eport: 83 percent of doctors have considered quitting over Obamacare

RyanTheRhino

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see im gonna go ahead and call total and absolute bullshit. break a leg and be finically fucked?? really???
someone lives at home and don't pay bills :clap:... what you gonna do for food and bills when you cant work...

& if you get hurt at work have fun passing that piss test if you post on here..


plus if you have the money to endured this then you already have health insurance so yea.. you got no room to talk
 

tomahawk2406

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someone lives at home and don't pay bills :clap:... what you gonna do for food and bills when you cant work...

& if you get hurt at work have fun passing that piss test if you post on here..


plus if you have the money to endured this then you already have health insurance so yea.. you got no room to talk

im gonna have insurance, because its smart too.....?
 

RyanTheRhino

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im gonna have insurance, because its smart too.....?

face palm..... this is about doctors not getting insurance companies to pay them. And if you already have health care why do you support Obama care?

And the insurance coverage by the healthcare reform will be crappy. It will basically be just for people to get checkups, shots, maybe a few Pharmaceuticals and physicals. If you ever need anything serious like broken legs or cancer any type of surgery you are still going to have to pay it out of your pocket. Unless you are poor and cant pay it the expenses will fall on the hospitals and doctors who have to beg the insurance companies for compensation. The bill will force doctors to accept every one as a patient even those who are poor and cant pay for it. The doctors cant turn theses people away anymore and the standard insurance from the bill dose not cover expensive things so the doctors are stuck with the bill.


So why be a doctor if you have to fight to be paid and spent 8 years & $200,000 in student loans just to pay the interest off the rest of your life.


I broke my knee and had to take 2 MRIs & have surgery. Each MRI would have cost $6000 a piece & the surgery would have cost $20,000 add anther $5000 for the anesthesiologist to knock me out.

Thats $37,000. I have good insurance and i still had to pay $8000 don't know about you but that's not pocket change
 

ChesusRice

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Ryan apparently you know absolutly nothing about the law
Get your head out of limbaughs ass and go read at least the summary of the law at healthcare.gov
 

tomahawk2406

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face palm..... this is about doctors not getting insurance companies to pay them. And if you already have health care why do you support Obama care?

And the insurance coverage by the healthcare reform will be crappy. It will basically be just for people to get checkups, shots, maybe a few Pharmaceuticals and physicals. If you ever need anything serious like broken legs or cancer any type of surgery you are still going to have to pay it out of your pocket. Unless you are poor and cant pay it the expenses will fall on the hospitals and doctors who have to beg the insurance companies for compensation. The bill will force doctors to accept every one as a patient even those who are poor and cant pay for it. The doctors cant turn theses people away anymore and the standard insurance from the bill dose not cover expensive things so the doctors are stuck with the bill.



So why be a doctor if you have to fight to be paid and spent 8 years & $200,000 in student loans just to pay the interest off the rest of your life.


I broke my knee and had to take 2 MRIs & have surgery. Each MRI would have cost $6000 a piece & the surgery would have cost $20,000 add anther $5000 for the anesthesiologist to knock me out.

Thats $37,000. I have good insurance and i still had to pay $8000 don't know about you but that's not pocket change
dude lol, face palm yourself
 

Dr Kynes

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face palm..... this is about doctors not getting insurance companies to pay them. And if you already have health care why do you support Obama care?

And the insurance coverage by the healthcare reform will be crappy. It will basically be just for people to get checkups, shots, maybe a few Pharmaceuticals and physicals. If you ever need anything serious like broken legs or cancer any type of surgery you are still going to have to pay it out of your pocket. Unless you are poor and cant pay it the expenses will fall on the hospitals and doctors who have to beg the insurance companies for compensation. The bill will force doctors to accept every one as a patient even those who are poor and cant pay for it. The doctors cant turn theses people away anymore and the standard insurance from the bill dose not cover expensive things so the doctors are stuck with the bill.


So why be a doctor if you have to fight to be paid and spent 8 years & $200,000 in student loans just to pay the interest off the rest of your life.


I broke my knee and had to take 2 MRIs & have surgery. Each MRI would have cost $6000 a piece & the surgery would have cost $20,000 add anther $5000 for the anesthesiologist to knock me out.

Thats $37,000. I have good insurance and i still had to pay $8000 don't know about you but that's not pocket change
you got off cheap, between mri's, x-rays, 3 surgeries, physical therapy, medications, and the hospital stays my ruined knee cost my insurance company upwards of $200K, they sent me dupes of all the invoices just to make sure i knew who to thank for being able to walk without a zimmerframe, and i did know, i thanked my doctors. the insurance company was pushing for a knee replacement but my doc told them to eat dicks and fixed my knee right. i got an extra 20 years on it before it became too stiff to work in the feilds. now im considering going on disability rather than keep working for peanuts in a shitty shop in town. they keep threatening to fire me because i cant climb ladders no more.

needless to say theres not an insurance company in the land who will cover me for anything ever again. the affordable care act is bullshit. we will get cuban style medicine from government supplied doctors when the system breaks down as it is intended to do. i dont care what michael moore says cuban health care is not superior to ours, its not even preferrable, even if it is "free"
 

ChesusRice

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needless to say theres not an insurance company in the land who will cover me for anything ever again. the affordable care act is bullshit.
You need to get your head out of the right wings ass as well

What part of insurance companys cannot deny you for pre-existing conditions dont you understand?
 

canndo

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face palm..... this is about doctors not getting insurance companies to pay them. And if you already have health care why do you support Obama care?

