Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)

That's what I been using like 5ml per gallon. Thanks.

Hello, I've been reading about different nutrient lines for years, and Dyno-Gro always stuck out as one of the ones used by Dutch Flower growers, as well as general gardening enthusiasts, never really heard any bad feed back on them.

Then I started reading scholarly articles on the cutting edge of science, and it is now a fact in at least two other species of higher plant that Nickel is required for a laundry list of biological functions, therefore nutrients without Nickel are deficient by nature, in soil I assume it is acquiring Nickel organically, where-as in Hydro using these formulas the plant must be doing some other alternative synthesis to achieve the same thing, though this must surely be stressing the plants in a bad way.

I've been running Lucas w/ GH Liquid then MaxiBloom, I have to say MaxiBloom is too gritty for my tastes and a liquid of any type is better because it holds elements in solution with higher success. Picked up some Dyno-Gro Liquid Bloom, Mag-Pro, Pro-TeKT, Advanced Nutrients pH Up & Down (Most concentrated on the market and renowned as one of their quality products)

Filled Reservoir W/ approx 8 gallons RO, added the Pro-TeKt first, then Bloom, then Mag Pro, added 100 ML Hydrogen Peroxide, 100 ML Liquid Kelp, 1 Drop Per Gallon Superthrive, 25 ML Florashield (Chitosan), at the end after mixing came to a resting natural pH of 5.5 w/ starting water around 6.8-9 130 ppm

Lowered pH to 5.2 as per Overgrow recommendations, pH held steady for hours drifted up .3 overnight, hope this helps and thank you for convincing me to switch.

Final note, there is an excellent grow by someone using Dyno-Gro as well on Violator Kush if you search it.

Foresakenlion - Got a link to that grow by chance?

Just a few things to note, I think your pH is a little low. Generally people like something around 5.8 but do what works best for you. Also, superthrive in my opinion has no place outside of cloning. What does florashield do that peroxide doesn't? Forgive the questions, I've just found that a simple approach works better.

I remember reading that nickel is important for seed production if I remember correctly... It probably has other functions I'll assume as well. Certainly can't hurt to use a little, like how Dyna does- but it can quickly become toxic at higher levels.

Amazingly informative. I am new here, but have been growing MJ for about 4 years.

This grow journal is just what I needed. You can only read so much general information.
Your insights have helped unbrainwash me from all the nutrient advertising wars.

I am curious why you choose to use 600 watts over 1000 watts

I would to here your input on that question.
Now off to consume your DynaGro vs AN Conni Journal

Again thank you for your all the value you bring to the table. You need donate button.

prestone said:

Amazingly informative. I am new here, but have been growing MJ for about 4 years.

This grow journal is just what I needed. You can only read so much general information.
Your insights have helped unbrainwash me from all the nutrient advertising wars.

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The outcome of this journal was obviously a surprise as I was GH guy up to this point. Glad you found it helpful.

I am curious why you choose to use 600 watts over 1000 watts

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When I first started nearly 11 years ago, my first light was a 600 and I've kind of built from there. Since then I've realized that 600's are more efficient than 1000's given the space they take up. For instance, say you're working with 3k watts. With five 600's, I could easily yield 90-100 ounces. That's not an easy task with only three stationary 1000's. I do think 1000's are great when used with light movers though.

What is the smell and consistency of the Floralicious plus? I used some General Organics stuff in the past and it smelled like death. Is it anything like that?

Lucius Vorenus said:

What is the smell and consistency of the Floralicious plus? I used some General Organics stuff in the past and it smelled like death. Is it anything like that?

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It's a thick, dark liquid. You can easily use a ml dropper to add it to a res but it takes a minute to rinse the dropper as it tends to coat the inside pretty well.

The smell is hard to describe. There is definitely a deep, earthy smell but to me, the smell is overwhelmingly sharp and almost acidic/sour smelling.

homebrewer said:

It's a thick, dark liquid. You can easily use a ml dropper to add it to a res but it takes a minute to rinse the dropper as it tends to coat the inside pretty well.

The smell is hard to describe. There is definitely a deep, earthy smell but to me, the smell is overwhelmingly sharp and almost acidic/sour smelling.

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Any comparison to Liquid Karma?

Lucius Vorenus said:

Any comparison to Liquid Karma?

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LK's aroma is just earthy to me, maybe like liquid dirt? If you intensified that earthiness and added a strong, sharp sour/acidic smell, then you've got FLP.

