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I get the sick feeling that im fucking this all up...... i feel like i have alot of little growth but nothing big.....
I am judging solely be pics i have seen of other scrogs... the seem to have larger longer branches, that seem to grow to a few inches before they are brought back under the screen. I have been tucking them back under when ever they are large enough to reach the next square in my screen......i fear this is wrong. I fear i will end up with tons of little nugs that wont amount to shit. Popcorn buds they seem to be called. Im trying to promote new branch growth, and i seem to be achieving that goal, but i fear i have gone over board and now have to many small one, and might need to let them grow out a bit like i see in the pics online......But 90% of the scrog pics are during flower, and its hard to judge>.<
Im just afraid that when i pull them through im not giving it enough time to grow before i pull it back through....


here are the most recent pics.

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Im fucking bummed, i spent the day looking at scrog pics and comparing my plants with the others i saw, and now i feel like a dope. The girls are strong as hell, they grow despite my tinkering so i know its not them. they have had ONE nute feeding, and i only did 1/3 what it said on teh bottle to combat nute burns.

They still seem to get a few holes here and there , but i think its the pulling through the screen etc, i have checked for bugs, and water on teh leaves post watering.

P.S. If there are any other pic that i can take that will help you guys help me, let me know, ill get in there like National Geographic and get the shots you need to see whats going on.

Bud size is controlled by more than node spacing, but close is not a bad thing. If you want taller colas, let the tops grow vertically once the screen is full. Worry not!

So you think id be best served by removing teh screen and adding it back later??

Do I have a SCroG setup. Two plants, about 16 X 10 inches of screen with 2" holes. My screen is about 8" above my reservoir in my DWC setup. I started my "girls" from feminized seeds. They are starting to get bushy and have not yet reached the height of the screen. I have NOT topped them or done any kind of LST. Every now and then, I bend the main stalk to make sure it is still pliable. Am I going to be simply tucking the main stalk and the other branches back under the screen when they begin to poke through? I have never grown with a SCroG, obviously, and am looking for the easiest way for a beginner.

Im going to try and SCROG this grow with around 6-8 plants. Half is going to be SLH and the other half is going to be Tangerine Dream. I might throw in my last O.G Kush to but im not sure yet. Right now im stuck on what kind of netting to use. I found a garden trellis that has 5" square holes but is that too big? What is the best size holes to use and where can I get it at??? Also, since there haze's how high up should I have the screen away from my 7gal pots?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
BigBudE

Questio....3' wide, 5' high, 22'' deep grow space.......what are the thoughts of growin a bushy plant to about 2' tall then just bending here over for 4/5 days allowing to adjust, then drop the screen in place. I know the braches would be harder to handle but can be held in place with small gauge wire, zip ties or what ever.......for some one not around daily to do the basket weaving thang....lol

I have been growing scrog for years. Once you go Scrog , you don't go back...

NoSwag said:

New to scrogging but giving a shot at it..with 6 plants! any suggestions on clones? (sativa dominant preferred)
Also any suggestions on this setup, going for T5 lighting for electricity reasons, but I also have a 600W MHL for backup, but any thoughts on it?

The Setup:
GL80L
Can MaxFan 6"-334 cfm
Maxlume T5 Light System
Can-Filter 33-13"
Extra T5 bulbs and T5 flowering bulbs
Backup 400w HPS and 600w MHL

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God I would run into some trouble a day before growing. I did not realize how much work it takes to move a grow setup to another house.

Also Philosophist, I lol'd when When I ask for pointers and how your enjoying scraining next post I see this

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Philosophist said:

I get the sick feeling that im fucking this all up....

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Im using a grow tent that 8ft long X 4ft wide and 7ft tall. How many plants should I scrog in there without getting over crowded? Im using a 600 HPS/MH and a 4ft long 8 bulb T5 light and a smaller 2x2 6 bulb T5. I wish I had another 600 instead of the T5's though! that would be great! As far as pot size im using 7 gal pots and all organic Super Soil... wich i love. Im still not sure if i should use a metal netting or a nylon garden trellis for the screen and where to get the correct size stuff at.
anybody who replys to this is much appreciated.
BigBudE

BigBudE said:

Im using a grow tent that 8ft long X 4ft wide and 7ft tall. How many plants should I scrog in there without getting over crowded? Im using a 600 HPS/MH and a 4ft long 8 bulb T5 light and a smaller 2x2 6 bulb T5. I wish I had another 600 instead of the T5's though!
anybody who replys to this is much appreciated.
BigBudE

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Ahah you wouldnt happen to be running the maxlume T5 light system would ya?

