I harvest the upper girls I am gonna toss them and clean out the cab.
 
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mikegreenthumb

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so is all this talk about cloning and what method works best??
whats wrong with just plain ol oasis cubes or rockwool i get 100% with clone gel and oasis cubes easy as 1-2-3
 

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DenseBuds

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cruzer101 said:
Cool man, yea I have rooted a lot of clones with rooter cubes. That temp is important. For now I have a seedling heat mat for the winter months but no way to cool it... yet. maybe toss a powerhead in there to circulate and an airstone will do it.
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If it gets too hot, running it on a 1on/4off timer should help I've been told.
 
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cruzer101

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mikegreenthumb said:
so is all this talk about cloning and what method works best??
whats wrong with just plain ol oasis cubes or rockwool i get 100% with clone gel and oasis cubes easy as 1-2-3
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Yea, I got that down my friend. I have recently set up a tub with sprayers. more of an aero unit. When the clones are started in medium you have to put the medium in the 2 in net pot and it gets soaked by the sprayers. Rockwool will just fall apart and clog my sprayers, Rapid rooter cubes seem to stay together alright but I would rather just start them in neopream collars set in a 2 in pot. The idea is plug and play. I will have 2 flower tubs one veg tub and the cloner all 2 in net pots and can move them around.

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If it gets too hot, running it on a 1on/4off timer should help I've been told.
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tom__420 said:
Yup I use a 1min on 5min off recycle timer for my cloner
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Ya know, talking about timers. I didnt go aero for a long time cause I just didnt want to spend the money on a timer.
Well I did finally fork over the $80 or so but I found out that you can do it for less.
You know your basic timer with one on/off setting, well you know you can get them in 30 min increments. Did you know you can find them in 15 min increments too. I found one for $15.00 and they work for aeroponics. set it 15 on and 30 off, I am using that on the floro tub right now.

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I just changed it to 15 on and 45 off cause the rooter cubes never dry out and the protuding roots still look fine.
So far so good but when I get more roots I will go back to 15/30. This is the timer I started those GC clones in the mini hempy.
 

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tom__420

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Yeah I might look into something like that, right now I am just using a surge protector on the recycle timer so that I can use it for both the main unit and the cloner
They are close enough to do so now but in the future a different timer would be great
 
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cruzer101

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No problem Dense.

Yea Tom, I found myself in a similar situation. The timer is in the cab on the left and I have mounted these suckers to the wall so its kinda tough to get back there and run an extension cord from one to the other. I should have thought of that earlier.

Anyway, timer works pretty good.
 
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cruzer101

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Temps 78 res 68°
PPMs 260 PH 5.8

I been flushing the girls for 4 days now. PPMs started at 10 and have gone up to 260
I didnt use clearex this time because the plants were not healthy. The mildew and spidermites got them weak then the extra water from the treatment of mildew got into the buds and they died so I had to cut them off. There is still mold in there and its kinda a race to the finish but whatever I do get will not have nutes in it.

Heres some sad pics, not much left.







The GC in the mini hempy is starting to flower now. I just treated them so you dont see the mildew now but its there.






OK, well now we get to see how I fucked up my seedlings.
Sick for a few days then concentrating on the other cab I left the seedling go.
There over nuted and I been flushing them too.







This one looks like it dont want to grow any new growth.













Pretty stupid huh? I toasted them. about $140 worth of seed.
This is the perfect example of how NOT to do it.

OK I never done this before and would like to ask you guys your opinions.
So, what do I do with the survivors? Are they worth growing or will they be runts.

I forgot to mention what they went through, It had been at least 3 days when I checked the water. The ppms were 900 and the ph was 5.0
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Integra21

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cruzer101 said:
Temps 78 res 68°
PPMs 260 PH 5.8

I been flushing the girls for 4 days now. PPMs started at 10 and have gone up to 260
I didnt use clearex this time because the plants were not healthy. The mildew and spidermites got them weak then the extra water from the treatment of mildew got into the buds and they died so I had to cut them off. There is still mold in there and its kinda a race to the finish but whatever I do get will not have nutes in it.

Heres some sad pics, not much left.







The GC in the mini hempy is starting to flower now. I just treated them so you dont see the mildew now but its there.






OK, well now we get to see how I fucked up my seedlings.
Sick for a few days then concentrating on the other cab I left the seedling go.
There over nuted and I been flushing them too.







This one looks like it dont want to grow any new growth.













Pretty stupid huh? I toasted them. about $140 worth of seed.
This is the perfect example of how NOT to do it.

OK I never done this before and would like to ask you guys your opinions.
So, what do I do with the survivors? Are they worth growing or will they be runts.

I forgot to mention what they went through, It had been at least 3 days when I checked the water. The ppms were 900 and the ph was 5.0
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As long as they're still alive there is hope. Stress early on is argued alot, but as long as the genetics are good, putting the plants through some hardships and getting them to recover to perfect seems to make the plants a little stronger than if they were babied the whole time. My original White Widow seedlings were in bad shape when I got them, not really any better than yours, but with some tlc they turned out to be fantastic plants with no problems(hermies and whatnot). I would definetly say just fix the problems and see how they do. They might suprise you with how quickly they recover.
 
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mikegreenthumb

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damn thats fucked up sorry bro
what i would do is get the ph back to normal and run a low nute solution and back the lights and hope the make make it
 
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what was the pmm when you started. they look pretty mested up. but i bet you can bring them back. it might take a week or so but they will grow i bet. Either way it worth a try sense you have money in those seeds. i just fired up my cloner. with 2.5 gal of water with 20 ml of aguashield by botanicare. Its says 5-15 ml per gal so i went with 8 ml per gal. Lats time i use clonexs cloning solution. But this time i use power clone from botanicare as well. Its says 45-65 ml per gal, so i use 50 ml, pre gal. pmm after i let it mix good is at 470. ph 6.2. have check water temp yet. figure i would let it run a couple hours then check it. ill put clones in later tonight. im going to clone that white widow and northern lights, that stuff just looks allosome.
 
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cruzer101 said:
So, what do I do with the survivors? Are they worth growing or will they be runts.
I forgot to mention what they went through, It had been at least 3 days when I checked the water. The ppms were 900 and the ph was 5.0​
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Wait it out and go into recovery mode. As long as you let them grow till they start looking good all should be ok. Just dont flower with sick plants.... (learned the hard way). I hope it all pulls through for you man! :)


~I just found out that my new nutrients drop the ph WAY too much...LOL... After recalibrating my pen and such (as I should have from the very first switch) all seems to be recovering. PH alone can fuck plants up bad. I think my hps cab is recovering from the problem but things werent looking good for a couple days... especially since I was adding the normal amount of ph down... Glad I finally checked the ph of my mix:roll:
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