Effect of Defoliation on Yield - Skywalker OG indoor scrog

Thckingdom · May 13, 2014

I just do every thing you are doing,but I focus on the inner middle branches more an strip them hardest once a week for first 3weeks after this they will look like the main leaders from then I just remove or snip leaf if it covers bud spot ,

Uncle Ben · May 13, 2014

OscarLaGrouch said:
Dude stop stirring the pot.

Right now Buncle En is like a chihuahua barking outside my car while im singing loudly inside w the stereo blasting and the windows rolled up, blowin a pipe...

We're writing poems now.

Uh huh, you're definately a botanist working on a phD.

Uncle Ben · May 13, 2014

OscarLaGrouch said:
How big is this bitch?
Did you d fo lee 8 ?

Even writes like a botanist with a phD. :bigjoint:

CaretakerDad · May 13, 2014

Thckingdom said:
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Like I said pics or it didn't happen, I see maybe 3/4 oz colas and at best a dozen of them and some smaller ones. Your claim was (32) 30 -60 gram buds. Stop promoting this defoliation nonsense with made up numbers and bullshit science, especially to noobs who love to play with their plants which is all this really is, not botany. And yes like many here on this forum I do have degrees in biology and chemistry and worked for a fully paneled USDA research scientist for 7 years. Uncle Ben is spot on when he points out that actual scientists replicate their experiments under strict protocols regarding the technique, and observation that always involve triple redundancy and multiple trials. They are also subject to external monitoring and peer review by accomplished members of their respective fields (which you are getting right now from UB, Chuck and myself).

Uncle Ben · May 13, 2014

RC Clark (who exposes the stoner myth of leafing) is THE authority on cannabis culture and breeding. Like Mel Frank, he covers the botanical side of plant genetics and processes.
http://www.amazon.com/Robert-Connell-Clarke/e/B001KCSHR0

Uncle Ben · May 13, 2014

For those who just might be interested in the function and importance of leaf retention and whose intent is to promote vigor rather than plant retardation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaf

Thckingdom · May 13, 2014

This isn't the perfect example but I've pruned this a couple a days ago , reducing the plant by 1/3 leaf an clones

Uncle Ben · May 13, 2014

CaretakerDad said:
... And yes like many here on this forum I do have degrees in biology and chemistry and worked for a fully paneled USDA research scientist for 7 years.

Interesting! Are you familiar with the Keyplex 350 DP product that came out of a big research SAR program commissioned with the USDA? I was recently gifted with 5 gals. of the stuff and am experimenting with it and sharing it with commercial nut/fruit producers and recently sent a sample to a fine greenhouse grower to play with. http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/may98/prot0598.htm

CaretakerDad · May 13, 2014

Uncle Ben said:
Interesting! Are you familiar with the Keyplex 350 DP product that came out of a big research SAR program commissioned with the USDA? I was recently gifted with 5 gals. of the stuff and am experimenting with it and sharing it with commercial nut/fruit producers and recently sent a sample to a fine greenhouse grower to play with. http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/may98/prot0598.htm

I actually worked for an entomologist doing pheromone testing in the forests of the Pacific Northwest, did some toad work for another researcher as well. It was one of those jobs where when people saw you catching and PIT tagging toads or setting up 3000M trap arrays in dense forest, they wanted to be you. I also spent a lot of time in very remote locations by myself which was not a bad thing.

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

CaretakerDad said:
Like I said pics or it didn't happen, I see maybe 3/4 oz colas and at best a dozen of them and some smaller ones. Your claim was (32) 30 -60 gram buds. Stop promoting this defoliation nonsense with made up numbers and bullshit science, especially to noobs who love to play with their plants which is all this really is, not botany. And yes like many here on this forum I do have degrees in biology and chemistry and worked for a fully paneled USDA research scientist for 7 years. Uncle Ben is spot on when he points out that actual scientists replicate their experiments under strict protocols regarding the technique, and observation that always involve triple redundancy and multiple trials. They are also subject to external monitoring and peer review by accomplished members of their respective fields (which you are getting right now from UB, Chuck and myself).

Yeah yeah we know. I work in labs too. This is my first trial and i will be replicating it and obviously its getting peer reviewed by a bunch of uninvited blowhards.
Let me know when there is a Journal of Medicinal Cannabis and i will submit some papers. You can light the reprints on fire if ya want.

