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woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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Integra21 said:
The res temps have been pretty steady. I think its more strain and nutrient related. The last round I did of this Blue kush the same thing happened at the same time. For a one week period starting at week 5 of flower, there is too much of something in my nutrients. It happens right at the end of the first growth spurt in that week where it chills right before the second growth spurt starts. Hopefully Ill figure it out one of these grows, but it doesnt get any worse after that week and certainly doesnt seem to affect the yield, so its more of a curiosity rather that a problem that needs to be fixed.
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"I have a similar issue. I agree yield weight is little affected however "cause has effect". If you watch the development of trich’s under a scope you see how slight changes affect the rate of production, speed of development etc, and I am always driven nuts by the idea that I have room for improvement. Was curious."
 
woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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Thought I would spark some chat about harvest time. I know there are some new scroggers here getting close to the first harvest and you may have some questions about removal.

Anyone like to share some scrog cropping tips?

***(clean your screen or replace it after a few runs, screens get sticky and collect dust, dirt, pollen etc.)
 
BoomerBloomer57

BoomerBloomer57

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To late for me woody, I just laid em down in veg and have 60 days of funtime before I enter the scrog arena to deflower the limbs.

However,,,,,,,

I only use the Fiskars tho take the stems down. Never for trimming. I hand pluck the leaves.
Flushing last 2 weeks,,,,,,,
meh, I only feed to 650 ppm. GH veg and and then gh bloom, ph down. No need to flush while they are in the last two weeks of phenomenal
C02 assisted growth.

Go to Radio Shack and get the 60 to 100 power scope. You will see the trichoms like you need to to determine
if they are ready for the desired effect you want. (couch lock, head tripper, cloudy trichs clear trichs.

Work from the top down and give any buds under the canopy a day or three of good light.

Throw your stones and airline OUT. Replace with new.

Hydrotron?

Rinse, rinse, rinse, rinse and rinse again. I have a 100 lbs of that stuff in different stages of readiness.
I use a lot of it. Good long, repeated soaks in fresh water. This is another time I will use R/O.

When I finished a run in the 12x12 I would strip it down to the insulation, lights, pumps EVERYTHING out and washed with Bleach and water.
Inside walls same treatment. Coolers come out and get disinfected and CLEANED THOROUGHLY.

I'll stop.

I'm blubbering,,,,,,,

It's the way I do it.

bb57
 
sirwolf

sirwolf

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great info. i think that i will do this method on this grow. thanks for the great information and pictures. a little further in i will share some pics too.
 
Nitegazer

Nitegazer

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woodsmantoker said:
Thought I would spark some chat about harvest time. I know there are some new scroggers here getting close to the first harvest and you may have some questions about removal.

Anyone like to share some scrog cropping tips?

***(clean your screen or replace it after a few runs, screens get sticky and collect dust, dirt, pollen etc.)
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I would love to learn about techniques other use. My screen is just made of heavy nylon fishing line, and my 'technique' is simply cutting the plants and laboriously pulling them under the screen and out. I guess it works ok for the 18x40" cabinet I use, but it ain't a pretty process either.
 
BoomerBloomer57

BoomerBloomer57

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Integra21,

Props and Kudos on the Digital Cameras advice you gave to me.
I actually understood and applied your advice. They're getting better,,,,,,

flower Lab opens at 8 and I'll get some of the scrog.


Sincerely,
BoomerBloomer57
&
madds
 

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Nitegazer

Nitegazer

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I'd also like to get a sense of how many people here flush. I don't flush until the last couple of days before harvest. I haven't subscribed to the belief that 'starving' the plant for a week or two confers any benefit to taste or potency. I vape, and so the smoothness of the burn is meaningless to me (if smoothness comes from flushing at all).

I tend to think flavor is developed much more through curing, and spend a fair amount of time on that.
 
stelthy

stelthy

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Hi there, I have a good few grows under my belt and am considering a SCROG grow next time around.. my overall grow height from the base of the plant to the highest my cool-tube will go is about 1m 30cm. The grow cupboard is a Hydro DWC with most mod cons :) and is 2' x 4.5', ideally the more bud the better, and the bigger the plant, the topping etc all helps mass produce the herb, I have a 250w HPS ballast, a 400W HPS ballst and a 600W HPS ballst (all digital) and 5 large CFL holders... so I can pretty much use whatever lighting I like for the best results :) THIS IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, :) , so my question is how tall should I grow the ladies before I start to weave in the SCROG?? and is it a good idea if not essential to 'lolly-pop' ?? please reply asap many thanks, and possible REP for a great answer :) - STELTHY
 
