Examples of Democratic Party leadership

DIY-HP-LED

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Don’t know how I missed this at the time…this is WONDERFUL!
(Even better than the ‘Luther the Anger Translator’)

THAT is a fucking PRESIDENT, the best one we’d had in a very long time
We are insanely fortunate to have Joe in the job…& I NEVER would have believed that my assessment of him would change so much over time. Then again, I see evolution happening around me every day

NOT his “resignation” speech - still had 9? months in office
White House Press Corps Presidential Dinner. Annual thing, almost always edgy & controversial: the one hosted by Stephen Colbert when Shrub was prez is jaw-dropping. Look up Luther the anger translator on YT, too. It’s a press roast of the president & his admin/policies, and the prez gets to fire back & roast the ecosystem. Trump never attended one as President; IIRC TFFG was mightily offended by something Obama said at one of these (TFFG being *in the room at the time*) & he hasn’t been back since

(boilerplate: there’s things I think Joe should & shouldn’t do, things I wish he would & wouldn’t do, and I feel right strongly about a bunch of ‘em. I’m the same principled constitutional conservative I was raised to be & always have been, and I’m strict about it, the rule of law, and the common law - which our entire cultural thinking about what’s okay & what’s not (civil & criminal) is based…& I’ve had the same basic issues & concerns w/ every administration I’ve lived under. 14 presidents, starting w/ Truman. I was as informed as I could be at the time, each time, & I’ve invested the time & attention to stay as informed as I could/can

Joe is far from the worst president of my lifetime: every “republican” president since Eisenhower is collected @ the bottom of the bag. They were all hired in support of an agenda that seeks to take the country away from the voters by fooling enough of them to support their own demise, and only their ‘personal styles’ distinguish them from the never-presidential con-artist-in-chief we’re still trying to scrape off the national footwear.

OTOH, I put Biden & Obama w/ Kennedy as the most emblematic of the USA at its best, & most successful at embodying the sacred kingship inherent in his position: imperfect, rueful sometime, but good-hearted, well-meaning, willing to own up to their own mistakes, and doing their best to cope with the rapidly-changing situations across a vast nation

That we have had THREE such men in the office in 75 years is as close to a miracle as I’ll ever see: if that’s not the equivalent of god blessing American, then I guess god is just not IN the America-blessing business
Mitch and crowd wanted to slowly strangle American democracy in its sleep, but Trump punched Uncle Sam square in the face and woke him up, he got woke real quick! Donald fucked up their plan and stole the party out from under them with a better grift, such were the plans of mice and Mitch.
 

Bagginski

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Sometimes we talk about civics - which is the study of our founding documents, how they came to be, how the constitution was arrived at, and how the government created by the constitution actually is supposed to work. We covered this in grades 3-5/6 when I was a kid…and NONE OF IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.

It took a while to realize that the people IN the government, especially locally, didn’t like it when they had to extend it (the reach and knowledge & significance of what the founders called “our civic religion”) to black people, who *are still* unconsciously seen as escaped slaves & therefore ‘inherently’ criminal by entirely too many melanin-deficient citizens & outside agitators. They stopped teaching civics in Georgia once the shadow of desegregation fell: better to not let the slaves know how it works or they’ll try to work it

The point, though, is that civics NEVER went far enough. Yes, to all I mentioned above; but civics rightly should include The Federalist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers. It should include English Common Law, which governs American civil & criminal law in the same fashion as the Napoleonic Code governs the civil & criminal structures & realities of France. Fake-federalist, “originalist/textualist” schemes (hi, SCOTUS) evaporate when you examine the common law standards we brought with us from Britain & codified HERE (good night, sovereign-citizen boys) for OUR use. (SPOILER: the Dobbs decision was wrongly decided in every way & Alito is so full of shit he should seek honest employment as a feces dispenser…double for Scalia…& franchised by Thomas)

Jefferson wasn’t kidding when he said an informed and educated citizen is THE ONLY BULWARK against tyranny: it’s why TFFG and his wrecking crew go for the lowest common denominator. Had schools actually taught & required the CONTEXT for US law & government, we’d spend less life & treasure fending off wealthy parasites & maniacal carney barkers. We *and* the world would already be a better place than it is
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Sometimes we talk about civics - which is the study of our founding documents, how they came to be, how the constitution was arrived at, and how the government created by the constitution actually is supposed to work. We covered this in grades 3-5/6 when I was a kid…and NONE OF IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.

It took a while to realize that the people IN the government, especially locally, didn’t like it when they had to extend it (the reach and knowledge & significance of what the founders called “our civic religion”) to black people, who *are still* unconsciously seen as escaped slaves & therefore ‘inherently’ criminal by entirely too many melanin-deficient citizens & outside agitators. They stopped teaching civics in Georgia once the shadow of desegregation fell: better to not let the slaves know how it works or they’ll try to work it

The point, though, is that civics NEVER went far enough. Yes, to all I mentioned above; but civics rightly should include The Federalist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers. It should include English Common Law, which governs American civil & criminal law in the same fashion as the Napoleonic Code governs the civil & criminal structures & realities of France. Fake-federalist, “originalist/textualist” schemes (hi, SCOTUS) evaporate when you examine the common law standards we brought with us from Britain & codified HERE (good night, sovereign-citizen boys) for OUR use. (SPOILER: the Dobbs decision was wrongly decided in every way & Alito is so full of shit he should seek honest employment as a feces dispenser…double for Scalia…& franchised by Thomas)

Jefferson wasn’t kidding when he said an informed and educated citizen is THE ONLY BULWARK against tyranny: it’s why TFFG and his wrecking crew go for the lowest common denominator. Had schools actually taught & required the CONTEXT for US law & government, we’d spend less life & treasure fending off wealthy parasites & maniacal carney barkers. We *and* the world would already be a better place than it is
You can boil it down to the value of democracy, having a vote and having it count, and of a press and its importance in a represented democracy. The value of truth and the massive harm lies can cause with some social and other media education. Teach them that racism and bigotry turn them into suckers and allows any grifter with a "hook" to use their asses at will, even a moron like Trump can do it. Tell them to just look at some of their older relatives to see what a fool looks like.

