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snekonomics

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Day 40, gave her a haircut to expose lower bud sites. Had to improvise with pulling the net down after moving tents, but she's holding the shape quite well.

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Star Dog

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Meaning, there is an emphasis on journaling the results of having cloned from a plant in Scrog, and the second round of clones that are produced from that plant.
Would you mind enlarging on air layering clones technique?

I've heard the term when I googled it I got a million results, I can understand it better coming from a member in just a few lines of text.

Thanks SD
 

Boatguy

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Would you mind enlarging on air layering clones technique?

I've heard the term when I googled it I got a million results, I can understand it better coming from a member in just a few lines of text.

Thanks SD
You cut the outer skin away in a ring around the stem, big enough that it wont heal before it roots. Not too deep, just the skin
Wrap the wound in damp sphagnum moss, wrap that in plastic and tie/seal off the ends.
When you can see enough roots to sustain the branch, cut it off the branch under the roots and plant in whatever medium you choose.
 

Star Dog

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Thank you @Boatguy I've done a similar thing but with limited success.
Are you talking about when in veg or flower or both?

I've got a rw cube wrapped around the stem of a flowering plant it seems very reluctant to root, I've tried it a number of times while flowering but only managed roots the once after I choked the stem by tightening wire around it, any tips getting the flowering to root would be very helpful?

Thanks SD
 

Boatguy

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Thank you @Boatguy I've done a similar thing but with limited success.
Are you talking about when in veg or flower or both?

I've got a rw cube wrapped around the stem of a flowering plant it seems very reluctant to root, I've tried it a number of times while flowering but only managed roots the once after I choked the stem by tightening wire around it, any tips getting the flowering to root would be very helpful?

Thanks SD
I have never tried the wire technique. I only airlayered a japanese maple branch 10yrs ago. Never on cannabis.
It doesnt appear that that is the goal in @woodsmantoker challenge. Nowhere does he say flower the mother or the clones. It was alittle unclear what the objective was there.... aside from setting up the scrog mother and airlayering clones afterward.
 

Star Dog

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You cut the outer skin away in a ring around the stem, big enough that it wont heal before it roots. Not too deep, just the skin
Wrap the wound in damp sphagnum moss, wrap that in plastic and tie/seal off the ends.
When you can see enough roots to sustain the branch, cut it off the branch under the roots and plant in whatever medium you choose.
Oddly enough I've never tried it with a vegging plant?
But I'm now thinking that would be a good method for avoiding a number of clones to look after :D

I'm in the process of growing out 12/12 clones all potentially mothers, once I've decided on one I'm going to give it a try, picking rooted clones is very appealing.

Fwiw when I did manage to get a leggy flowering plant to re root (using wire) I was able to cut and repot, when the two half's were done they yeilded approx the same, a useful method for leggy plants.
I've not got my notes and I can't remember the time frame, I think I'd remember if was anything unusually long?

Thanks SD
 

tko2184

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I have a question, I vibe built a trellis out and transitioned the plants for three days then flipped them.D3381DAE-B250-4C33-838C-7877CB4A41BF.jpeg Now going on day 4-5 flower and the main kola is coming throwing in all them the same on one side when to defoliate and how much people keep saying bottom third and I get that but I look at these plants and think they 3AC2ABD4-AAED-4C12-8A48-7D61F637E4B7.jpegmaybe don’t need a defoliation but I know that isn’t correct either so that is what I am asking I wanted to not do it my way again and see what others thought

Pictures are top and bottom of the trellis would I be wrong to take everything under my trellis right now thanks452E7F52-DE2B-43A2-9E53-67AC31619142.jpeg
 

Growoolit

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<snipped> Now going on day 4-5 flower and the main kola is coming throwing in all them the same on one side when to defoliate and how much people keep saying bottom third and I get that but I look at these plants and think they maybe don’t need a defoliation but I know that isn’t correct either so that is what I am asking I wanted to not do it my way again and see what others though
Pictures are top and bottom of the trellis would I be wrong to take everything under my trellis right now thanks
If this was my grow, I'd lower the trellis and spread the plant out somewhat. Then train and veg another week or 2.
The main idea is to allow the trellis to have around 75% of the apertures filled before 12/12 is applied. Looks like it's currently at around 30% max.
Stripping the plants up to the trellis now is a sure way to disable the crop, IMO. It's only done to allow light penetration and ventilation to inner growth and you don't need that, based on the pics.
Hope this helps.
 

tko2184

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I’d much like to stay In Flower but willing to do what’s best I do know better for next time w this style of grow But I don’t mind if I can stay
 
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Growoolit

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I’d much like to salt at I. Flower but willing to do what’s best I do know better for next time w this style of grow
Your results will probably be good enough, so don't mess with it. Your crop ain't gonna like to stop the flower cycle, and restart later. That would be a good way to destroy the harvest potential.
Gonna suggest that, with this config and flower cycle, your main buds will be bigger and similar to a non-Scrog grow. Not a bad thing.
You'll also be able to compare with a true ScrOG grow next time. Some varieties prefer to be individuals, rather than part of a group, like us.
 
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tko2184

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But for the future it’s best to let them veg in the flower tent for 2 weeks or Around w my set up or bring them I’m taller and fill them out and let them become acclimated, then flip! I’m only flowering in this tent and have a room I veg in!
If that’s true then also I could be lower as u said but will leave alone this one for now in the other tent I have going I want to be 8-10 over pot or plant top With trellis? @Growoolit
 

Growoolit

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Generally, install the trellis on top of the canopy, then allow up to two weeks of veg growth while tucking branches under the trellis, until about 3/4 of the trellis holes have a branch in them. THEN, commit to 12/12 and continue tucking branches to fill the remaining vacant holes for up to two more weeks..
Even easier, search Scrog on Youtube and weedtube to clarify further.
 
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