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hey all just curious, how far along into flowering do you guys generally stop training?

I assume if you want an even canopy, you have to keep tuckin ALL of the stem ends under the screen until you want to let them all start stretching up wards a bit above the screen.

So would a plan loosley based on this work?

-Once screen is about 50% full, switch to 12/12/
-Continue weaving stem ends under netting until the rest of the screen is filled up
-Strop training, allow plant to grow up wards through the screen for the rest of stretch period+flowering.

Is this about right?

Thanks

Sup Woodsman? I am loving this thread! I am doing my first Scrog with one Fire OG kush plant in a 5 gallon pot. I heard great things about Scrogging so I decided to give it a try! I am in my third week of veg and I have a few tops that are breaking thru the screen. When they reach at least 3 inches I plan to guide it to a farther hole, so I can let the other tops grow up to the screen and create an even canopy. I was a little confused and skeptical at first, but after reading most of this thread, I am confident on what I am about to do! Thank you for all your help!

I would train the first two weeks of flower...after that....let the bitch do her own thing!!!

S.V.T. said:

I love the scrog!!! here's my current setup...
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Hands down fantastic! Now SVT has reached new hights that I would like to strongly commend the effort on. As I am sure he will tell you, a beautiful garden such as this reaps its rewards!
Keep us up SVT!

-Once screen is about 50% full, switch to 12/12/
-Continue weaving stem ends under netting until the rest of the screen is filled up
-Strop training, allow plant to grow up wards through the screen for the rest of stretch period+flowering.

Sounds good in theory, however half a screen rarely fills in two weeks granted its not a 2' X 2'. Use your preflower stretch to gain hight above the screen... Moved lights help in filling screens....

Woodsman: I am in my 19th day of Veg, and my lil girl has finally hit my SCROG screen. Do you think that it will be possible for my screen to be 70% full by Day 30th? In 19 days my plant has grown 12.5 inches and really filled up from when I got it as a clone. Here are some recent pics.

WolfScott said:

I just finished building and setting up an 8 foot by 3 foot scrog table, under a 1000 watt light with a 7 foot light mover. I wish I could take you up on that one plant scrog offer, but I don't have the time for a long vegg cycle. My home is currently under foreclosure, and I don't know how long I may have before they kick me out! I just hope I can get one or two grows done first!
I will be using 5-7 Aurora Indica clones already started, fimmed and ready to move to the scrog room this Friday. I'll start a journal and post the link here then. I'll be using Black Gold Organic potting mix, in 5 gallon square pots. I'll post up some pics of the plants so far , and then On Friday I'll post up some pics of the new set up & equipment!

I don't know what nutes I want to use this time? I have Bio Canna which I never used before, but I have heard good things, and then I have Fox Farm which I've used for years.

What would you use if your were is my shoes? This question is for all!

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Between those two I would use the whole FOX Farm setup. It does the job just fine! I am trying this new nutrient by House and Garden. My Hydro store was ranting and raving about it, so I got the whole setup on my current grow. I heard great things about it, and you can start feeding full strength right off the bat and every feeding!

TheOrganic said:

Tell me about it! Just something about hanging drywall, crappy job of construction
I'm going 5gal soil FFOF 4 plants Thought about hydro would be ideal for my height but I will manage with my screen. Seen a scrog grow in person awhile back so I have good idea what I need to do.

Buckets will sit 4.5in off ground, And the buckets are 15in tall cause I'm gonna double them up for a drainage system I'm going to build on the bottom of the outside bucket. It's pretty much a replica of the one I saw with some mods for my situation.

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How did your grow turnout? I am currently doing 1 plant scrog in a 5 gallon bucket using FFOF and House and Garden Nutrients

ninjagaiden said:

hey all just curious, how far along into flowering do you guys generally stop training?

I assume if you want an even canopy, you have to keep tuckin ALL of the stem ends under the screen until you want to let them all start stretching up wards a bit above the screen.

So would a plan loosley based on this work?

