EJ Mix Ratio

Victor Vaperight

Victor Vaperight

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ColaCube said:
Hey up all
Sorry to jump in on the discussion in this newbie manner.
Not too clued up on all the terms used for different methods so bit of a heads up for you all.

Anyway tried making so ISOvape to cut out the spliffs but although my iso oil was very successful my vape juice just split.. with id say around a third been absorbed with the 50/50 mix VG/PG so yeah fail.

Ordered some EJ Mix and so i'm lead to understand its a 1ml to 1g oil mix? also how long would one heat it up in a microwave oven for?
Id also like to add some of my purchased mint (medium nicotine) vap liquid to cover the taste of the EJ Mix i've read about so much plus have my hit of nicotine until the habit kicked.

First batch of iso oil pictured.
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Using small glass pyrex bowl, mix (I use crumble) 1 gr to 30 drops. Microwave on high for 10 seconds. Remove and stir thoroughly. Microwave on high 10 more seconds. Remove, stir well, and then I use 1.5 ml pipettes for sucking the oil out of the bowl. Minimum drops of EJ mix to 1 ml seems to be 15. A mix of 15 drops EJ and 15 drops vape liquid should do well with no separation....
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ColaCube

ColaCube

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Victor Vaperight said:
Using small glass pyrex bowl, mix (I use crumble) 1 gr to 30 drops. Microwave on high for 10 seconds. Remove and stir thoroughly. Microwave on high 10 more seconds. Remove, stir well, and then I use 1.5 ml pipettes for sucking the oil out of the bowl. Minimum drops of EJ mix to 1 ml seems to be 15. A mix of 15 drops EJ and 15 drops vape liquid should do well with no separation....
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Victor thank you my friend taking time reply to my newbie question.
soon i've done this i'll let you know how it went
 
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Lorque

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qwertility said:
Hey everyone, just wanted to share my recent success and follow up with @GrowinDad regarding the information he was kind enough to share with me about his technique.

I was very interested in GrowinDad's technique that he described earlier so I bought the same exact mixer he linked and some dropper bottles. I was very impressed with how well this method worked, however it was just a little messy as the high power of the mixer caused a little to overflow and leak down the side of the bottle. Even though it was a very small amount, I don't like losing precious liqweed. Also, I'm a little impatient when it comes to purging the ethanol used to to get the oil into the dropper bottle.

When shopping for equipment for making my liqweed, I decided to buy a little $30 ultrasonic cleaner to speed up the steeping of flavor concentrates when combined with my end product. After seeing how well it worked for this and other purposes, I figured it would probably work perfectly for homogenizing my liqweed. I decided to pop a gram of shatter, about 3ml of pg, and 5 drops of Ejmix (for good measure) into a glass 30ml wide mouth screwtop jar. I did not preheat anything, but merely just threw it all together. I then microwaved some distilled water to 140 degrees and poured it into the ultrasonic cleaner. I put the jar in the ultrasonic cleaner and ran it for 8 cycles of 8 minutes (figured an hour would be a good place to start). When I pulled it out, it was perfect. Completely dissolved and no sign of clumping, even after sitting a few days. And best of all, no mess at all.

I couldn't believe how well this worked. I figure this is about as “set it and forget it” as this process can be. I googled for quite a while in search of other's that have had the same success using this method. I only found a few short forum posts with almost no responses at all.

I urge everyone that is interested in making liqweed to try this out. I also believe the Ejmix I used might be unnecessary with this type of homogenization, so I might try another small batch without any Ejmix and see how long it holds.

Here is a link to the ultrasonic cleaner I bought: http://www.amazon.com/iSonic®-Digital-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-D3800A/dp/B004MBE6WQ

I am already upgrading to a nicer one that has a larger capacity, 30 minute timer, and built in heater. As a bonus, these cleaners can also be used to clean your atomizers.