I was running the T5 setup and have a 600W HPS/MH as backups, and was pleased, when flipped to 12/12 I was running half Veg T5 and half sunblaze T5's, the girls were looooving it.

As to how many plant you should grow, thats a really large space, but it truley is up to you I was doing 6 in a GL80L Scrog thats 2'7" wide x 2'7" deep x 5'11" tall, and it wasn't too tight.

if im useing scrog does anyone know if its better to use either a indika or a sativa

Once again you can read back in this very thread and find similar questions and answers. But generally indicas grow shorter and bushier with a lower "stretch" at the beginning of flowering allowing for a more even Scrog canopy. But with so many hybrids and other strain specific factors you can Scrog anything..... it really is subjective to what "better" means to someone. Better for what do you mean? Good luck man

-JAC

hey everyone
i have setup my 1st scrog so the setup :
converted wardrobe
150w hps
scrog (soil)
4" extractor
6" intake
9" desktop
m/g all purpose plant feed
flora micro
super bud blaster
greenhouse a.m.s ( had a nirvana papaya but had to chop it 4 cuttings due to a noob mistake)
any ways into 27 days flowering now and looking good i think some pics enjoy D.

Mr. Medical said:

if im useing scrog does anyone know if its better to use either a indika or a sativa

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First you should learn how to spell it.

B nice. spelling is not super important. Mr medical its not about whats better. You need to find what suits you and helps with your specific medical needs. May I ask what is your diagnosis?

Im not sure what brand the T5's are. I picked them both up at a flea market with a bunch water and air pumps and a bunch of home made DWC buckets, and extra bulbs. All for $100 so i couldnt pass that up, I think the smaller 1 says badboyyz on it though.
Last time I had 7 SLH and I wasnt scrogging, only thing i did was FIM and it took up every bit of the tent! They got so tall they were hitting the lights! and the braches so inretwined with each other it was hard to tell what branch went to what plant! I guess thats becouse Ive not developed any kind of prunning method yet...Im always confused on where and how much to remove for the plants to actually bennifit from it. The yeild was still unbelievably good though.
Im sure every question I asked so far is somewhere in this massive 184 page post but its hard to find the "right" page and would take forever to read it, and thats what these post are about learning to scrog.
BigBudE

just an update on my scrog.they just touching the screen(week 4 from seed)2xice,2xwhite ice.1xak48,1xsuperbud,.....ph is 5.8....ec0.9...looks lush and green ...also i have a 150w enviro(thanks pass de dutchy)and a 125w above the screen using canna coco a+b in aquapots...so heres some pics for you all to look at...will prob update this on 22nd.....happy growing fellow farmers peaceView attachment 1736555View attachment 1736561View attachment 1736560View attachment 1736559View attachment 1736558View attachment 1736557View attachment 1736556

Training for Scrog - SCRAINING

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These plants were trained (Via LST only) into the mostly symmetrical shapes that you see in order to be ready to fill the space given ( 4' x 4' x 6' Tent). The Screen was 3' x 4' and stood 24 inches from the floor. The plants were ready for the screen at this stage, and this same day were placed into SCROG.

View attachment 1736552 This image is of Day ONE in Scrog. The branches are tight against the bottem of the screen at placement and needed to be adjusted. The branches that could extend outward were helped and placed accordingly, the small new shoots that could make it though the screen were pulled through. The plant was manipulated as to allow as much light penetration as possible to new growth.

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After one week, the tops have grown vertically enough to be pulled back through and placed in screen holes further away from center, filling much more of the screen than at week one. At this point, 70 - 80% of the screen is filled and flowering is started.

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The tops at the furthest distance from center are also the furthest away from the light and respond by stretching.

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Week two of screening. Week one of flowering. Lighting was increased from 400hps to 800hps at week one of flowering. Knowing that this plant stretches gave opportunity for tall colas. Knowing the plant also allowed for this to be done without the fear of over crowding once in full bloom. This strain produces smaller less compact buds however was cultivated in a manner that achieved the goal of a tent full of tall sweet JC2 colas.

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At the final stages of flowering, mylar reflective sheeting was used to cast light into shaded areas as a result of leaning colas. "Secondary screen is also highly effective means of keeping colas upright at this stage (large mesh 5" or larger typically works well)"

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The result.

that was my number one frack up..... NOT lst'ing. if i could go back in time and tell myself one thing that would be it.