Exactly Define Your God Experiment

Zaehet Strife said:

It just astounds me, how scared people are with the stories that their parents indoctrinated them with. You know within yourself that there is a possibility that there may be no heaven or hell, that there may be no existence after this one. And regardless of that knowledge you still choose to have "faith" and i ask myself why that is. With so much uncertainty, probability and so many possibilities they choose to have faith in this one idea, this one thought... when there are so many other ideas and thoughts that are way cool, so many ideas that you can make up for yourself... It is a combination of parental indoctrination... and fear. That is the only thing keeping people from dropping their dogmatic way of thinking. Fear that when you die, you might go to hell... and all you have to do is accept what others tell you to accept, and after you die you live forever. All you have to do is ask for forgiveness, you can still keep doing bad things, just ask for forgiveness and really mean it and your slate is wiped clean. Fear that you may never be able to see your loved ones who have perished again. You know that there is a possibility that these ideas may be wrong, why keep faith in them when there are so many other ideas out there to choose from. I say be brave, pick your own ideas and thoughts... don't let others think for you, think for yourselves.

Don't live your life in fear, don't let others choose what you think... because you are what you think, not what you think you are.

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Zaehet Strife said:

The truth is that there is no truth, and if you are true to yourself, if you are honest with yourself, you will come to the understanding that no matter how much truth you try to give yourself, there really isn't any at all.

It's all just... thought, ideas, imagination, wishful thinking. You can pretend you know all you want, but when you come face to face with yourself, when you become completely and utterly honest with yourself... you know, understand, and accept that there is no certainty...

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olylifter420 said:

zs, you know that within yourself, there is the possibility that you do not exist... most of dont... why do spend time trying to find something you do not believe in?

and to say that all of believers were '"indoctrinated" is stupid and silly man... this goes back to what i asked you awhile back,

what makes you think that you have experienced applies to EVERYONE else on this forum and on this planet?


the one living in fear is you man... all you do is bring up something that you do not believe in and asking questions such as "god experiment"! your fear of not knowing what believers have experienced is what consumes you because you have not been able to reach it and probably never will.

what makes you think also, that we have NOT PICKED our own IDEAS?


oh, now i know, it is cause we have been "INDOCTRINATED" LOLOLOLOL

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st0wandgrow said:

Perhaps you don't care for the term "indoctrinated", but what else would you call it? The fact of the matter is, we are not born with preconceived notions such as this. You were not born a Baltimore Ravens fan ....that is something that came to be based upon influences in your life. The same goes for religion. You weren't born a christian. People in your life influenced you to the degree that your chosen religion, and your god, became part of who you are. If you were born on a different part of the globe, you'd be the same person (physically) but your beliefs may be all together different. Different stimuli.

I don't believe in a god. I try to respect the opinions of others who disagree with me. I have my theory on how the whole god thing came to be, but that's only my opinion. I take a skeptical approach to most things in life that don't seem apparent to me. Be it god, aliens, ghosts, santa clause, etc.

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olylifter420 said:

zs, you know that within yourself, there is the possibility that you do not exist... most of dont... why do spend time trying to find something you do not believe in?

and to say that all of believers were '"indoctrinated" is stupid and silly man... this goes back to what i asked you awhile back,

what makes you think that you have experienced applies to EVERYONE else on this forum and on this planet?


the one living in fear is you man... all you do is bring up something that you do not believe in and asking questions such as "god experiment"! your fear of not knowing what believers have experienced is what consumes you because you have not been able to reach it and probably never will.

what makes you think also, that we have NOT PICKED our own IDEAS?


oh, now i know, it is cause we have been "INDOCTRINATED" LOLOLOLOL

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olylifter420 said:

aha, your logic and with what you have said, "the truth is that there is no truth" means that science is a joke!

yeah, i know there is no certainty in the exercise and strength and conditioning programs i assign to the athletes i train... you do not make sense man...

this makes what you say to be uncertain as well, so why spend so much time writing it if you know it is not certain and that these words you put together are not true?

you are passing on false statements so others can accept what you are trying to say; God does not exist

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Zaehet Strife said:

Its hard to argue with someone who is feeding themselves with the delusion of knowing things... that they really only think they know.

I never said i believe god does not exist, that would put me in the same exact category as people who believe god does exist.

The only thing i have ever said is the only intelligent thing anyone could say about the matter.

I do not know. But i do have some ideas.

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Zaehet Strife said:

The truth is that there is no truth, and if you are true to yourself, if you are honest with yourself, you will come to the understanding that no matter how much truth you try to give yourself, there really isn't any at all.

It's all just... thought, ideas, imagination, wishful thinking. You can pretend you know all you want, but when you come face to face with yourself, when you become completely and utterly honest with yourself... you know, understand, and accept that there is no certainty...

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Beefbisquit said:

"The truth is there is no truth", is a contradictory sentence. How can you claim it be the truth while denying that truth exists? Subsequently, please explain to me how you can be true (a positive truth statement) to yourself, if truth doesn't exist, by your own definition?

There is truth, people just suck at perceiving it.

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olylifter420 said:

no zs,you are the one making this delusional...'
i am claiming to know about my career and other things in life besides spiritual enlightenment.
That is all you have been doing man, making this about your own beliefs compared to a believers belief in God...

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Zaehet Strife said:

my apologies, i meant honesty with oneself when i said true to oneself. i was trying to emphasize honesty with oneself by useing true to oneself, which causes misunderstanding. sorry

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Zaehet Strife said:

exactly, the closest way to get to honesty is to realize within that there is no truth when dealing with any theological claim.

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Zaehet Strife said:

amazingly awesome video, thank you luger

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