Elons Little Plan

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
They already have. musk has all the qualities they like. He's a jerk. He's a celebrity. He'll abuse them and toss them aside. He's rich. He doesn't care about them. He's pro-Russia. He likes to fire people. He has shiny things. He's anti-union. Etc...

If the Democrats were smart they'd hit him where it hurts and boycott Tesla and stop buying his cars. Republicans don't buy electric vehicles.
They’ll buy this

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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Note: Truth and integrity are not on his radar.

Trump did break the law and will be facing indictment for the insurrection as his users have, who used his platform against the government of the USA to plan sedition, execute a conspiracy and coordinate a violent attack on the capitol. Elon should think about that when congress or a grand jury has him on the hot seat, while the EU and other countries ban his app or advertisers from using Twitter, even if they wanted to. There is still time before the house changes hands to call him as a witness, or his ex-employees, if he doesn't show. Then the senate can hold social media hearings too and the public J6 investigation can be transfered to them too.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Nobody's buying that thing.

I can see them buying this though. Ford can't make them fast enough.

Electric Ford F-150

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The electric “pickups” showcase the evolution of a work vehicle into a lifestyle display unit.

Try taking a stack of drywall anywhere with that thing.

They no longer make regular-cab longbeds with a small-engine option afaik.
 
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xtsho

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The electric “pickups” showcase the evolution of a work vehicle into a lifestyle display unit. They no longer make regular-cab longbeds with a small-engine option afaik.
I think you have to get the Super Duty for the long bed. Smallest engine is the 6.8 liter from what I see on Ford's website. They've brought back the Ranger and have the Maverick truck as well. Both of which are all the truck many need anyway and are more for those that just want a truck. Both are available with a V6.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think you have to get the Super Duty for the long bed. Smallest engine is the 6.8 liter from what I see on Ford's website. They've brought back the Ranger and have the Maverick truck as well. Both of which are all the truck many need anyway and are more for those that just want a truck. Both are available with a V6.
no regular cab available.


and the Super Duty is big money. The Diesel starts in the mid-50s. Not so long ago Chevy sold a 1500 “Work Truck” with a V-6 and a stick. For like $16k.
 

Sativied

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Damn… my car would probably fit in the back.


Tesla cars suck which would be tolerated if their service here could be any worse. Crap designs, mostly hype. Used to be by far most popular, still is in many places in europe, but in NL where 22% of new cars are EVs, Tesla pretty much killed itself and its reputation seems irreparably damaged. Especially with the many many alternatives.

How many truck owners in the US actually need a truck? I see Dodge Ram trucks here frequently and always wonder where they park.

I’ll likely get this one:

or this one (Peugeot e-208 )
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xtsho

Well-Known Member
no regular cab available.


and the Super Duty is big money. The Diesel starts in the mid-50s. Not so long ago Chevy sold a 1500 “Work Truck” with a V-6 and a stick. For like $16k.
Ford spends millions on market research so it appears that people don't want that. A good portion of people buying trucks basically want a car with a bed in the back. Time to bring back the Ranchero. :mrgreen:
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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He wasn't born in America, and we all know how republicans feel about African born foreigners running for president! :lol:
oh, but mr muck is a WHITE african born foreigner...that is an important distinction. he is also a fascist who unapologetically amplifies their bullshit on his platform. they'll embrace him like a brother, till he goes broke and wants something from them in return.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Damn… my car would probably fit in the back.


Tesla cars suck which would be tolerated if their service here could be any worse. Crap designs, mostly hype. Used to be by far most popular, still is in many places in europe, but in NL where 22% of new cars are EVs, Tesla pretty much killed itself and its reputation seems irreparably damaged. Especially with the many many alternatives.

How many truck owners in the US actually need a truck? I see Dodge Ram trucks here frequently and always wonder where they park.

I’ll likely get this one:

or this one (Peugeot e-208 )
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aren’t Peugeots synonymous with bad reliability? Here is what I covet: one kWh takes you 16 km. And in the desert I don’t even need to plug it in! The solar just about covers my needs.

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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I use my little ranger all the time to pick up plywood and whatnot in it's little bed. All you have to do is lift up the backend and close the tailgate to get it to fit.
I had the Mazda equivalent. The wheel wells were too close together. I built a rack out of 2by4s that rose above the wheel wells so I could lay sheet goods flat.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
Note: Truth and integrity are not on his radar.

Trump did break the law and will be facing indictment for the insurrection as his users have, who used his platform against the government of the USA to plan sedition, execute a conspiracy and coordinate a violent attack on the capitol. Elon should think about that when congress or a grand jury has him on the hot seat, while the EU and other countries ban his app or advertisers from using Twitter, even if they wanted to. There is still time before the house changes hands to call him as a witness, or his ex-employees, if he doesn't show. Then the senate can hold social media hearings too and the public J6 investigation can be transfered to them too.

