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DWC to Perpetual

firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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So at the risk of getting made fun of for my shitty plants I seek advice on these clones. I'm going to be very detailed so bare with me. I'm using ppm as its easier to tell tiny changes. This is 500scale meaning 500ppm = 1.0EC

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Pipedream Clone Grey (left)

11/18- 6.2 at 310 down to 5.6
11/19- 6.1 at 300 - New Res 5.8 at 460
11/20- 6.2 at 460 down to 5.6
11/21- 6.0 at 460 down to 5.6
11/22- 5.9 at 460
11/23- 5.5 at 450



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Pipedream Clone Green

11/18- 5.9 at 320
11/19- 6.1 at 310 - New Res 5.5 at 450
11/20- 5.9 at 440 down to 5.7
11/21- 5.5 at 430 up to 5.8
11/22- 5.9 at 410
11/23 5.8 at 390
 
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Pipedream Clone Grey (Right)

11/18- 5.8 at 340
11/19- 6.0 at 330 - New Res 5.1 at 450(added too much pH down by accident)
11/20- 5.4 at 460 up to 5.9
11/21- 5.8 at 450
11/22- 5.8 at 450
11/23- 5.7 at 440 up to 5.9
 
Vumar

Vumar

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cal-mag def shows on the leafs. It's either missing or doesnt drift into the right Ph range. Have you calibrated your TDS pen n Ph meter?
 
firsttimeARE

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Unknown seed

11/16- New res 5.8 at 580
11/18- 5.4 at 560 up to 5.8
11/19- 5.8 at 560
11/20- 5.9 at 550 down to 5.6
11/21- 5.6 at 530 up to 5.8
11/22- 6.2 at 530 down to 5.6
11/23- 5.8 at 510

Is this blueish green on the older fan leaves P def? I always attributed this to N tox.

Also you see the leaves curling underneath the main canopy? Pics 3,4 & 5
 
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firsttimeARE

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Vumar said:
cal-mag def shows on the leafs. It's either missing or doesnt drift into the right Ph range. Have you calibrated your TDS pen n Ph meter?
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It needed to be calibrated for a few days now. So today I recalibrated it, but before I did that I took a reading of a plant it was solid at 5.7 for a minute or two. I calibrated it which the 7.0 solution was 7.0 and the 4.0 was coming up as 4.1. So it seemed pretty well calibrated.

I tested the same plant that was solid at 5.7 and it was at 5.5. Odd seeing as it was basically spot on during the calibration.

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Back left is Stinkbomb clone turned mom(mostly healthy),
Back right is Pieface(very healthy)
Front right is Unknown seed(mostly healthy),
Front middle is Pipedream grey right(see the grey neoprene color, mother is the screened pipedream in flower)
Middle/middle is pipedream green
Middle left is Pipedream grey left

Pipedreams are growing vertically, kind of lacking bushing out and leaf size.
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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Pieface (not really having an issue with this one, if anything I need to increase the feed)

11/16- New Res 5.8 at 580
11/18- 6.4 at 460 down to 5.5
11/19- 6.5 at 450 down to 5.6
11/20- 6.5 at 440 down to 5.6
11/21- 6.5 at 410 down to 5.4(added too much pH down)
11/22- 5.6 at 440(feed increased and res had 1 gal left, good sign I needed a new batch of nutes, stronger nutes) New Res 5.8 at 610
11/23- 5.6 at 530 (dropped 80ppm last night) so maybe I need even more?
 
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Interesting thing is if I look at my cloner, I have a Pipedream Green that I haven't transferred to its own bucket yet and (6) Stinkbomb clones

This cloner is at 5.8 at 440 and the Stinkbombs look fine for being much smaller/younger, but the Pipedream looks like the others.

First 3 pictures are the Pipedream and the last 3 are the Stinkbombs and a group shot.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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just to clarify all your data:

it seems like almost all of your pH is dropping, not rising? i almost always had the opposite. set it at 5.5 and would rise up to 6.1 at the end of the week just in time for res change.

on a side note, how do you like the dry nutes so far?
 
firsttimeARE

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My water is 59F in veg. But the one in the cloner isnt much better and that water is around 75F.

The clone thats dropping feed daily is starting to put off straight leaves.
 
Vumar

Vumar

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Temperatures are too low, thats partially the issue I believe with your leaf curls. If your PH isnt off.
 
Vumar

Vumar

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The purpling in the veins of the plants indicate its cold or a micro def. A few leaves had rusted looking spots on the pictures at the top of the page.. thats why I hinted at cal-mag.
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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Yeah those are old leaves. They are clones taken from those pipedreams in flower that db would have trash canned. The ones with all those rust spots.

They are getting 2-1-2-2-1 NPKCaMg
 
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