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ColoradoHighGrower

ColoradoHighGrower

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.Smoke said:
Am I getting this right?
5wk veg/day 21 flower White Widow.
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My grow has morphed into long veg (8-10wks) 2 plant 4'x8' grow. (This one is my practice plant hence the shorter veg time)
So I really need to get decent at this quickly :)

Any constructive criticism/suggestions appreciated!
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I like to go with around 3" squares instead of those 4" trellis nets, but looks good. also going use an additional removeable screen my next grow to help support main colas and optimize light. Probably add around mid flower. Probably not a big deal with WW though
 
Growoolit

Growoolit

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I have a 4" (10 cm) mesh aperture mesh. It's from the local mega-hardware store, and the mesh is thin steel, welded and galvanised, them plastic coated.
Hung it up with bungee cords around the tent corners. Cost = ~$7 each for 4 reusable screens.
I removed the chicken wire screen which was in there.

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I was advised that 6" apertures were the right size, but it seemed a bit big, so I compromised at 4".

It was a lot cheaper than the eBay (Australia) Scrog net at $26 (the cheapest I could see).
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snekonomics

snekonomics

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First time grower here. Gelato 50 days from seed, 2x2 tent with coco in 5 gallon airpot. Messed up with LST after mainlining which stunted some branches. Should I try to fill up the screen during veg, or flip now and fill the screen during the stretch?

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downhill21

downhill21

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snekonomics said:
First time grower here. Gelato 50 days from seed, 2x2 tent with coco in 5 gallon airpot. Messed up with LST after mainlining which stunted some branches. Should I try to fill up the screen during veg, or flip now and fill the screen during the stretch?

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You want to be bending / tucking those branches & leaves back under the screen. I would have selected a bigger grow space & trellis with smaller “holes.” Because your grow space is so small, you’re already at the point where you can flip. That one plant is fully capable of filling a space easily 3x the space it’s in. None of this means your current grow won’t be fine of course, save the tucking, which is a key component of SCROG.

The growers with far more experience than my own say flip @ 80% of screen. The stretch will easily fill your screen.
 
snekonomics

snekonomics

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downhill21 said:
You want to be bending / tucking those branches & leaves back under the screen. I would have selected a bigger grow space & trellis with smaller “holes.” Because your grow space is so small, you’re already at the point where you can flip. That one plant is fully capable of filling a space easily 3x the space it’s in. None of this means your current grow won’t be fine of course, save the tucking, which is a key component of SCROG.

The growers with far more experience than my own say flip @ 80% of screen. The stretch will easily fill your screen.
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Thanks, I think I'll flip then! I've been tucking them for the last few days after supercropping the main branches, but since the trellis has quite big holes not all the branches can reach where I want them to grow, so I've been using ties to adjust them.
 
downhill21

downhill21

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You’re doing well. Your plants are clearly healthy and loved. Ties are good - I use ‘em too, when tucking won’t do it.! Meant to tell u that did a nice job super cropping too. Nice, short plant. You’re going to see a lot of growth after you flip.
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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I'd like to know if I'm doing a proper ScroG.

I've half-assed a scrog in the past and didn't see much of a difference.

Now I'm using a late game added screen and tying the plant to it and I have some questions.

The screen is badly custom made from rigid wire. I cut and bled making this screen and bled more installing it.

After the fact, I was enlightened to issues I'm going to face and had to weigh changing it or leaving it.

I'm going to leave it this run and learn more this round so the next will be better.

(Got stoned...hard to think)

(Several tangents and an eternity later)

(Actually the next day)

I'm back after tying plants to screen and I really dislike my screen. It's going to give me around 150-200 tops which is not only a fuck ton of work to tie them down but it's going to be a horrific event at harvest.

So that began the question, how do people do this the easy way?

In my brain, a ScroG is a screen. Rigid or not it is a screen that only lets tops through, you tie the tops down and fill the screen.

I see hundreds of people using trellis netting or support netting and calling it a scrog and they have leaves everywhere and nothing is tied to shit.

So what exactly is a Scrog?
 
onegreenthumb

onegreenthumb

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Kalebaiden said:
I'd like to know if I'm doing a proper ScroG.

I've half-assed a scrog in the past and didn't see much of a difference.

Now I'm using a late game added screen and tying the plant to it and I have some questions.

The screen is badly custom made from rigid wire. I cut and bled making this screen and bled more installing it.

After the fact, I was enlightened to issues I'm going to face and had to weigh changing it or leaving it.

I'm going to leave it this run and learn more this round so the next will be better.

(Got stoned...hard to think)

(Several tangents and an eternity later)

(Actually the next day)

I'm back after tying plants to screen and I really dislike my screen. It's going to give me around 150-200 tops which is not only a fuck ton of work to tie them down but it's going to be a horrific event at harvest.

So that began the question, how do people do this the easy way?

In my brain, a ScroG is a screen. Rigid or not it is a screen that only lets tops through, you tie the tops down and fill the screen.

I see hundreds of people using trellis netting or support netting and calling it a scrog and they have leaves everywhere and nothing is tied to shit.

So what exactly is a Scrog?
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There was Sea Of Green growing method... then people started using a screen or trellis on one or two plants spread-out to look the the Sea Of Green method (SOG) sea of green method using a screen (ScROG)
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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I started using a screen and had a good increase in yield but none of it was ever top quality weed?

Question:
coincidence or does getting a bigger yield have an effect on the quality of the taste, i enjoyed the process but the product wasn't great, I ended up getting sick of the work for nothing in return and gave it up for a number of years, I've now got the bug again, my last crop was beautiful to smoke, I've another atm but only tied over again due to previous experience?

What do you think folks?
 
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Hippieryan

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I’m hoping someone can give me a thought on putting a trellis on top of 4 -30 litre pits with a RDWC system, I would like to incorporate a wingxh with my system so I can not only lift the plants but also have the top of the lids come up with it. I have 4!good pulleys but am thinking I may need to get double that to accomplish this. Does anyone else have a comparable system?
 
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Hippieryan

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Boatguy said:
You dont tie anything. Just tuck and weave the tops back under the screen untill its full enough
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Yea I understand that and how it works and the concept of it, I just thought it would be nice to lift the main trellis with the lids from my 4 resivoirs if I wanted to take a peek in then. I am sure I saw someone on here with one built that way
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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Each to there own if you're happy to do it why not?
Imho it's a lot of work for something that doesn't serve a purpose but if were you I'd go for it, the novelty of working around plants has worn thin for me but I can understand your enthusiasm, I used to be and wish I still had it.
I hope it works out for you.

Cheers SD
 
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Hippieryan

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Star Dog said:
Each to there own if you're happy to do it why not?
Imho it's a lot of work for something that doesn't serve a purpose but if were you I'd go for it, the novelty of working around plants has worn thin for me but I can understand your enthusiasm, I used to be and wish I still had it.
I hope it works out for you.

Cheers SD
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Thanks, the big one for me is that since it is hydroponics, I’m thinking it would be much safer for the plant versus me just lifting an edge up, it really isn’t that much more work and I have all the parts, thanks again, each to there own I guess, I did see one on here made from pvc pipe orb something similar and that caught my eye
 
snekonomics

snekonomics

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downhill21 said:
You’re doing well. Your plants are clearly healthy and loved. Ties are good - I use ‘em too, when tucking won’t do it.! Meant to tell u that did a nice job super cropping too. Nice, short plant. You’re going to see a lot of growth after you flip.
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She's coming along nicely, few days into flower now. I've ran out of space with the main branches, will have to see if I can bend them back or to the sides to give smaller ones time to catch up. Tucking/pruning takes me 30 minutes every morning now...
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