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kamie

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Im geting 65 in the tents now :) and with 6 600 in the tent i keep them all the way up theres plenty of light!
Hey HR,
Is it okay to keep the temps that low? I always assumed 68 was the best. I had another friend who said 80 was good because it drinks alot but yea... Thats hott. Mines been around 79 but its cuz i didnt install the ducting for the aircooled. I got em in last nite and its sitting 72. Im running 6 1k xxxl magnum and i have them about 2-3 feet away from the canopy. On my last run by week 3 and 4 i had it about less than half feet away from the canopy without burns but that time i had 4 1k and rooms temps were usually 65-68. I thought with 600's you can put that right on top of the canopy no? I wanna try dimming my ballast to 750 and try that. Im going into week 2 of flower so maybe in a week or two if i decide to try. Also do you do all sprays right before lights out? Spidermite sprays and pm sprays etc. I always thought i had to wait till lights are off and walk in with a green light to do that. Is 1 hr before lights out okay to spray or is that too much time? With 54 plants i feel like i need to make sure i have everything covered
 

hornedfrog2000

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I know people talk about sticking the light right on top of the buds, but there is a point where it is too close. I try to keep the 600 watt at least 16" from the the tops. My plants start growing funny if they get much closer than that. I could probably have the plants 1" from the bulb/glass but they get bleached out, and the growth gets grnarly. More I grow the more I realize less is more. On the temperature 65 is fine.

Spraying the plants after lights out is just asking for mold imo. RH usually goes up at night the way it is due to the fact the temp drops. I'm not sure on that one though.
 

hellraizer30

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@ kamie 65f seems to work great! I think 65 to 70 is great i dont like going above it!



@ hornedfrog. Whats up brotha! How grow going?
 

hornedfrog2000

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Seems to be doing real well. I'm hoping to get some serious weight out of these chronic plants I got going. They are starting to plump up real nice. I'm also making a 140 site aero cloner to see if I can get enough success out of it to make it work. I really think 2lbs in that 3x3 tray is possible after seeing these chronics I have going. Even if I have to veg them for 3 week to do it, it will be worth it imo. That would be a total of 4lbs off 1200 watts. If I'm successful I might expand to 2400 watts :O
 

kamie

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I know people talk about sticking the light right on top of the buds, but there is a point where it is too close. I try to keep the 600 watt at least 16" from the the tops. My plants start growing funny if they get much closer than that. I could probably have the plants 1" from the bulb/glass but they get bleached out, and the growth gets grnarly. More I grow the more I realize less is more. On the temperature 65 is fine.

Spraying the plants after lights out is just asking for mold imo. RH usually goes up at night the way it is due to the fact the temp drops. I'm not sure on that one though.
My last run i sprayed 1 hr after lights out, but then i thought it was because if i sprayed when the lights are on i thought i would burn it. i did have trouble with a lil PM later on. i just made sure when i sprayed i had good ventilation. 10 in. vortex for air in and 10 in max fan for air out. i also have 2 oscilating fans on high. but knowing now that i shouldn't seems great cuz i hated spraying in the dark with the green light. i just want to know whats the time frame i can spray before lights out. any suggestions?

as for temp its really cold in the bay area right now but with 6 lights it heats up quick when lights are on. my other question is when lights are off my temps are around 50-55 is that okay? thats with both air in and out on full blast. my time schedule is 5pm on to 5am off so when its on i have it full blast and when i wake up around 9am i usually adjust the fans to low. you guys think i should leave it on full blast all the time?
 

hellraizer30

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Might throw a heater in there you dont want it that cold and no more that a 10 degree difference between night and day!
 

InsaneMJ

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KamIe I had similar questions before. What I did when it drops under 70, is just sit in the room until the temp drops under what you prefer, so that way you know how long it takes. Then you can install a timer with a heater in the room. So for my room. After 2 1/2 hours of lights out the temp will drop to under 63 then it kicks on for 4 hours and shuts off, which brings my room temp back up to 76. Since I'm on vacation I'm not able to dial it in completely but it works. Or if your lazy just go to homedepot and buy a plug-in thermostat and you'll be able to plug in a heater and it'll be more accurate then a timer based system. Also if your spraying for mites, you never wanna do it with lights on cause it'll burn em' I've done it lol. Unless it's ment to be used as a foiler with the lights on, most products are pretty specific about that. What I did was add a little bit of my bug killer with my liquid light/ saturator since the product is ment to be used as soon as the lights kick on, that allows me to spray when I need to regardless if lights are on or off.
 

InsaneMJ

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Ohh also I'm never ever a pestimistic, but 4ps for 1200 watts is super high expectation IMO? Lol I like to shoot for 3/4 to 1 p per thousand. But I guess it's all about the techniques your using and veg time... Etc.. I'm curious to see who has pulled the highest yield with 1x400, 1x600, and 1x1000. Maybe I can borrow some of your techniques lol
 

hornedfrog2000

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Ohh also I'm never ever a pestimistic, but 4ps for 1200 watts is super high expectation IMO? Lol I like to shoot for 3/4 to 1 p per thousand. But I guess it's all about the techniques your using and veg time... Etc.. I'm curious to see who has pulled the highest yield with 1x400, 1x600, and 1x1000. Maybe I can borrow some of your techniques lol
Oh I know, but I think with doing single cola sog, and using one of the best yielding plants around it might be possible. I really don't know at this point though.
 

InsaneMJ

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Ohhh single colas in a sog would definately produce, my friends gettin 1 3/4 p per 3x3 table with 1 thousand
 
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