Your wet blanket is over there. WAY over there someplace far away. Go lay on it.

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

Biology and chemistry is not botany. I have studied all three.

CaretakerDad said:
Like I said pics or it didn't happen, I see maybe 3/4 oz colas and at best a dozen of them and some smaller ones. Your claim was (32) 30 -60 gram buds. Stop promoting this defoliation nonsense with made up numbers and bullshit science, especially to noobs who love to play with their plants which is all this really is, not botany. And yes like many here on this forum I do have degrees in biology and chemistry and worked for a fully paneled USDA research scientist for 7 years. Uncle Ben is spot on when he points out that actual scientists replicate their experiments under strict protocols regarding the technique, and observation that always involve triple redundancy and multiple trials. They are also subject to external monitoring and peer review by accomplished members of their respective fields (which you are getting right now from UB, Chuck and myself).

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

If i wanna fuck around with mybplants, whats it to you guys? Your ego just disgusts me. You act like im using your federal grant money to do this. Get over yourselves. You dont like the topic so move on.

Dont go thru life looking for opptys to take offense.

Thckingdom · May 13, 2014

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CaretakerDad said:
Like I said pics or it didn't happen, I see maybe 3/4 oz colas and at best a dozen of them and some smaller ones. Your claim was (32) 30 -60 gram buds. Stop promoting this defoliation nonsense with made up numbers and bullshit science, especially to noobs who love to play with their plants which is all this really is, not botany. And yes like many here on this forum I do have degrees in biology and chemistry and worked for a fully paneled USDA research scientist for 7 years. Uncle Ben is spot on when he points out that actual scientists replicate their experiments under strict protocols regarding the technique, and observation that always involve triple redundancy and multiple trials. They are also subject to external monitoring and peer review by accomplished members of their respective fields (which you are getting right now from UB, Chuck and myself).

these are 34days old 30 days left so I'd be pretty close an it is the normal for me to reach this been there done that an I'm just talking to Oscar not promoting,each to there own is a better solution not one set mind frame it's just a method I enjoy

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

THC and everyone who liked the OP:
we can all "ignore list" whomever we like and they can't even be quoted into the thread. lets shut out the chatter from the morons that call us noobs. pretty sure they didn't crank out 5g nugs on the reg as newbies.

I hate fuckin chichuahuas. yap and crap.
this is MY DOG:

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

chuck estevez said:
you are worse than anyone here, if you simply ignored anything you choose to not like, it would die right there, but you like the drama and actually create it more for yourself. Did you question everything your professor taught you? Did you tell him, I know you have been teaching this for years and have studied all the scientific data, But I am going to go do it for myself? I am betting you didn't even pull a c+ average.

I had a B average which is pretty good considering the school and the fact that all my study partners are medical doctors and research scientists now.

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

Thckingdom said:
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these are 34days old 30 days left so I'd be pretty close an it is the normal for me to reach this been there done that an I'm just talking to Oscar not promoting,each to there own is a better solution not one set mind frame it's just a method I enjoy

Weigh it when its done. We will pow wow in july.

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

woody333333 said:
no..... its because uncle ben and his nut suckers show up and start acting like assholes.....

nutsuckers LOL

cleaned the thread right on up. nice. I like the new RIU. used to be you block someone then someone would quote them into the thread and ruin it.

I would like to thank killemsoftly, izoc666, waterdawg, growan, miccyj, dannyboy, a senile fungus, homebrewer, cat of curiosity, natro.hydro, bu$hleaguer and others for participating in the thread and pointing up information without being dismissive pricks. I said in the thread
I always want to learn more
but if you're hostile and demeaning, I don't wanna hear you at all.

buh bye

woody333333 · May 13, 2014

chuck estevez said:
yeah, you hang on to that hate, good for your soul.

I don't hate him for it..... I feel sorry for him........

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

woody333333 said:
like racism I would guess.....

dont even respond to them. to me it sounds like you're talking to yourself.

OscarLaGrouch · May 13, 2014

speaking of noobs and defoliation
there was a thread someplace where a true noob had a teenager plant and he heard defol was great. decided to pull all but maybe 3 leaves off his plant.
then he was like
why does it look so bad.
then, still in veg, he thought he had white hairs and was all pumped.
somebody said pretty sure those are new leaves. hurry, pull them off!
high fives ensued

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