If anyone tries this technique, please post your results!
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Just wondering if anyone else has tried this method only without the EJMix. I'm currently doing small trials, using a decent amount more PG:BHO ratio that anyone else here seems to be doing, as I'm not necessarily going for potency as my #1 goal, but rather to make a solution that does not settle/lose uniformity (as seems to be the problem with VG, though I'd prefer to vape with VG). Currently am attempting trials with the Ultrasonic Cleaner, and after one 8 min run through, there wasn't as much mixing as I had expected, so using the glass screw top container with my mix, and a large coffee mug, I ran a sort of double boiler but the temperature was closer to 150 or so degrees, as I'm not sure what kind of temperatures the glass can withstand. Doing that appeared to mix moreso than before, and I'll be running through a good more number of cleaner cycles, as Qwertility says he had done eight different 8 minute cycles. Any feedback would be great. I'll let you guys know of my success or otherwise. Thanks!
 
Victor Vaperight

Victor Vaperight

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ColaCube said:
Victor thank you my friend taking time reply to my newbie question.
soon i've done this i'll let you know how it went
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Update 2/23/16. Tired of trying to hide bad taste with flavors, I'm always on the look for a new and improved way of infusing my concentrate into an easily vapable juice. Recently while on Amazon I stumbled across DBmixPro. I think I'm done looking. Used their suggest 2-1 mix ratio and have been enjoying it for about a week now. No separation, and I'm sure i could drop the mix a bit to make it stronger, but I like the viscosity of the 2-1, so that's what I am using. So using 70 drops to 1 gr (crumble), I filled 3 plastic pipettes up to the neck w/ nice, golden, non flavored vape juice. Whole process takes less than 5 minutes using microwave. Mix in small pyrex bowl, nuke 10sec, remove/stir, nuke 10 sec, remove/stir/suck into pipettes. Seal neck of pipettes with heat and throw them in drawer for later use...
Just my 2c gentlemen. And with that, I think I'm out.
 
TJ baba

TJ baba

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Anyone have a solid process for making good e liquid? I have bubble hash, what is the best micron to use for this?
 
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stickyicky77

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TJ baba said:
Anyone have a solid process for making good e liquid? I have bubble hash, what is the best micron to use for this?
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1 g RSO or BHO to 35 drops of PUFF MAJIC for pre-flavored http://shop.majicvapors.com/liquid-mixers.html or you can use DB Mix for unflavored http://www.amazon.com/DBmixPRO-Professional-Herbal-Extract-50ml/dp/B0190TJFMU?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 then add a few drops of any flavor . You can use EJ MIX http://www.amazon.com/EJMIXTM-ORIGINAL-Liquidizer-Medical-PEG400/dp/B01CK32JXU?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00. Stir and Microwave for 10 seconds then stir and use a syringe to load into vape tank. You might want to dissolve the hash freezing cold ever clear over night and the put in a pan and boil off the ever clear on low heat. You will end up with oil that you can mix easier.
 
Grow Goddess

Grow Goddess

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Don't know what y'all are talking about using all them additives and such. I am just using an alcohol extract mixed with kosher PG/USP, barely warmed. I'm not having any problems keeping my mix from separating. I only make it up as I need it. Enough for about a week's worth of vaping at the most.

Hitting on this bad boy now!
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Vette57

