Decepticon
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stupid question, but i was wondering if i could use a string to bring the few branches thats stretched out of control to a lower position not really bend the stalk but get it so its not hogging all the light
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woodsmantoker
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Your plant looks a bit "over wet" at the moment (or just in this image) and it makes it a bit more difficult seeing what "should" be removed if anything. Large fan leafs that shade multiple tops can be removed to get light to lower growth however, you may be expecting training sooner than its needed. Allow even spacing between nodes if possible with even manipulation and keeping symmetry.
This symmetry imbalance becomes an issue in training when using techniqes such as topping and fimming etc. Unless the plant is very very stable and retains basic symmetry even after topping, you will be sending auxin to certian parts of the plant while not others. This becomes visible over time. We talk about "knowing" your strain when talking about training. If this is a first time with scrog or even with training this strain, worry not, its a learning curve and you will likely be pleased with you final results regardless. Work to maintain balance and pull each top to the same lateral level when doing so. Enjoy.
woodsmantoker
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You may need to elaborate a bit further for me to gain a better understanding of your problem and or question. If you can post an image I may be of better assistance to you.
woodsmantoker
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The Hell Well:
FYI - Many of us folks use well water in our gardens and understand this to be a benefit as well as convenience. While this is true, be aware that during different times of the year the wells conditions can change; even the deepest well. PH can flop, TDS can change (Total Dissolved Solids), etc. and it becomes important to monitor these changing conditions. City water too changes PH from one test to the next at times and it is helpful to have a large resiviour that can be used to store water that can be conditioned. I mention this in lue of the number of issues I have lent advice regarding PH problems though this is not my "category" of expertise. Hope this may help to some of you.
FYI - Many of us folks use well water in our gardens and understand this to be a benefit as well as convenience. While this is true, be aware that during different times of the year the wells conditions can change; even the deepest well. PH can flop, TDS can change (Total Dissolved Solids), etc. and it becomes important to monitor these changing conditions. City water too changes PH from one test to the next at times and it is helpful to have a large resiviour that can be used to store water that can be conditioned. I mention this in lue of the number of issues I have lent advice regarding PH problems though this is not my "category" of expertise. Hope this may help to some of you.
Decepticon
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well you can tell a little in this pic but in the middle there is 4 - 5 stalks thats stretched way up there n i was wantin to take a string or so, so i can pull em down a little lower so its even with the others, as i cant get my hand under the screen to pull em down even with the rest
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mr2shim
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That's not how you scrog. Screen suppose to be above the plant. Looks to me like you put it in too early and it has grown way to tall to try and scrog.
Decepticon
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not at all thats all 12/12 stretch my brother
woodsmantoker
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Decepticon - The difficulty in using screen with a small opening is the difficulty it posses when needing to pull branches back through for what ever reason.
Gently, working from the out side in, pull branches back through then outward fitting them in between already placed lateral branches, work to fill the spaces as best you can first, then adjust tops so that they are evenly spaced.
Gently, working from the out side in, pull branches back through then outward fitting them in between already placed lateral branches, work to fill the spaces as best you can first, then adjust tops so that they are evenly spaced.
Decepticon
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yeah, i wasnt thinking about the stretch seeing as its 10 day in 12/12 and i cant reach the stems under the screen i was gonna give a little bend n tie em like one does when LSTing so the other branchs can get caught up, cause the 4 -5 im talkin about are really up there and i keep havin th move the light up so they dont get burnt n the others get light too
woodsmantoker
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Live and learn, tie to the screen symmetrically.
Decepticon
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okay, i will give it a try when the lights come on in the morning and ill post pix and give updates on it
theoldmerchant
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Video from the other day. 43 days flower. cheers 
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Decepticon
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"one more question that i forgot to ask, how late into flowerin can you still train"
*woodsmantoker* Stress during flowering is not typically recommended. I would suggest doing a bit of review of this thread before next run. Jumping in head over heals some times lands you in a nice refreshing pool, while other times you find yourself wishing you had read the warning signs "Can be rocky, Jumping in not advised".
*woodsmantoker* Stress during flowering is not typically recommended. I would suggest doing a bit of review of this thread before next run. Jumping in head over heals some times lands you in a nice refreshing pool, while other times you find yourself wishing you had read the warning signs "Can be rocky, Jumping in not advised".
Decepticon
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Thats true my brother, i shall learn from this and apply it to the next, i went a head and tied the branches i was talkin about and this how it turned out
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fruits of ireland
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what i believe is that you get ur light down as close as you can but keep in mind the size of the screen, so as you spread out you may need to raise accordingly ,,when shes about 70-80% you flip it 12/12 and the 2-3 week stretch sould fill to 95-100%,,,,,TIGHT NODES =CARPET OF TOPS,,i hope this helps ,,im no pro but i have alot of info from guys here
LBH
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Howdy Wood! Haven't been around in awhile, hope ur feeling well bud. Wanted to report back real quick that the last run, I had 2 plants I had been training and 2 clones that were about 2' in there together so I bottom stripped the clones right after the stretch for the heck of it and for what it's worth, both sides were pretty much equal. Had a medium sized yield but they really didnt get the attention they deserved.
Anyway, I did do some further research into both how silica works in the anatomy/physiology of the plant and some more on Auxins and tropisms. I feel that dipping into these topics really gave me a better understanding of how to build a stronger, more robust plant on a cellular level and I think that will help me with future yields from screens to come. Appreciate the direction
So just wanted to say thanks and wish you good health, let you know I'm around, just not too active on the boards, the local scene has been ramping up and I'm busy getting involved. Best to you bud
Anyway, I did do some further research into both how silica works in the anatomy/physiology of the plant and some more on Auxins and tropisms. I feel that dipping into these topics really gave me a better understanding of how to build a stronger, more robust plant on a cellular level and I think that will help me with future yields from screens to come. Appreciate the direction
So just wanted to say thanks and wish you good health, let you know I'm around, just not too active on the boards, the local scene has been ramping up and I'm busy getting involved. Best to you bud
woodsmantoker
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^^^single cola dominant, and stress induced hermi prone, are those that i would not recommend. Enjoy the possibilities!
woodsmantoker
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LBH - Much thanks and best of luck to you!
woodsmantoker
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theoldmerchant - We thank you for your contributions to the thread, without folks like you who take the the time to help create what this thread is today, we would be without this great resource. Thank you.
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