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Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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HydroRed said:
Coco basically gets run like hydro from my understanding since it almost cant be overwatered like a hydro medium. I think you found the cause of your issues with #13. Stonironi is right on point with the fact that when coco dries up, it holds all the salts and it turns into lockup city. Never a chance for the salts to wash through and they build. I wouldn't give up on coco just yet. Though I have no actual experience in coco personally, I hear & read far more good about it than bad.
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My difficult part here is not knowing whether it's me or something out of my control. The dwc plants have bounced back beautifully with the Ionic and my tap water. I do not water until the pot gets dry and light, I cannot see how folks are watering huge pots of coco multiple times a day. The smaller pots ok and even then depends on the stage of life of the plant. The solo cups for sure. But to water a ten gallon coco pot multiple times a day I am not seeing that. Good news is she is not dead. Bad news is she still looks like shit.

I am on the verge of killer her off and her clones and moving on. I need flowers/meds and good stuff I do not have time to be BS'ing with such a finicky plant to grow some flowers. Especially with these beans on standby. I just really wanted to do a clone only thing for a bit to "stock up". Guess I will run some autos perpetual style for a bit while I mess with my photo periods in the second tent.

Seriously, I am just over this thing lol..........and onto a new project that has me motivated and the parts I was waiting on for my lights came today so........
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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Evil-Mobo said:
My difficult part here is not knowing whether it's me or something out of my control. The dwc plants have bounced back beautifully with the Ionic and my tap water. I do not water until the pot gets dry and light, I cannot see how folks are watering huge pots of coco multiple times a day. The smaller pots ok and even then depends on the stage of life of the plant. The solo cups for sure. But to water a ten gallon coco pot multiple times a day I am not seeing that. Good news is she is not dead. Bad news is she still looks like shit.

I am on the verge of killer her off and her clones and moving on. I need flowers/meds and good stuff I do not have time to be BS'ing with such a finicky plant to grow some flowers. Especially with these beans on standby. I just really wanted to do a clone only thing for a bit to "stock up". Guess I will run some autos perpetual style for a bit while I mess with my photo periods in the second tent.

Seriously, I am just over this thing lol..........and onto a new project that has me motivated and the parts I was waiting on for my lights came today so........
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I hear ya friend. Sometimes it's best to know when to move to the next adventure. At what point is it cheaper just to buy your medicine vs spending precious time and $$ on electricity and nutrients and potting supplies etc. for what "might be".
 
Stonironi

Stonironi

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Evil-Mobo said:
My difficult part here is not knowing whether it's me or something out of my control. The dwc plants have bounced back beautifully with the Ionic and my tap water. I do not water until the pot gets dry and light, I cannot see how folks are watering huge pots of coco multiple times a day. The smaller pots ok and even then depends on the stage of life of the plant. The solo cups for sure. But to water a ten gallon coco pot multiple times a day I am not seeing that. Good news is she is not dead. Bad news is she still looks like shit.

I am on the verge of killer her off and her clones and moving on. I need flowers/meds and good stuff I do not have time to be BS'ing with such a finicky plant to grow some flowers. Especially with these beans on standby. I just really wanted to do a clone only thing for a bit to "stock up". Guess I will run some autos perpetual style for a bit while I mess with my photo periods in the second tent.

Seriously, I am just over this thing lol..........and onto a new project that has me motivated and the parts I was waiting on for my lights came today so........
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That is why you do not grow coco plants in huge pots. 3 gallons pots are good and 5 gallon is what I used. Anything bigger and you go through waaaay too much water , especially ro. That was my problem with it also when you run 3/4 gallon through 5 plants 3 times in 12 hours you go through a lot of water. The plants would start getting light in that short of time too. HydroRed was right when saying treat coco like hydro in that it is very hard to over water coco , not impossible but it's hard. The more you water the more your roots fill the pot and the idea is to make your plant rootbound in a small pot that is constantly fed to grow huge. Sounds stupid right? That's how it works though. Too much work unless you have a auto water which is a whole other beast to work out lol. I'm not trying to detour you away from coco , I am just trying to help.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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HydroRed said:
I hear ya friend. Sometimes it's best to know when to move to the next adventure. At what point is it cheaper just to buy your medicine vs spending precious time and $$ on electricity and nutrients and potting supplies etc. for what "might be".
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Oh bro I'm not throwing the towel in on growing lol. I just don't have the time space and patience right now to deal with a finicky plant regardless of the reason.

She will be coming out tonight I already setup the next step in this grow. Things are gonna change hopefully for the better.

So guys I am sorry, but my Elev8 adventure is done. I am not even going to bother with the fem pack I got from them. I am not blaming them, but 12 beans, 2 didn't pop, three fems, and only one keeper and I couldn't get her to make it to flower. I am new and it's on me this grow has had lots of ups and downs. I will post a new thread soon and link it here.

Stay tuned because I'm not done. Shit is about to get real around here.........
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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Stonironi said:
That is why you do not grow coco plants in huge pots. 3 gallons pots are good and 5 gallon is what I used. Anything bigger and you go through waaaay too much water , especially ro. That was my problem with it also when you run 3/4 gallon through 5 plants 3 times in 12 hours you go through a lot of water. The plants would start getting light in that short of time too. HydroRed was right when saying treat coco like hydro in that it is very hard to over water coco , not impossible but it's hard. The more you water the more your roots fill the pot and the idea is to make your plant rootbound in a small pot that is constantly fed to grow huge. Sounds stupid right? That's how it works though. Too much work unless you have a auto water which is a whole other beast to work out lol. I'm not trying to detour you away from coco , I am just trying to help.
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Well then maybe I just don't have any business with coco. The last run with it I had zero issues and I have one 3x3 with three plants in it in coco with no issues. All plants same water source, nutes, etc. Just doesn't make sense to me. Also, the DWC girls bouncing back like they did but then the GG girl nothing......? I can see the frequent watering in a flood and drain etc but hand watering 5gal pots plus multiple times a day I'm sorry man to me that's asking for damn fungus gnats etc......
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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Evil-Mobo said:
Oh bro I'm not throwing the towel in on growing lol. I just don't have the time space and patience right now to deal with a finicky plant regardless of the reason.

She will be coming out tonight I already setup the next step in this grow. Things are gonna change hopefully for the better.

So guys I am sorry, but my Elev8 adventure is done. I am not even going to bother with the fem pack I got from them. I am not blaming them, but 12 beans, 2 didn't pop, three fems, and only one keeper and I couldn't get her to make it to flower. I am new and it's on me this grow has had lots of ups and downs. I will post a new thread soon and link it here.

Stay tuned because I'm not done. Shit is about to get real around here.........
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Sorry, I didnt mean to imply you were quitting, but more pros/cons of getting meds til your "next adventure" finishes.
I know you wouldn't give up that easy :mrgreen:
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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HydroRed said:
Glad you still have something to run.
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Always something to run bro, I just really wanted some GG to see what all the hype is about. Oh well. Onward and on to better things. I learned a lot even though it didn't make it. Well it was my decision to take it down. Let the auto finish while I build my lights and get the room situated. I need to have everything under control for the next grow. Still have four plants in veg too......
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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prelude to the new thread I will start my write up later today

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Two of my bigger dwc plants are not liking the transplant but the two new clones I have never had nicer growing plants before:
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It's on now soon we will be popping some beans from @shorelineOG my soil is cooking the 600 is in one of my 3x3's and the 320w COB in the other 3x3. I will be running the 6" fan and filter setup today on the 600w tent and the COB tent will stay with the little 4" setup because it's working and I do not want to fuck with the environment everything is dialed in there it just needs to produce.
 
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