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Hi Grow Goddess,Ive read your posts and agree. In my case, my experiments have become better through trials and errors,including lost money and batches due to clumping,runnyness,lost potency, etc. I also highly agree with Growing Dads posts that separation always occured for me when using VG. So now my method I will call quick & easy. I have an amber glass bottle with a screw top,holds approx 4-5ML. I have my 1 gram of wax,butter,crumble,or shatter from my local dispensary ,put it in the bottle,tighten the cap and heat the glass vial with cigarette lighter and shake vigorously until wax turns into liquid,then open vial and add 1-1 1/2 ML of USP PG,then i will microwave a 1/2 cup of water to a rolling boil remove from micro oven and toss the vial in the hot water,or if in a real hurry just heat the vial again with the lighter untill the runnyness is at the right consistency visually according to previous succesfull batches.Shaking the vial when hot is important,i've seen mixing occurs better when heated.I have used EJ mix before with this recipe i would have added 5 drops only,but my version seems to hold together the whole time my tank is full,without using EJ mix Total amount of mixture is about 2-2 1/2ML of ejuice added to my tank will get me through 3-4 weeks of use.So now I Need advice on how to mix dry keif into ejuice,it is the consistency of brown sugar pressed between your fingertips,you can press it together but it also falls apart easy.I've tried my 1 to 1 ratio mix and overnight the keif absorbed all of the PG?? so now I added 2ml more of PG and it is suspended in a liquid jello stage resemblance to a lava lamp. My warming method didnt work this time,I think I will have to try the warm water bath method then filtering out the impurities,but I'm wondering how much more PG do I have to add in order to reach my desired ejuice consistency? plus by that time,will I have lost all my potency because of doubling or trippling my PG to wax ratio? I read a post where someone mixed 3grams keif to 24ML of PG/VG is this possible,I,m thinking that this guy was a lighweight because I really like the 1-1 or 1-2 ratio at the most. Any advice is apreciated, plus can anyone link me to an amazon or ebay vendor that sells fine mesh screens for filtering fine keif/hash plant material,or will coffee filters be sufficient? thanks all.
 
GrowinDad

GrowinDad

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I would try dissolving the kief in some ethanol. As little as possible. Then let it sit out and or heat most of the alcohol out and then add PG...
 
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Dune91x

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Hello there folks, first post here. I would like to share my experience. I stopped smoking tobacco but I wanted to keep smoking weed, or at least get a good taste and get high, which I believe is what we all looking for here. As some of you probably did also, I tried to do fully green joints, I tried pipes, bongs, water bongs, weed vaporizers.. The only thing that kept me going for a while was making green joints with a small amount of tobacco, like 80% green - 20% tobacco, that kept me going for a while but while I was doing it that I start to do some research on vaping, since I was using normal flavors to fill the gap of nicotine ( the cigarette with morning coffee or with a beer and friends.. ), I started thinking about using the same for joints.

After a lot of trial and error, and quite some money wasted I came to some conclusions, hopefully it will make some other people life cheaper. First conclusion, you wont get a nice mix out of PG/VG mix, you either need ethanol or PEG400 to get it soluble. I like to vape a lot, so my ratio is around 2-3ml of PEG400 on a 1g of 93% oil extract ( minium wax residue, no need to filter, keeps your coil healthy ), and then disolved it into 7ml of 80/20 PG/VG solution ( so mix of chemicals is around 10ml x 1gm of quite pure oil ). This mix never falls apart, taste is quite good and the high depends of the decarb process, I decarb it while I'm mixing it, which consist mostly on keeping the mix at around 170-180ºC for around 20min, this gets you quite a psychotropic feel, if you want a more relaxing feel, more CBN/CBD concentrate, apply less heath, 100-120ºC will do the trick, it will get you more relaxing and anti-convulsion/anti-psychotic effects. Temperature is really important with the effect, 170-180ºC convert THC-A into THC, else you are only consuming CBN/CBD, which gives you a different effect. This is taking into consideration you are using either ethanol or butane to get the extract, both process dont decarb thc.

PD: Point being is nice to see you guys are using the same methods I found out after a lot of trial and error, I wish I'd found this thread sooner :/

PD2: I'm also starting to hate the taste of burnt weed, not sure why, but this tastes way better when you've been smoking for some time.
 
sockfilter

sockfilter

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Good Day all, I have read though this thread heaps and based on my simple hands on experiments, I have come to the same conclusion as most, extracts will not hold in VG and only about 24hrs in my PG before it falls out and becomes unstable..:(

Have been scouring the web for PEG400 that is remotely cost effective with not much luck.. Yes I am aware of all the products that are available that are ready for extracts and remain stable, however my ADHD has kicked in and on a quest to figure out how to make my own juice stable w/o the retail markup. I get in the mindset of if it ticks, turns, runs or whatever, then I want to know why and how..lol

So this has lead me to question:
D-Limonene as a carrier agent.

Has anyone given this a shot? Yes the Flash point is very low at 48°C and a boiling point of 178°C which is not bad, however my thinking is just enough heat to melt the extract, add in enough D-Limonene as a carrier agent that it will HOLD in a undetermined amount of PG solution.