Nitegazer

Nitegazer

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stelthy said:
Hi there, I have a good few grows under my belt and am considering a SCROG grow next time around.. my overall grow height from the base of the plant to the highest my cool-tube will go is about 1m 30cm. The grow cupboard is a Hydro DWC with most mod cons :) and is 2' x 4.5', ideally the more bud the better, and the bigger the plant, the topping etc all helps mass produce the herb, I have a 250w HPS ballast, a 400W HPS ballst and a 600W HPS ballst (all digital) and 5 large CFL holders... so I can pretty much use whatever lighting I like for the best results :) THIS IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, :) , so my question is how tall should I grow the ladies before I start to weave in the SCROG?? and is it a good idea if not essential to 'lolly-pop' ?? please reply asap many thanks, and possible REP for a great answer :) - STELTHY
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I'll be curious what other have to add, but I like to have at least five pairs of branches under the screen-- that makes the height different for different strains. The Blue Cheese that I am growing now needs only about 6" after topping and LST. My next strain, which is sativa dominant, will probably be 12-16".

Nice setup btw, it looks clean and efficient.

I consider lolly-popping to be antithetical to scrog-- the whole point is to have numerous side branches and to avoid a dominant cola. Since a bushy plant is preferable, prune as little as possible until a couple weeks into flowering; then you might want to remove some of the smaller branches that have little chance of getting up to the light.
 
BoomerBloomer57

BoomerBloomer57

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Here's my 2 cents worth,,,,,
Scroggin

I like my girls, 70 Indica-30 Sativa, to stretch out a little before screening them. I let em get up thigh high, maybe 3ft.
Then I lay that screen down close to the net pot. Or if madds screws it up and waits too long to transfer they get to be hard to train and taller plants may snap in the process.

We lower the screen gradually, couple inches an hour until the screen is level and secured to floor.

I've had to run a couple "high" screens with the below canopy flowers going crazy, the light set up w/2k watts gave me a deep enough penetration too pull it off. Lolly -popping, avoid if possible Forget it with his Indicas.


bb
 

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Integra21

Integra21

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BoomerBloomer57 said:
Integra21,

Props and Kudos on the Digital Cameras advice you gave to me.
I actually understood and applied your advice. They're getting better,,,,,,

flower Lab opens at 8 and I'll get some of the scrog.


Sincerely,
BoomerBloomer57
&
madds
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Looks like they keep getting better. Keep up the good work and practice makes perfect.
 
woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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Nitegazer said:
I'd also like to get a sense of how many people here flush. I don't flush until the last couple of days before harvest. I haven't subscribed to the belief that 'starving' the plant for a week or two confers any benefit to taste or potency. I vape, and so the smoothness of the burn is meaningless to me (if smoothness comes from flushing at all).

I tend to think flavor is developed much more through curing, and spend a fair amount of time on that.
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I wash my plant down with distilled water to remove debris that may have collected over the course of the growing period. I also want to be certain to remove any chemicals that may have been sprayed on (insecticides, foliar etc.). Other substances can also vaporize.

If the smoke burns the throat and leaves a black charcoal; the plant was heavily loaded. This could be seen as something that is corrected through flushing however, if nutrient levels are correct it’s unnecessary.
 
woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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stelthy said:
Hi there, I have a good few grows under my belt and am considering a SCROG grow next time around.. my overall grow height from the base of the plant to the highest my cool-tube will go is about 1m 30cm. The grow cupboard is a Hydro DWC with most mod cons :) and is 2' x 4.5', ideally the more bud the better, and the bigger the plant, the topping etc all helps mass produce the herb, I have a 250w HPS ballast, a 400W HPS ballst and a 600W HPS ballst (all digital) and 5 large CFL holders... so I can pretty much use whatever lighting I like for the best results :) THIS IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, :) , so my question is how tall should I grow the ladies before I start to weave in the SCROG?? and is it a good idea if not essential to 'lolly-pop' ?? please reply asap many thanks, and possible REP for a great answer :) - STELTHY
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You're cab looks tech, clean, and highly efficient. Excellent work! I would suggest a screen that can be raised and lowered in position once it is introduced. Train the plant to become as bushy as possible in order to fill the space rapidly. Once the space is closing in with veggitation creating a sea of green, lower the screen down and pull the best tops through each hole. Remove what you don’t use above the screen as a cola site. Switch to flower.

DWC is fast enough that this method works best for me. I would also suggest using the 600.

Woodsman
 
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