-Once screen is about 50% full, switch to 12/12/
-Continue weaving stem ends under netting until the rest of the screen is filled up
-Strop training, allow plant to grow up wards through the screen for the rest of stretch period+flowering.

Is this about right?

Thanks

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What's up man. Well, everyone has their own little differences and eccentricities when it comes to scrog. I've noticed that many do it very differently and most do it wrong.

First, there is no recipe for success or single method that's applicable to every strain and setup. You decide to stop training because you know the plant and how much bigger it will get and how high above the screen you want it. With a new strain, I would say fill it up 60(filled)/40(empty) for indica dom and 50/50 for even hybrids and 40/60 for sativa dom. Then train till the END of stretch. Once you know your plant and it's stretchiness or lack there of, you should start playing with growing it a little higher above the screen and only a little. That's most people's mistake, growing wayyyyy to high above the screen. Exactly how high you can go is ruled mainly by one thing, spacing. The taller you go....the more spaced out the colas will have to be to get light to most of the cola. I see so many scrogs where people just let it go and it ends up 1.5' to 2.5' above the screen densely packed together which is completely against the point and doesn't help yield and definately not quality. If you don't know how much it will stretch and decide to stop before the end you can get in trouble since you can't pull most branches back under the screen without breaking them once they get about 10" above the screen. Fortunately though, if you're are a little overgrown you can always cut branches out to make more room at the risk of a little stress.

Second, NO weaving. You pull them back under the screen when they are about 3"-4" above it and move them to the next hole going in the direction that you've planned for it. That's for a screen with 2"x2" mesh. Let them go about 6" above the screen if you're using 4"x4" mesh. If you weave they're stuck. Many times I've had to move a bud site a foot or more to fill in an area. Can't do that if you weave.

Here's my cheese that I trained till the end of stretch. 15 day veg, 4oz. per, 4"-6" dense nugs. Could have been better too. I should have vegged another few days and filled up more of the screen. When they stopped stretching I had them at 3"-4" above the screen and they finished out at 4"-6". Could have gone another 2" with the spacing I had.

Right now I am dealing with an overgrown scrog. I'm excited about it though. Gives me a good chance to learn how to correct one while my grow is still small. Click on medical scrog 2.0 below to check it out. I haven't updated the overgrown room's pics for about a week. Will do soon though and you'll see a jungle. later

Here's how I do things. I have to change rooms to stay perpetual so I'm not able to set up my screen until I switch the light cycle. I grow tall plants. My last round half of my plants were 6 ft. tall before they went under the screen and the other half I did a very simple method of training that is bending the main top over gently and then as it re-orients itself i pull it back down. In my experience this creates a lot of branching and is very low stress. If you do it right you can control the height of all of the branches on the plant, but my goal is to create as many long branches as i can. I'll add some bamboo to help train. View attachment 1540033View attachment 1540032View attachment 1540035

here's what it's like when I move them in.
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Ya well, results speak for themselves SVT and yours are looking pretty good. The pics on the previous page are a little deceptive. It looked like the screen was much lower because of your tall ceiling. After looking at your stuff, you kinda have to grow them taller so that you can get underneath the middle of the screen without killing yourself. Glad to see you've successfully adapted the technique to your your setup.

I have a question. Can I turn off my exhaust fan if I use CO2 in the room without affecting the grow? This is my first ScRog grow and I have a 4x4 tent with a 600 watt lamp. I have a 8" exhaust fan for the room and leave the side panels cracked to draw fresh air in.

Hello SCRogenthusiasts!

I attached a few photos of my current endeavour at a SCRog grow in a ebb and flow system.(First attempt)

They are about 1 week in to 12/12 and I belive the strain (C99) Has a bit more stretch left.

Any tips or recommendations to make things better?