Because without the plan your insurance company can drop you for any or no reason. Because if you have a lapse in coverage, you may not be able to get back on board. There are millions of men who take cholesterol meds and high blood pressure meds - their pre-existing conditions are being managed by the drugs but they are still pre-existing which means they don't get to be insured. If you lose your job you get a cobra - for a while, then you lose that and you are out in the open. Because if you run your insurance out for the year or for your lifetime then you are out of luck once again. The current law, shitty as it is provides for these details that snag millions each year - including me. I finally managed to get coverage but one more little health burp and I am out on my ear. Now consider this, you wake up with pain in your chest - you think - "I'd better go to the hospital" then you think but if it is something that is bad but not too bad, then I lose my coverage, maybe I should just stay home, but maybe it is something terrible, but it probably isn't but what if it is" Do you REALLY want to have those kinds of conversations with yourself? I know I don't.
 

NoDrama

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Dude, a broken leg can cost upwards of $30k and up, if you're making $30-$40k a year, you're for sure fucked!
Why would you be fucked? Every Hospital/doctor I have ever been to accepts payments, some will give you charity and pay the bill themselves, hell go put a change cup at the convenience store and beg for peoples quarters. It isn't against the law to be in debt and the MOST they can do is get a judgement on you after going to court. Declaring bankruptcy doesn't impoverish you or make you give up your car, home, clothing, TV, Appliances, land, or anything else that is essential.

You don't lose everything in Bankruptcy, you keep almost everything.
 

NoDrama

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you got off cheap, between mri's, x-rays, 3 surgeries, physical therapy, medications, and the hospital stays my ruined knee cost my insurance company upwards of $200K, they sent me dupes of all the invoices just to make sure i knew who to thank for being able to walk without a zimmerframe, and i did know, i thanked my doctors. the insurance company was pushing for a knee replacement but my doc told them to eat dicks and fixed my knee right. i got an extra 20 years on it before it became too stiff to work in the feilds. now im considering going on disability rather than keep working for peanuts in a shitty shop in town. they keep threatening to fire me because i cant climb ladders no more.

needless to say theres not an insurance company in the land who will cover me for anything ever again. the affordable care act is bullshit. we will get cuban style medicine from government supplied doctors when the system breaks down as it is intended to do. i dont care what michael moore says cuban health care is not superior to ours, its not even preferrable, even if it is "free"
Get the disability, you can still keep the job, but if they fire you for the knee you can sue for cause.
 

ChesusRice

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Why would you be fucked? Every Hospital/doctor I have ever been to accepts payments, some will give you charity and pay the bill themselves, hell go put a change cup at the convenience store and beg for peoples quarters. It isn't against the law to be in debt and the MOST they can do is get a judgement on you after going to court. Declaring bankruptcy doesn't impoverish you or make you give up your car, home, clothing, TV, Appliances, land, or anything else that is essential.

You don't lose everything in Bankruptcy, you keep almost everything.
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Yeah that is an awesome Idea
Except without insurance
they dont have to give you an appointment
They might have to set the leg at the emergency room
But that is all they are legally required to do
 

NoDrama

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Yeah that is an awesome Idea
Except without insurance
they dont have to give you an appointment
They might have to set the leg at the emergency room
But that is all they are legally required to do
They will give you an appointment buddy, its just a broken leg, its not like you are asking for a cool Million $ worth of care.
 

kelly4

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but why are you going to fuck over the ones who treat you. You end up with mediocre treatments and a lack of doctors
We'll never lack doctors...but, we will lack good doctors.

Might as well save your breath Rhino, they'll never get it.
 

canndo

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We'll never lack doctors...but, we will lack good doctors.

Might as well save your breath Rhino, they'll never get it.

Oh? what is a "good" doctor? one who is in it for as much profit as they can? or someone who signed on to doctoring in the first place as a way for them to help their fellows. The second group will be just as "good" under the new system as they are now. The first? maybe they will find another profession.
 

canndo

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Again
The right can predict the future

and it is always Scary
But now I have to say that the left's dire predictions are always scary as well, rising waters, illegal abortions, women as slaves, sickness and death for the poor, HIV in every home, corporate abuse resulting in death from a thousand sources, failures of the fisheries, poison in our water, our wombs, our air. Both sides love fear, just different fears
 

ChesusRice

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But now I have to say that the left's dire predictions are always scary as well, rising waters, illegal abortions, women as slaves, sickness and death for the poor, HIV in every home, corporate abuse resulting in death from a thousand sources, failures of the fisheries, poison in our water, our wombs, our air. Both sides love fear, just different fears
I have no brothers and sisters
In 1966 my mom came home where I lived with her and my grandmother
Off to the hospital
Supposedly at the age of 21
She had fallopian cancer and could never have kids after that

45 years later
I think we know the real story
Lucky she didnt die that night
 
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