Hi Homebrewer, great journal. I am new to growing and have slowly been acquiring my equipment. I came very close to buying the Advanced Nutrients range, until I saw your results with Dyna Gro. Its not the easiest product to find in the UK, but I have just received my order of the following: pro-tekt 0-0-3, bloom 3-12-6, grow 7-9-5, mag pro 2-15-4. I am growing in a light mix soil and have added perlite, roughly a 60/40 mix. I will be using a 600w lamp. I have twelve seedlings roughly 1 week old. I have been trying to find information on a feeding schedule using Dyna Gro and soil and was hoping you could point me in the right direction. Thanks.

spankinvinyl said:

Hi Homebrewer, great journal. I am new to growing and have slowly been acquiring my equipment. I came very close to buying the Advanced Nutrients range, until I saw your results with Dyna Gro. Its not the easiest product to find in the UK, but I have just received my order of the following: pro-tekt 0-0-3, bloom 3-12-6, grow 7-9-5, mag pro 2-15-4. I am growing in a light mix soil and have added perlite, roughly a 60/40 mix. I will be using a 600w lamp. I have twelve seedlings roughly 1 week old. I have been trying to find information on a feeding schedule using Dyna Gro and soil and was hoping you could point me in the right direction. Thanks.

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Hopefully your tap water is not too crappy. Water is an item that is often overlooked.

So for flowering plants, you really wont need more than 1 tsp/gallon of one of their bases and protekt. Cut that in half for veg.

Using protekt and a base in roughly a 1:1 ratio should put your pH in the low 6's but that depends on your water. Find the protekt:base ratio that puts your pH in that ideal range.

I don't use magpro in the dirt. I haven't found that it's needed. It's strong stuff and 1ml/gallon is plenty for plants in the dirt.

Plants in the dirt often times need more N than we think so the majority of the time, I feed with protekt and grow. Occasionally I'll feed with a 50/50 mix of grow and bloom during flower, but only occasionally.

Casey Jones from House of Love, fed mostly grow and protekt from start to finish. She yielded 3.25 ounces.

Thank You for this test. I use GH now (soil & PowerGrowers) after being away from the girls for a long time (11 yrs.)due to illness. I used to use Green Air Products (1 part ) because it was so easy in my rockwool slab garden. I have been looking for simplicity and stability in my grows. And almost went Fox Farm ( I'm using Ocean Forest soil)

Please keep feeding us the info. It really does help.

BakedinAlaska said:

Thank You for this test. I use GH now (soil & PowerGrowers) after being away from the girls for a long time (11 yrs.)due to illness. I used to use Green Air Products (1 part ) because it was so easy in my rockwool slab garden. I have been looking for simplicity and stability in my grows. And almost went Fox Farm ( I'm using Ocean Forest soil)

Please keep feeding us the info. It really does help.

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I`ll Second what BakedinAlaska says!!!! ( Please keep feeding us the info. It really does help. )

THanks..And all the best in the NEw YEAR!!!!!

Hi, I got some Dyna Gro and was wondering if you still had the Dyna-Gro feeding schedule ??

homebrewer said:

Hopefully your tap water is not too crappy. Water is an item that is often overlooked.

So for flowering plants, you really wont need more than 1 tsp/gallon of one of their bases and protekt. Cut that in half for veg.

Using protekt and a base in roughly a 1:1 ratio should put your pH in the low 6's but that depends on your water. Find the protekt:base ratio that puts your pH in that ideal range.

I don't use magpro in the dirt. I haven't found that it's needed. It's strong stuff and 1ml/gallon is plenty for plants in the dirt.

Plants in the dirt often times need more N than we think so the majority of the time, I feed with protekt and grow. Occasionally I'll feed with a 50/50 mix of grow and bloom during flower, but only occasionally.

Casey Jones from House of Love, fed mostly grow and protekt from start to finish. She yielded 3.25 ounces.

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what was the size of the sobstrate container, or are you hydro of some sorts

Samwell Seed Well said:

what was the size of the sobstrate container, or are you hydro of some sorts

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That was in 2.5 gallons of promix (5 gallon bucket filled halfway). I've moved up to 3 gallons to see if the slightly larger rootball would have an affect on yield. The jury is still out.

i noticed a pronounced yield increase after 5 gallon size root balls/pots but i also use smart bags . . .. .that is a nice looking girl up there

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i noticed a pronounced yield increase after 5 gallon size root balls/pots but i also use smart bags . . .. .that is a nice looking girl up there

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That's also a lot of dirt to be using/deposing of bur you're right, I bet 5 gallons of dirt grow a huge plant. Personally I like smaller plants but more variety under a single light. How many plants in 5+ gallons of medium are you squeezing under a light?

i like smaller plants too i try to get em as wide as possible

i have a thoery that most platns prefer to be small , to have the best quality/potency

but i have had a few strains that will biuld up strong nugs all the way up and down no matter how big as long as i haven't created to many bud sites with pruning/defoliating and topping