homebrewer
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I use rapid rooter plugs and also use a little bloom formula with KLN, maybe 50ppm?
Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)
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unohu69
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Any idea what the shelf life of DG products might be? I bought a small 8oz bottle of grow, thinking I was only testing it. then I bought a 32 oz bottle of bloom and protek. these are going to last me a lot longer than i anticipated. right now storage temp is about 62*F, but come summer, avg temps wil be closer to 80.
tomat0
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Given the nature of the product, storage life should be several years if stored at a constant temperature. The major concern is that the super saturated solutions can become unstable due to wide temperature fluctuations.
Keep any solution in a cool and dark environment and avoid fluctuations.
brownbearclan
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Heya HB, thought I'd drop in and say hi. I'm still rocking an almost identical setup and have had great success every round. I wanted to confirm the awesome-sauce that is Dyna-Gro's K-L-N. I've used it for 2 rounds of cloning now, all with 100% success! I even compared it side by side with identical cuts using Rootek gel and the results were the same. All I do is soak my starter cubes in 5.5-5.8 water with 2.5ml/g of the K-L-N. Then I dome them (vented) for 2-3 days and mist daily with plain water, then after doming/misting stops, it's watering the cubes a teeny bit once a day for about a week with just more water and K-L-N mix untill the roots pop. =)
Hey Homebrewer, I've tried to read all 55 pages of this thread but I don't think I ever saw your exact feeding schedule anywhere. Would you mind posting full feeding schedule and any additives in one post? If not, no biggy, and thank you.
homebrewer
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Check out the DynaGro vs AN thread in my signature. I know I go over all that stuff in there.
Rushed
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Great thread, very good read.
I've been using botancare in an areo setup for a while now, It's been a great product.
The only thing that seems to really be a pain in the ass is cleanup, (and mixing from so many differnt bottles.) the brown slime that it leaves behind. It takes a long time to get things sparkling.
I do remember you saying that dyna-gro is a clear product when mixed with very low salt build up.
What's your opinion on running it in an areo system.
Thanks for the great read and all your helpful thoughts. (My eyes hurt I finally got to the end, just haven't been able to pull myself away.)
I've been using botancare in an areo setup for a while now, It's been a great product.
The only thing that seems to really be a pain in the ass is cleanup, (and mixing from so many differnt bottles.) the brown slime that it leaves behind. It takes a long time to get things sparkling.
I do remember you saying that dyna-gro is a clear product when mixed with very low salt build up.
What's your opinion on running it in an areo system.
Thanks for the great read and all your helpful thoughts. (My eyes hurt I finally got to the end, just haven't been able to pull myself away.)
homebrewer
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I don't know much about running an aero system but I do know salty nutes can cause issues. DG grow and bloom are a clear, green color and when added to a res, the res may take on the slightest hint of a color but the res will remain pristine and clear. I'd think DG with it being as clean as it is would be great in aero.
Trichy Bastard
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Agree with Homebrewer on this, I am going to test it in my own setup as I am a Dyna-fan. It is very clean and clear- once mixed, you would not know it wasn't pure water. I am currently using Canna Substra which has been proven to be excellent in DTW aero and is equally as clear, but I am really excited to test the DG against it. Rushed -are you doing low pressure or high pressure?
Rushed
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I'm doing low pressure, 800gpm pump with easy cloner sprayers. I'm very interested in high pressure though. Maybe someday I'll build a setup.
Trichy Bastard
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Cool man... Yes high pressure has been really fun for me, it's really a different way to grow. My whole setup only uses about half the nutes or less that I would use with hydro, and the whole thing can run off a car battery and 20 watt solar panel off the grid. Right now I am draining to waste, but only go through about 10 gallons per week which would support 8 plants (of course this amount varies with the plants needs and phase of growth). Right now I'm running about 300ppm (.7 scale) and likely won't go past a miximum of 900 ppm. It's really nice not having to ever check ppm or ph after a res refill... I'm pretty excited on the next run to combine the power of HPA with Dynagrow...
Here is another person's pic of HP aero roots... His name was G-Love
unohu69
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If anyone is interested I upd a scan of the DG feeding schedule. id say its pretty much spot on with what we have all discovered.
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/499254-dyna-gro-nutrient-ppm-test.html#post6933491
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/499254-dyna-gro-nutrient-ppm-test.html#post6933491
homebrewer
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After I decided to make the switch to DynaGro, I ran GH and DG side-by-side in my room in effort to use up all the GH nutes I had sitting around. For the six months following this comparison (or about three harvests), DynaGro outperformed GH every single time no matter what strain I was running and it was doing so while being easier to use. I finally decided that it would be more efficient to just let the GH nutes collect dust than to actually attempt to use them up. I currently have over 7 gallons of GH base nutes that will never get used indoors because DynaGro is just that much better. I was actually considering donating them back to my hydro store.
So to answer your question, I won't be using GH ever again. DynaGro yields more, it's pH stable, it's less salty, it's more concentrated, it's less expensive, it's easier to use and it requires less daily work. This is going to be a controversial statement but I have also found that DynaGro grows a more potent product with a longer duration than GH. My only explanation is that DG supplies all 16 essential elements while GH only supplies 10. The difference in potency isn't night-and-day but every one of my testers has noticed this. I will say this; GH tends to grow a product that appears to be more resinous, but that doesn't seem to mean anything in regards to potency or duration of the high. The only time I'd ever use GH again is to confirm this potency observation though I have no testing facilities in my area.
Trichy Bastard
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Speaking of comparisons, I remember you mentioning planning another head to head test. Have you considered trying it against Canna? Right now I am using the Substra (made) for drain to waste, and it's real clean and clear, and has a good ph with r.o. without needing adjustment (although I can't say if it would remain stable when recirculating) like Dynagro- but it seems to lack some of the trace elements. Like I said, I plan to run Dyna in my next grow to compare results, was curious if you might try it the other way around if you were looking for another test subject.
homebrewer
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I liked doing the Connoisseur comparison because there's so much hype behind their products and it was nice to cut through the BS and take an honest look at their most expensive base nutrient. I'm not sure that any other brand has such an ignorant following. If there were, I'd be up for another test.
Trichy Bastard
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Mkes sense and I'm starting to understand a little better what motivates your choices now. Expensive hyped up bullshit is what your looking for... And I'm glad you did connoisseur too, because even I felt myself wondering if it was so great... This connoisseur test really put alot into perspective for me, it was the last straw in me curbing the feeling to impulsively buy magic bottles that are nothing more than strategic marketing ploys.
tomat0
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I'm not surprised with your answer. I'm just a bit curious since I've seen such a number of GH applications in large scale operations. It made me want to do a comparison but by paper alone I have my theoretical answers.
I'll probably use the 15+ gallons of GH sitting around for soil. I know the comparison hasn't been completely controlled but it's enough for me.
In regards to your other observations... we're on the same boat.
BigBuddahCheese
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I bought some KLN homebrewer and have an aeroclone bucket. I was running touch of grow and some aquashield alone in there. Now that I have the KLN what do you suggest? I have the whole Dyna line of course.
homebrewer
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I use like 1/2 tsp per gallon of KLN in my rooting system. I think there are instructions on the back of the bottle as I have no experience with an aero cloner.