"Deplatforming a sitting President undermined public trust in Twitter for half of America."
and reinstating a seditious criminal fuck is undermining the public trust in twitter for the other half of America...the half that didn't try to overthrow democracy and install trump as emperor for life.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Note: Truth and integrity are not on his radar.

Trump did break the law and will be facing indictment for the insurrection as his users have, who used his platform against the government of the USA to plan sedition, execute a conspiracy and coordinate a violent attack on the capitol. Elon should think about that when congress or a grand jury has him on the hot seat, while the EU and other countries ban his app or advertisers from using Twitter, even if they wanted to. There is still time before the house changes hands to call him as a witness, or his ex-employees, if he doesn't show. Then the senate can hold social media hearings too and the public J6 investigation can be transfered to them too.

Musk fail.

He was a Lame Duck President who couldn't handle the loss and committed Seditious then Treasonous acts mere days before; against America and it's rightful President-Elect Joseph R Biden, took office.

A 'Sitting President' is one of 'in full term'- not on their way out the door in 15 days.

Musk is really sucking Trumps dick to start his Nazi Dream, but he's too late, 'Dark Brandon' is here.

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Sativied

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aren’t Peugeots synonymous with bad reliability?
No not really, not over the past decades. More bad electronics but that’s more a thing of the past too. The 206 was the most sold car in Europe for years. Even when 207 and 208 were released they created 206+. Lots of overlap with parts from Renault and Citroën, so was always cheap to fix too. Long term use long distances… you’re probably right. Can still get 150k miles out of it though, especially if you can replace clutch and waterpump and can replace various sensors.

Your solar example looks way better but this one went into production a couple of days ago:

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No not really, not over the past decades. More bad electronics but that’s more a thing of the past too. The 206 was the most sold car in Europe for years. Even when 207 and 208 were released they created 206+. Lots of overlap with parts from Renault and Citroën, so was always cheap to fix too. Long term use long distances… you’re probably right. Can still get 150k miles out of it though, especially if you can replace clutch and waterpump and can replace various sensors.

Your solar example looks way better but this one went into production a couple of days ago:

yeah but the Lightyear 0 uses almost twice the Wh per km
 

orangejesus

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Ford spends millions on market research so it appears that people don't want that. A good portion of people buying trucks basically want a car with a bed in the back. Time to bring back the Ranchero. :mrgreen:
Bingo - Ford knows what they're doing when it comes to trucks... which probably has something to do with the F150 being the best-selling truck for the past 30+ years. I don't see the Ranchero - or El Camino - making a comeback; the Maverick probably fills that need/desire, and folks - by and large - want vehicles higher off the ground for visibility. Outside of the Mustang, Ford doesn't produce cars anymore.

How many truck owners in the US actually need a truck? I see Dodge Ram trucks here frequently and always wonder where they park.
Probably the same percentage of folks that need the car they have, be it a Mustang, BMW, or Tesla; 'need' left the auto equation many moons ago - now it's 'want.'
You do bring up an excellent point about parking - the typical F150 is about 20 feet long, which means it will not fit in most conventional two-garages in the US; the F150 Lightening isn't any shorter, so I envision many charging cables sneaking out of the garage in order to charge the vehicle on the driveway.
 

hanimmal

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"Deplatforming a sitting President undermined public trust in Twitter for half of America."
and reinstating a seditious criminal fuck is undermining the public trust in twitter for the other half of America...the half that didn't try to overthrow democracy and install trump as emperor for life.
I lol'd at the rich spoiled brat* lie about people who voted for fascism representing half of America, it is really 20% at best, and the percentage of those that give a shit about twitter is not even close to that much.


* (Musk, it wasn't until after I wrote this, that I realized it could easily be Trump I was talking about)
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-releases-details-twitter-suppression-hunter-biden-story-2022-12
"Musk has said making the company's internal deliberations public "is necessary to restore public trust." "
muck's "morality" is very fluid, it seems to become much stronger when it isn't applied to himself...Not that it is applicable in this situation, anyway.
I'm pretty confident that they have nothing, just like they've ever had, and on the very slim chance they do have some kind of dirt on Hunter, they'll still have nothing on Joe.
muck does seem very concerned about "public trust". He doesn't seem to be doing one fucking thing to restore it, but he does seem to be concerned about it. He seems to be behaving like a fascist enabler, an aide to white supremacists and conspiracy theorists. Hopefully the rest of his advertisers will not only leave twitter, but any other businesses of his that they are advertising with, as well. I wonder what his Saudi investors will do when twitter fails?
I don't see them taking the loss cheerfully.
 
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