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GreenThumbsMcgee

GreenThumbsMcgee

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GroDank101 said:
@GreenThumbsMcgee your plants are looking great, friend. It's good that they have the dark green color and they look so healthy at only 2 weeks, that means they will have all the energy they need to bloom strong, dense, and frosty buds. try to push as many fan leaves below the screen as you can, to expose the bud sites to direct light. Last thing, moisture can happen at any point where two leaves touch, so its a good idea to rustle them gently without disturbing the buds.
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i will post an update soon, it is growing like crazy man! Drinking a gallon a day!!!!
Hey, thanks for taking notice GroDank101! always nice to have people admire your hard work. This is just my 2nd scrog grow, and i feel I am getting it down a lot better this time. It has hit the point where tucking branches is no longer necessary because they are hardening up. I was pulling down a couple last night, and i ended up snapping one of them right off! i knew right then that it was time to stop tucking! as for the leaves though, i agree, better tuck them than cut them.....
its on Auto Pilot now!
stay tuned guys! its gonna bean impressive grow, i think!
thats the plan anyway!!!
 
thewanderingjack

thewanderingjack

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SO I'm new and interested in scrogging... not sure though.

I have a 3WX4LX4H closet.

Currently I top and LST to keep height down and increase the canopy horizontally instead.

Even so, in my environment ambient humidity is a problem... and in my last grow the canopy was so dense it trapped all the moisture coming up from the soil (rain forest style).... I got shrooms.

I'm also concerned about it being a pain... I like to do less work... so training them into the openings and then cutting them out kinda sounds like more hassle than it's worth (for me). On the other hand just throwing a screen (I have something already that would be perfect) and letting that manage my height without too much extra work sounds good.

Keep in mind I am a personal/hobby grower... my current grow is half assed at best and still looking to yield way more than I spent on it (time and money) vs buying pot, so it's all frosting to me. I am trying to find the best balance of lazy gardening and optimal output... which is my general gardening philosophy :-P
 
GreenThumbsMcgee

GreenThumbsMcgee

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thewanderingjack said:
SO I'm new and interested in scrogging... not sure though.

I have a 3WX4LX4H closet.

Currently I top and LST to keep height down and increase the canopy horizontally instead.

Even so, in my environment ambient humidity is a problem... and in my last grow the canopy was so dense it trapped all the moisture coming up from the soil (rain forest style).... I got shrooms.

I'm also concerned about it being a pain... I like to do less work... so training them into the openings and then cutting them out kinda sounds like more hassle than it's worth (for me). On the other hand just throwing a screen (I have something already that would be perfect) and letting that manage my height without too much extra work sounds good.

Keep in mind I am a personal/hobby grower... my current grow is half assed at best and still looking to yield way more than I spent on it (time and money) vs buying pot, so it's all frosting to me. I am trying to find the best balance of lazy gardening and optimal output... which is my general gardening philosophy :-P
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i find it easier to pull down a branch under the screeen than it is to tie down each one individually with twist ties, IMO. Its theoretically the same thing you have been doing, just that now, the screen is holding down your branches, rather than the twist ties, or whatever you are doing currently. I was the same as you, was dragging my feet, because it did seeem like more work than it was worth, but Im into my 2nd scrog grow, and wont look back. my yeilds are greatly improved. i am utilizing the entire footprint my light is putting down...
 
thewanderingjack

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GreenThumbsMcgee said:
i find it easier to pull down a branch under the screeen than it is to tie down each one individually with twist ties, IMO. Its theoretically the same thing you have been doing, just that now, the screen is holding down your branches, rather than the twist ties, or whatever you are doing currently. I was the same as you, was dragging my feet, because it did seeem like more work than it was worth, but Im into my 2nd scrog grow, and wont look back. my yeilds are greatly improved. i am utilizing the entire footprint my light is putting down...
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Yeah, I know it's basically the same... I think I'm just a foot dragger some times.. Not that it really seems that much easier either... idk... I mean I don't spend a lot of time training... I usually pull the bigger branches out and down to let the center come up... once and done... and I have my pots set up with wires already (like, they have holes on the rim or easy attaching).

Like I said I have something that should work really well... you know those sort of storage cubes that are like metal mesh and clip into squares by plastic corners? They are thick enough, round and coated, as well as the squares being a good size.

I think my main issue will really be humidity. My ambient humidity is insanely high... and running a dehumidifier in the box would a) mean less space and b) mean more power... My "plan"... thought really is to seal the box up more, run it a little hot to start so it can evaporate some water and then keep it pretty sealed... I will used a diy CO2: home brew in my box... prob corn whiskey, which I can later use for extracts anyway, or to run an alcohol lamp, which would add heat and CO2 (but also more water vapor hehe) so I will need minimal air exchange.

