DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

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AeroLSTSKROGkinG

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Brandon0228 said:
I'm also a new member and not an expert, but would it not be better to wait after the full 48 hours? you want most of the molasses to have been consumed so you're not putting it into your system. Also if i remember the original post, he noted that the brew would be most diverse after this time period, meaning, more potent and more effective.. many more bennies per cup.
I'm speaking from a very basic scientific understanding of how this kind of thing works, so i could be mistaken
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ohh and this lush roots calls for 1 tbsp per gallon not 2 my mistake. here's what i found on there site.
Lush Roots 840 A beneficial tea to enhance root growth and plant yields. A superior blend of EndoMycorrhizae (100,00 props./lb), Trichoderma, Beneficial Bacteria and our own special mix of Organic Herbs.

Active ingredients
8% Humic Acid derived from lignite
16.3% Ascophyllum nodosum (Kelp)
9% Urtica dioica (Stinging Nettle)
9% Medicago sativa (Alfalfa)
Glomus intraradices - 55.0 propagules/gm
Glomus mosseae - 55.0 propagules/gm
Glomus aggregatum - 55.0 propagules/gm
Glomus etunicatum - 55.0 propagules/gm

Bacillus subtilis - 3,965,000 cfu/gm
Bacillus megaterium - 3,965,000 cfu/gm
Bacillus amyloliquefaciens - 3,965,000 cfu/gm
Bacillus pumilus - 3,965,000 cfu/gm
Bacillus licheniformis - 3,965,000 cfu/gm

Trichoderma harzianum - 495,594 cfu/gm
Trichoderma konigii - 495,594 cfu/gm
57.6% Inert Ingredients
looks to me to be a very good product and may be able to replace almost everything in heisenberg's tea but im not a pro either so i dont know... just seemed to me there was alot more bacteria count in lush roots then white shark witch ive read alot of people talk about in this forum and its way f**king cheaper its like half the price!!! I hate products that are that expensive when there's something out there better just makes me sick.
yes you are right brandon i thought about the molasses feeding the slime so i waited tell just under 48 hours and washed my buckets out with dawn dish soap, then put my baby's back on there nute schedule and introduced the bennie's at 1cup to 1gal. i will try and get some pictures posted today... you guys will feel my pain once you see these baby girls :/. spent a good amount of money on these seeds that weren't even feminized. Ive got Harlequin x Bilo strain, Skunk Hunt, Galactic Gilpin. Germinated 8 seeds of each strain out of 10 total for each strain. Sadly only 2 Galactic's made it thru but they are beautiful!! got 6 skunk hunts and 8 harlequin's haha.
 
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AeroLSTSKROGkinG

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par0dox said:
yes you are correct the molasses will feed the slime if it hasn't been mostly eaten from what I understand, hopefully he didn't put a full dose in.
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ya didn't think about that tell after i mixed it, but i put a full dose of molasses in the tea aswell 1tbsp per 2 1/2 gallons. hopefully there was enough bacteria to eat all that molasses in about 48 hours :/. Im crossing my finger's! I may just have to try and make another more potent bacterial tea.
 
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AeroLSTSKROGkinG

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IMAG00604.jpg IMAG00608.jpg IMAG00609.jpg IMAG00610.jpg This is 4 days after the beneficial bacteria were introduced. Looks like it is getting less dark brown and more lighter. Still some darks clumps thou. Hoping it will clear up thou!.. Also added more Lush Roots in the last tea i brewed at 1/2tbs per gallon. No bad results showed so i will keep it at this higher dosage to hopefully help kill that slime no problem. Thanks for all the input guys!
 
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gand3r

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AeroLSTSKROGkinG said:
View attachment 3410366 View attachment 3410367 View attachment 3410368 View attachment 3410369 This is 4 days after the beneficial bacteria were introduced. Looks like it is getting less dark brown and more lighter. Still some darks clumps thou. Hoping it will clear up thou!.. Also added more Lush Roots in the last tea i brewed at 1/2tbs per gallon. No bad results showed so i will keep it at this higher dosage to hopefully help kill that slime no problem. Thanks for all the input guys!
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The tea will fix your issues with the slime, how do they look now?

Aussiedwc said:
Any idea why I could have rot I've got 30w of air in my 5gal Dwc and its insulated and temps are below 68f
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As you have eliminated the two main cuprits it leaves another main reason.... Sugars/carbs that have been added into the feeding schedule, what are you feeding them?
 
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AeroLSTSKROGkinG

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gand3r said:
The tea will fix your issues with the slime, how do they look now?



As you have eliminated the two main cuprits it leaves another main reason.... Sugars/carbs that have been added into the feeding schedule, what are you feeding them?
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i will Show more pics later tonight but i have to head off for work in a sec. But they look better now, more new white growth.
 