I just put-together a Top-Drip bucket and I wanna scrog-it.
But I need to be able to get inside the bucket pretty often,
so I need to figure-out a way to attach the removable top portion of the bucket to a scrog frame
so I don't damage the plant when I lift up the top portion of the bucket if that makes sense.
Anybody got any ideas?
Thanx!

medicalgrowman said:

I just put-together a Top-Drip bucket and I wanna scrog-it.
But I need to be able to get inside the bucket pretty often,
so I need to figure-out a way to attach the removable top portion of the bucket to a scrog frame
so I don't damage the plant when I lift up the top portion of the bucket if that makes sense.
Anybody got any ideas?
Thanx!

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Right above you is my post.....I have a Screen that is attached to the top portion of my flood and drain system. I just lift up on the top part and my whole screen and table w/ plants comes up, no damage at all.

Look at the pics to get an idea. All I did was use PVC to make a frame above it and then used zip ties to secure it to the top half of my system. Get creative dude, you can rig something up.

Hi Guys, I am on Day 31 of Veg, and was planning to switch to flower on Friday (3 more days). Do you think this is too soon to switch to flower? This is my first attempt at SCROG. I have a good amount of the screen filled up, but was waiting for 70% of the screen to be filled. What do you guys think?

Just checking in guys.

I'm back and it's gonna get insane.

Friday morning the Flower Lab gets fired up.

With many new and mindblowing improvements.

Be nice and I'll share.

I guarandamntee this set up will bring a tear to yer eyeballs.

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Back in the Labs sans Madds.

So Im just getting the end of my veg cycle and I am attempting my first scrog. My grow room is 4x4x7 and I made my own frame the same dimensions of my room (4x4) and tied string to nails I put in every 6 inches.

Im growing in soil, in 7 Gal smartpots, and have set the screen to be 19-20 inches from the tops of the pots. Of the six plants Ive got in there, 2 are poking about 3 inches above the screen from their main stalk, other branches are about 7 inches away. My other hybrid is about 2 inches from poking through the screen from its main stalk.

My indicas are just really bushing out and are just over a foot tall, not really close to the screen at all. I have been vegging for 7 weeks, but honestly probablly put myself back 2 weeks from waiting to transplant and not feeding well enough. Those problmes are fixed and these plants are growing fast.

My question(s) is, do you experienced scroggers think its still to early to flip my lights? Im a little worried Ill switch to flower and the plants wont completely fill out my screen. I really wish I took a pic this morning so you could see what I was talking about but hopefully you have a pretty good Idea from the explanation.

Do you think I might have set my screen to high above the plants at 20"? Im flowering with a 1000w hps. How high would you suggest I keep my light above my screen? From what I have read I have gathered between 18-24 inches will be good. Thoughts?

rrmcmaho said:

So Im just getting the end of my veg cycle and I am attempting my first scrog. My grow room is 4x4x7 and I made my own frame the same dimensions of my room (4x4) and tied string to nails I put in every 6 inches.

Im growing in soil, in 7 Gal smartpots, and have set the screen to be 19-20 inches from the tops of the pots. Of the six plants Ive got in there, 2 are poking about 3 inches above the screen from their main stalk, other branches are about 7 inches away. My other hybrid is about 2 inches from poking through the screen from its main stalk.

My indicas are just really bushing out and are just over a foot tall, not really close to the screen at all. I have been vegging for 7 weeks, but honestly probablly put myself back 2 weeks from waiting to transplant and not feeding well enough. Those problmes are fixed and these plants are growing fast.

My question(s) is, do you experienced scroggers think its still to early to flip my lights? Im a little worried Ill switch to flower and the plants wont completely fill out my screen. I really wish I took a pic this morning so you could see what I was talking about but hopefully you have a pretty good Idea from the explanation.

Do you think I might have set my screen to high above the plants at 20"? Im flowering with a 1000w hps. How high would you suggest I keep my light above my screen? From what I have read I have gathered between 18-24 inches will be good. Thoughts?

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Are you using two different strains?? Its what it sounds like to me.
That is always a bad move.
One might stretch more than the other, one side will be fuller then the other.

Can you some how slant the screen. Making it shorter for the one smaller plants going bigger to the side with the larger plants? I would wait to see a pic to judge if you should flip the lights any time soon.