My current grow has been all about seeing what my plants can do in my ambient environment, which is kinda "extreme"... so I can figure out what I need to do to make my box work well for it.

I will let your words marinate and hopefully they will inspire me next round :)
 
Hollywood williams

Hollywood williams

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Week 5 of flower gsc+og first scrog and first time in soil ever took clone from this plant decided to go half way hydro and do a Hempy bucket scrog grow I might mainline the clone but not sure yet anybody have any pointers with Hempy scrog? Pics update
 

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GreenThumbsMcgee

GreenThumbsMcgee

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thought i would show off my second scrog in a 2x2 grow tent, using a 200W of cob led...
about 2 or 3 weeks in...
this is a rare dankness strain called "starkiller"
really looking forward to this one....
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GreenThumbsMcgee

GreenThumbsMcgee

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thewanderingjack said:
Yeah, I know it's basically the same... I think I'm just a foot dragger some times.. Not that it really seems that much easier either..

I will let your words marinate and hopefully they will inspire me next round :)
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maybe next time, i hear ya bro! when your ready, jump in!!! It took me awhile to dial it in, so at first, no it is NOT easier, by any means....but, i will say, we are our biggest deterrents that stand in the way, like, self doubt and shit...i knnow that was my prob. i looked on tons of textbook scrogs and thought, fuck it. lol, but i am very happy i took the plunge. its pretty easy once you got your routine. Good luck to ya buddy
 
thewanderingjack

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ok so I did hit one wall... my humidity... a little contact between two buds for too long/ or bud and wall... and I got a bit of rot... with scrog, this is more likely...
 
thewanderingjack

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yeah If I could run a dehumidifier it'd be ok... but not a lot of room... maybe with the minivert giving me under-stair space... but emptying that thing a lot kinda a pain... was trying to come up with an alternate concept... only things I came up was a hillbilly sack of DRY sawdust... should suck it right in... should be easy enough to bake dry... idk just spit ballin ;-P
 
calliandra

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thewanderingjack said:
ok so I did hit one wall... my humidity... a little contact between two buds for too long/ or bud and wall... and I got a bit of rot... with scrog, this is more likely...
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Oh not sure about it being more likely with a scrog, since you have total control over the spacing, which you don't really when the plants are freestanding -> they "roam", i.e. lean one way then another, and if you're not watching all the time they get into trouble. Also, when you have the plant spread out on a screen, it's easier to get a ventilator blowing up and through the budspaces...
LOL sorry for not making it easier on your decisionmaking? haha :bigjoint:
 
thewanderingjack

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calliandra said:
and if you're not watching all the time they get into trouble.
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that's the thing right there... I mean, not that I don't like paying my ladies attention... but if they get too demanding... well... you know, there's just so many other fish in the sea ;-)

haha, that sounded like something else...

I just mean I want to keep my work load low with my grow... I find most mistakes I make (and see other people making) come from messing with the plant too much (like new gardeners and over watering)... so I may best be served by other options... :)
 
calliandra

calliandra

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thewanderingjack said:
that's the thing right there... I mean, not that I don't like paying my ladies attention... but if they get too demanding... well... you know, there's just so many other fish in the sea ;-)

haha, that sounded like something else...

I just mean I want to keep my work load low with my grow... I find most mistakes I make (and see other people making) come from messing with the plant too much (like new gardeners and over watering)... so I may best be served by other options... :)
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LMAO yeah I gotcha ;)
That's the beauty of having so many options (as confusing as they can be sometimes) - you get to find the style that serves you best, all things considered, at a certain point in time, and can change it up anytime the considerations change. :rolleyes:
 
Hollywood williams

Hollywood williams

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Closing on week five girlscout cookies +og kush these are my girls under two Mars 300+ watt reflector LEDs I have learned a lot from this forum in just one scrog grow especially doing it in soil I am a hydroponics guy love the fast growth but heard and seen taste and smell might be better organically any advice is always welcome!!!



-I am a farmer by information and passion see me work
 

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ChrisOTK

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Fledgling grower here getting ready for my first RDWC system with a SCROG. I have spent the last 3 days mowing through this feed lol. Sooo many thanks to those who have posted, shared opinions and offered advice, Im learning slowly but surely!. I realize that this question may just require some experience with different grows but is there a "most efficient" size for a SCROG? for example, using a 1000w HPS, would an ideal net for a single plant under that light be a 4x4, 5x5? or is it really dependent upon the reflector and the footprint of the light? if this has been answered already, be gentle, there are a lot of pages to process!
 
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