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Aussiedwc

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gand3r said:
The tea will fix your issues with the slime, how do they look now?


just feeding Canna vega a+b silica and pythoff
As you have eliminated the two main cuprits it leaves another main reason.... Sugars/carbs that have been added into the feeding schedule, what are you feeding them?
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Sukid

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i have had root rot in the beginning of my growings
and SM-90 is a miracle it helps alot its not good when u have bennies in your system as it kills everything
 
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AeroLSTSKROGkinG

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Sukid said:
i have had root rot in the beginning of my growings
and SM-90 is a miracle it helps alot its not good when u have bennies in your system as it kills everything
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Sorry i haven't gotten any pics yet to update y'all because i have been very busy. I have now ran into powdery mildew just a couple days ago and went and picked up eagle 20 the yesterday. Dude at the store poured me a lil bottle of it and said it was behind the counter stuff at the time and only called it eagle so i wouldn't know the full name. he ended up selling me less then 1 OZ for $15 dollars said it was a cash transaction only. i laughed when he said that cu it just felt sketchy. Looked it up when i got home. you can buy 16 oz for $35.... Hopefully this little bit will do the trick haven't gotten to use it yet if anyone has had any past experience with Eagle 20 let me know how it worked out for you! As for that bennies in your system kills everything. i think you have been misled on information as everyone on this forum pretty much disagrees. From what i understand it kills certain things and promotes healthy life for other things, but my understanding is very slim hahaha.
 
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Heisenberg

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OneHitDone said:
Supposing there were a difference in taste, what would you attribute it to?
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I would suspect much of it has to do with user subjectivity. However, if blind tests were to produce something statistically significant, then my guess would be that soil contains some compounds not present in synthetic regimes that, while not making a difference in growth or potency, influence the terpene profile.
 
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Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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AeroLSTSKROGkinG said:
Sorry i haven't gotten any pics yet to update y'all because i have been very busy. I have now ran into powdery mildew just a couple days ago and went and picked up eagle 20 the yesterday. Dude at the store poured me a lil bottle of it and said it was behind the counter stuff at the time and only called it eagle so i wouldn't know the full name. he ended up selling me less then 1 OZ for $15 dollars said it was a cash transaction only. i laughed when he said that cu it just felt sketchy. Looked it up when i got home. you can buy 16 oz for $35.... Hopefully this little bit will do the trick haven't gotten to use it yet if anyone has had any past experience with Eagle 20 let me know how it worked out for you! As for that bennies in your system kills everything. i think you have been misled on information as everyone on this forum pretty much disagrees. From what i understand it kills certain things and promotes healthy life for other things, but my understanding is very slim hahaha.
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Although the slime is a long gone problem for me, I have been dealing with powdery mildew the last few months. I use h202 (3% diluted 50/50) to wash it off the leaves, and I am experimenting with a recipe from Dave of weednerd fame. 0.64 oz of potassium sorbate, 1.5 oz lemon juice and one packet of activated yeast diluted into 32 oz water. That makes a concentration of which one oz is further diluted into 32 oz water. Just mixed it yesterday so nothing to report except that I sprayed a few test plants and they tolerated it fine.

I was using sm-90 for a while. It kills the outbreak and protects plants for 7-10 days, but I feel it slows growth by blocking stomata.

Of course, just like the slime, the most important thing is to correct environmental conditions which encourage PM growth. My PM persists despite humidity levels under 50% and tons of airflow including several HEPA filters equipped with UV light, as well as the addition of silica to my nutes. Once my cycle is done I will empty and sterilize the room and then I plan to treat new plants with a weekly foliage spray of tea.
 
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I apologize, my pictures posted but my post didn't. What I am doing is an ebb and flow system using lava rocks as my medium. Had a few pulls with excellent results until unfortunately I got some bad advice from the hydro store guy and added Herculean harvest to my system and instantly turned my world upside down. I've been keeping the slime away with 1000ml of h2o2 in my 55 gallon resivoire every time I change nutrients. ( once a week). As you can guess my plants don't love the high dose but it's the only thing that will keep the slime away. My question is, do I use the original recipe on page one of this post (it's brewing as I type) or is it not good to use in an ebb and flow system??
 
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Nerper

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Riskyplay11 said:
I forgot to mention I am using CYCO nutrients, the full line.

Maybe I am using to much h2o2 possibly??
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Im using full cyco line for the first grow and ive had 1-2 issues and the BEGGININGS of this brown slim in my control res BUT since i started adding 1ml H202 per Liter ever 3 days the slime is gone water looking pristine one thing i have noticed with cyco tho is it goes (for lack of a better word) "funny" lol i took a sample of my res into the hydro guru and he said nothing abnormal treeat with peroxide and monitor.

if H202 is not working for u flip back to page one and follow Hiesenbergs recipe to the dot from what ive read in this god forsaken 195 page thread lol is it fucking works PERIOD

I intend to add no h202 next grow and just use this tea and we shall see

Good luck and keep it green

ooooo dont forget if ur using the tea DO NOT USE H202 u will kill dem beenies
 
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