Has anyone given this a go as of yet? Thoughts, Concerns and/or Suggestions appreciated.
 
GrowinDad

GrowinDad

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Have not. Of course it likely won't create a vape cloud but who cares...

With that said.. If you read the whole thing, then you see that one drop per ml of oil of EJ Mix is all you need to keep it 100% stable, using PG for the rest. PG is cheap. So yes, I paid some crazy price for one bottle of EJ Mix, but at the rate of use, it will last forever...
 
outlier

outlier

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Great thread GrowinDad! Can't stand the taste of ejmix and could not find anything to hide/mask it either. It's like trying to cover a dog turd with deodorant... lol

I have found that the cleaner my qwiso is, the more stable my mixes seem to stay using just pg. Read a lot of posts by @qwizoking on how to make nice quality qwiso and that by far has been the biggest factor in my ejuice experimentation.

Shatter quality qwiso that melts at room temp is the shit. It mixes with pg like they were made for each other. I can get it to mix by just swirling the pg around the bowl. Any problems mixing and your extract is not clean/pure enough IME. Washed too long, washed to hard/viscously, washed with non-frozen iso/green are about the only things you can do wrong with qwiso. Oh and yes, keeping everything cool while it passes through the coffee filters also makes a huge difference as it can take a while (esp with 2 filters).
Nothing sweeter than concentrate made from properly cured gear either :weed:
 
not4n

not4n

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Hey gang,
So I bought some Dab Mix (pretty much the same thing as EJ Mix). Instructions say to use 2:1 dab mix to concentrate. Great, so I warmed and mixed and warmed and mixed....perfect! Now this is going to be some pretty potent stuff. Can I add 70VG/30PG ejuice mix to this? I'm off to work now, but am hoping to have an answer later today. I don't want to add it and bugger it all up, so I will leave it as is. It made about 1.5-2 ml's. But I want to dilute it to take some of the 'hard hittingness' away. Any info would be great. I've googled all night and couldnt find a definitive answer.
Thanks much!
 
not4n

not4n

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Well, days later, here's where we're at. I mixed a proper ratio of Dab Mix to concentrate. Which was 2:1 DabMix:Concentrate. I used the weight of 1 gram of concentrate (Bubba Kush purged shatter) to 2 grams weight of DabMix solution (weighed on a 0.00 digital scale). I had a metal shot glass that I received as a promotional gift when purchasing a bottle of Sailor Jerry. I made the mix in that. I had my heating element on 0.8-1.0 (lowest of the low...I could touch it with my hand...it was hot...but not stupid)...I held the metal shotty to the element for a couple seconds at a time while mixing vigorously. I have a microwave, but refuse to use it. Today I filled my sub-ohm tank on my eleaf30 with the mix.....used abut 2 mls to get my tank reasonably full. Let it settle for a few minutes and took a pull at 10w. It was pretty good. I was worried about diluting it, but diluting too much could take the "punch" away. So without finding an answer, I decided to let it ride and hit it as is. My g/f and I both had 3 nice pulls each and are feeling nice and lifted. Doesn't have the same type of high as smoking...but I definitely feel the breeze, if you know what I'm sayin'...lol.
 
not4n

not4n

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My advice is to just follow the directions. Only add minimal amounts of flavour. DO NOT DILUTE WITH EJUICE!!! It will lose too much potency. Mixing vg/pg ejuice is not necessary. From what I have read, adding any vg or pg might make the mix separate. I can't remember which one to avoid and as to what ratios. But there is no need for diluting
 
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sent2

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Hey everyone I see I am late to the party but at least i made it lol

This thread is full of win, so maybe someone can tell me what to do with my failed first attempt before finding this thread, I used 40 grams bud in 240 ml food grade VG in the magic butter machine for 12 hours bud was not decarbed. tastes great doesnt get u high for sheet tho is this just a wasted 40gs?
 
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grower64

grower64

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Hello does anyone know what the most potent pg flavoring u can get or what about concentrated terps r they superr strong?
 
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