I'm sure the republicans would love it!
 

Bagginski

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some real tough competition from Jewish space laser dingbat and Boebs. And “Early” Gaetz.
They are making it a real competition, but their sheer stupidity may be no match for his utter inability to read a room or maintain any sense of self-awareness. The other hold the same weaknesses, but he doesn’t have any idea how bizarrely wack he is, and I think they might have some idea of wrong they keep getting it (Boobert never believed it was Jewish lasers, she’s just an uglier Alina Habba (who’s just proved yet again that “pretty” is the most useless & shallow of assets))
 
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Bagginski

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I’m hard-pressed to speak ill of Carter either. And Clinton (his ambiguity about the meaning of “is” notwithstanding) gave us that wonderful thing: a year or two of budget surplus.

Johnson (and his appointing MacNamara!) was the weakest of the bunch imo. As a Texas Democrat, he was more Texas than the other thing.
We weren’t ready for a man like Carter as prez; I’m honestly not sure HE was ready for the job of Sacred King & national CEO, and I say that w/ admiration & respect for him & his political career.

I have a real hard time liking Clinton, even though I realize he had some real successes & wasn’t maybe a *total* asshole. Absolutely THE MOST REPUBLICAN democrat in the WH w/ all the shortcomings that implies. Getting rid of his ‘third way’ pseudo-centrism is still under way

Johnson, like Ford, was in over his head. He knew the job he had before he got the job that became the hot seat; they both did their variable best & ultimately didn’t succeed. The Peter principle keeps showing up in electoral politics - like Reagan , like TFFG, like THE REST OF THE GOP
 

Bagginski

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You can boil it down to the value of democracy, having a vote and having it count, and of a press and its importance in a represented democracy. The value of truth and the massive harm lies can cause with some social and other media education. Teach them that racism and bigotry turn them into suckers and allows any grifter with a "hook" to use their asses at will, even a moron like Trump can do it. Tell them to just look at some of their older relatives to see what a fool looks like.

I'm sure the republicans would love it!
When the fool goes all-in on a bad hand, he can’t be told it was the wrong move, he can only be ruined & deal with it…you’d think the universally failed ‘conservative dating’ app/site/hole phenomenon would’ve been decoded by the smart sheep at least…such a massive wall of CLUE & they can’t see it
 

Bagginski

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Mitch and crowd wanted to slowly strangle American democracy in its sleep, but Trump punched Uncle Sam square in the face and woke him up, he got woke real quick! Donald fucked up their plan and stole the party out from under them with a better grift, such were the plans of mice and Mitch.
The USA was BORN WOKE compared to most of the European world.

Even when they kicked the slavery can down the road, they KNEW they were kicking it away: they KNEW what it was, what was wrong with it, and that they didn’t know how to deal with it. They kicked it to *US*. May not be possible to kick it again, shit needs FIXING, not campaigning
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The USA was BORN WOKE compared to most of the European world.

Even when they kicked the slavery can down the road, they KNEW a they were kicking it away: they KNEW what it was, what was wrong with it, and that they didn’t know how to deal with it. They kicked it to *US*. May not be possible to kick it again, shit needs FIXING, not campaigning
At this point job 1 is “defend the republic. Survive.”

The maga candidates are the obvious threat. But the greater one is imo (to borrow a metaphor from Dune) “the slow blade”. The never-to-be-sufficiently-damned Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation have planted their venomous operatives in the highest courts of the land. They can do an awful lot to destroy the machinery of governance. The likely death of Chevron deference is the tip of the iceberg of killing the Federal government, now that the totalibertarians hold a majority on the bench of last resort.

Fascist idiots in the legislature we can survive and begin to muck out.

But stone-cold fascitarians in Scotus jumping when their billionaire masters say “frog” can swing their mauls at our kindest institutions from a place of effective impunity.

In any healthy republic, Justice Thomas and her husband would be out of office and under indictment. But, sigh. Behold absolute power corrupting absolutely.

Damn them. Damn them to a very cold place.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Meanwhile Donald is franticly trying to crash the economy, stop immigration legislation and block Ukrainian funding and has control over the GOP house, more or less. All in an effort to make Biden look bad and on the economy the press seems to be determined to help him, or many white Americans aren't really voting on policy, the economy or other things that make common sense, they are voting for another reason. Surveys have found 2/3 of people are happy with their personal economy and for them things are looking up, yet...

Lack of coherent industrial policy in light of obvious technological trends mostly caused by republicans over decades and Trump was a disaster for any kind of plan, including his own. America is facing a sputnik moment with China a real one, not an imagined one and they won't meet it by fucking with schools and burning books. There is competition out there and they have a stranglehold on batteries, solar panels and EVs, they wanted free trade, now well they've got it, in their faces. America no longer has the luxury of Trump and racism impeding progress, the world is moving on while America stares at its own asshole, Trump.

This is because of Biden in spite of what he is dealing with, he is trying to meet the challenge at least.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
… while America stares at its own asshole, Trump.

A solid metaphor. Taking it one step further, next to the asshole is the supporting cast of serious problem people like Justices Kavanaugh, Alito, Gorsuch and Thomas (and her husband) whom the billionaires: Crow, Leo, others unexposed — have given us Scrotus and the (!) taint of the big dark money in whose gravity well GOP is spiraling and threatening to take the whole country down the Constitutional event horizon.
 
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