DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

Cool, I remember reading that too, just wasn't sure if the beni's lived or ?? and maybe a sort of stasis....idk...........
Other than that I think I will start fresh with a inoculated res and system.... I started this battle thinking it would be simple and and I have a mess now.

Thanks for the replies

gman

Hey guys the tea is working great so far.. I just wanted to make sure that adding PH up and down is ok?? The orange and blue liquid.. Thanks in advance for the answer...

I add ph up/down to my Rez but not to the tea itself. And it still works great!! Good luck

budsMI said:

The tea in a refrigertor should last up to 10 days..... If it smells funky then it's prolly not good..

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.....yeah, I read that too. Just thought maybe the 'aerobic' bacteria might have an issue surviving without o2 in the refer(stasis?)...but idk.....we will see.

So I got MrHeisenberg's Tea all brewed up and went ahead and kept the plants I was gonna toss.....just to see how this goes....they actually were looking improved tonight
so I went ahead and did a half-ass flush and root rinse, ran the tea in there and put the ladies back in......saddest looking ladies I've ever had(and NO, no pics!) and I will be surprized to see if they survive and I 'll sure let you guys know(I may have been too sloppy flushing but wasn't investing any more time)..... I am going to fire up a 2' x 4' table tomorrow, inoculating it first and all with housing and clean vegged kids.
No more wind from me: Was just very pleased to find this thread and have been all over the web reading and have learned more than I really wanted too, lol....but hopefully it'll keep me going for some more fun grows--- I was really ready to just give up, after just under 20 yrs.....

Thank You Very Much for the recipe, Heisenberg, and everybody else for the help!!

If it wasn't for this tea my hydro growing days would be over.. I actually have several plants in soil because I'm tired of having sickly looking plants with sub par meds in the end... Been fighting my problem for 6 mos now and this tea seems to be doing the job,...

budsMI said:

Hey guys the tea is working great so far.. I just wanted to make sure that adding PH up and down is ok?? The orange and blue liquid.. Thanks in advance for the answer...

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No, grow critters in neutral water and then pH the res after you add them. Your Bens will love you for this.

My Rez (55 gallon) temp is low to mid 60's.. Should I add a heater to warm it up?

budsMI said:

My Rez (55 gallon) temp is low to mid 60's.. Should I add a heater to warm it up?

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I've always been told that that temp range is optimal! I would not add a heater.

Heisenberg said:

Right on the nose. Clean and sterilize as best you can, and then add already active bennies. Be careful that no organic material enters the res. This includes ph adjusters and any other additives, like superthrive. Brown gunk on the roots in not necessarily a bad thing, it could be humic acid. Mine will occasionally get patches of brown or black when they are younger, though it is temporary and does not stunt root growth. If a day goes by with no root growth what-so-ever, the slime is probably back. If you have slime coming back even after you use the tea, then you need to examine your methods. Tailoring things to suit your grow is fine, but you must first start with tried and true.

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No PH adjusters ?? Once tea is added to my rez(55 gallon) I can't add PH up ? Or I cant PH tea during brew cycle??

Downinit said:

I've always been told that that temp range is optimal! I would not add a heater.

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Optimal usually yes... But I'm pretty sure Heisenberg sad the tea likes 72-75.... I wanna have everything perfect. lol Been a while since I've seen roots and growth like I'm seeing now..

budsMI said:

Optimal usually yes... But I'm pretty sure Heisenberg sad the tea likes 72-75.... I wanna have everything perfect. lol Been a while since I've seen roots and growth like I'm seeing now..

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I'm pretty sure he meant when u r brewing. Cause my root zone thrives with the tea at those temp. And I use ph down in my Rez after adding tea. It works great. Don't over think it man. If its already working then keep on doing what u r doing. My refrigerator and most around the world are below 72-75.....

budsMI said:

My Rez (55 gallon) temp is low to mid 60's.. Should I add a heater to warm it up?

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I don't think you'd want a heater above 60F.

I am splitting the difference. Add more Bens knowing they are not as effective at 68F but when I had a higher temp it seemed to get away from me even with the Bens. I'm blowing in a lot of warm air through the stones, the stones are up in the roots, not on the bottom. So the root area is a little warmer...It is balanced so far.

Wow. Check this shit out. www.ogbiowar.com.
They basically have split root beneficials into two different products... Root Pack and Nute Pack... and then created a third beneficials product to combat insects... Folier Pack. Pretty funny that the website has cartoon bacteria, packing... with army helmets and bandaliers of ammo around their little bodies... it's BIO WAR BITCHES!!

Heisenberg, is this the company you've created?
Or did they steal your idea?

EDIT: Their root pack claims to have 20 species at a "concentration of 5 billion organisms per gram". Is that special? Mycogrow still sounds like the best buy.

Pythium, root rot, brown slime, whatever names these pathogens go by, they we destroying a garden that was beautiful for 2 years! I tried it all guys, SM90 Pyhsan 20, H2o2, and they all worked...for a few days. The battle cost me a lot of money, and a lot of time.

I have been using this tea for a week now, and everything has come back to life. Things are growing again and I am starting to see white roots.....have I won the war? Is this really the solution? They all said physan would work, they said sm 90 would work...they said h2o2 would work...they did not.

I really think that as long as I keep this up...forever...that my room will return to its former glory. I will report back in a month.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!

Heis didnt get this many posts on this thread by not knowing what hes talkin about.

Shout out to the tea. Just making me aware of the ingredients I gave all the plants full strength dosages as recommended on the bottle in their fresh res and they are doing awesome. I also just hit 24 hours today so poured a cup of tea onto each plants roots. Will do some more + 3 cups (in 5 gal bubble buckets) tomorow for each plant. The tea is the ishnat.

Saw my first new growth in almost five days today and today's growth has surpassed the previous five entire days worth of growth.

I called a local hydro store that I had never been to, and asked them if they had any earth worm castings(for brewing Heisenberg's tea). She said "yes", we have Vermi-T.

"Liquid earth worm castings?" I asked.
"yes, I brew a batch once a week".

This may have been mentioned before but this company makes "bio cartriges" that are $70+ and you put them into a "bio-extractor" to brew your tea...(the bio-extractor looks like a custom made black tote... for $400 ...). So anyway, if you have the special "bio-extractor" you can brew what's called... "Vermi T Solution". Which is just tea. Is it me? Or is the beneficial bacteria business exploding lately? OG BioWar, Vermi T and... TurkeyTea! My new line of super-secret proprietary mycorrhizae... and all for just $500 a gallon!

Seriously, not trying to bash the company. The brewed Vermi T solution is actually very reasonable. A half gallon of the tea is less than $10. But... why can't I just brew this tea with say... a little more mycogrow and a touch of molassas? Hell, couldn't I just throw some air stones in this tea itself, with a little food? For under $10?

Here's pics of the packaging that list ingredients:

Vermi-T works good. It got my plants going when they stopped. I only bought it because you have to wait 2 days for the Heisenberg tea. As far as I know the Heisenberg tea is much cheaper and more diverse.

They charge $20 at my local shop.

Any truth that ph up and/or down will kill the beneficial's?