Fact Check: Seeds from a self-pollinating hermie are always females?

MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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CannaBruh said:
Not sure on the what kind of time window the pollen will remain viable. Have heard from a few weeks, to months to a few years assuming moisture is kept at bay and conditions are optimal.

I have vials of cindy pollen, nearly a decade old, cold stored. It has the appearance just as it did when it was vialed. Light yellow dust.

Next batch of girls to go in I'll dust some lower branches and come back and share if any of it takes.

Back to the intersex discussion. Some of the best herb I've ran and cuts I've kept had thrown the bananas. It's kind of a compromise running those strains. ECSD was another one that had tendencies to freak out, but the flowers were worth it.
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I agree about the ECSD it's in all my favorites.

But still the less stress the less "nanners" for me. They really don't bother me anymore. They have never caused but a couple of seeds to grow.
 
Humanrob

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I've never had seeds appear in an outdoor (that I did not intentionally pollinate), only in indoor grows -- and both times a Mars red/blue LED were involved (although that could be a total coincidence). One was the hermie that started this thread, and that poor plant was born at the wrong time. I was experimenting with multiple different lights, and I switched lights on it several times throughout the grow, finishing under The Mighty Mars Reflector. Another I never saw male flowers on, I just got feedback from my patient that she found a couple of seeds and wanted to know if I wanted to keep them.

In my current grow, one of the clones I picked up at a dispensary went 100% boy on me. It was smaller and in the back, and it was so unexpected that I didn't catch it until after some had popped. There was a clone on either side of it, but they were at the very earliest stage of starting to flower, so I doubt they pollinated. I wish I had someplace to grow that boy, it was a Sweet Island Skunk, could have been fun to selectively pollinate with but I had to compost it. If I do end out with random seeds in this grow I'm totally OK with that, I'll grow them.
 
qwizoking

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Not gonna read but thread title is very ignorant.

X and y is the sex determination in humans.try reading about the rest of the world.
Where there can be many of these chromosomes. Where sex can be determined by temp. Or where it's completely facultative
Etc
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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qwizoking said:
Not gonna read but thread title is very ignorant.

X and y is the sex determination in humans.try reading about the rest of the world.
Where there can be many of these chromosomes. Where sex can be determined by temp. Or where it's completely facultative
Etc
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Actually this is a good thread to learn about stamen "nanners". Commenting without reading is more ignorant than the thread title in my opinion.
 
qwizoking

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This thread might have devolved into the 10 point polar surface area difference between thc and cbd.

Could care less.


I'm referring to the title/the op' s question. Seeing as you aren't even the op.
Go take your offense elsewhere.


His statement made the assumption that humans and plants have similar reproductive systems.

This why I get 90% fem on reg seed
 
Humanrob

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qwizoking said:
Ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of. That's why you started the thread..to learn
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I took biology 35 years ago... there is much I don't know, and much I have forgotten. And now there are things I "learn" on the Internet... which is dubious at best.

The short definition of ignorant is:
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

It is generally (or commonly) used as an insult.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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qwizoking said:
This thread might have devolved into the 10 point polar surface area difference between thc and cbd.

Could care less.


I'm referring to the title/the op' s question. Seeing as you aren't even the op.
Go take your offense elsewhere.


His statement made the assumption that humans and plants have similar reproductive systems.

This why I get 90% fem on reg seed
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I was offended because we are having an excellent discussion that can help many mis informed growers and you comment negatively without reading.

The thread title is why I came here to help.
 
Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Just to clarify some mis-information. @chemphlegm The yellow fingers or bananas are called stamen. They do not open they are what is already inside a fully developed male flower. If they had pollen it was exposed. They are usually very weak in well bred genetics.

When reversing with chemicals like the breeders there is a much more dramatic effect and it is done the first two weeks of flower.
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The effect is that the plant where sprayed will actually "reverse" it's self and throw real deal male flowers! "BALLS".....

The old stress method was done with a stress plant - ment to throw stamen and another plant alongside - not stressed - to be (hopefully) pollinated by the other ...... Goes to show that the pollen made by the stressed plant can easily carry on the "Hermy" trait.

Personally, I don't care how good the genetics might be. I won't use seed resulting from any "Banana Republic"..
 
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Dr. Who

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CannaBruh said:
Those bananas DO have pollen inside them.. at least from what I've found.

I have Chem D bananas saved from a decade ago.

I've had males that refused to bust the bananas until forced and then dust clouds.
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CannaBruh said:
Not sure on the what kind of time window the pollen will remain viable. Have heard from a few weeks, to months to a few years assuming moisture is kept at bay and conditions are optimal.

I have vials of cindy pollen, nearly a decade old, cold stored. It has the appearance just as it did when it was vialed. Light yellow dust.

Next batch of girls to go in I'll dust some lower branches and come back and share if any of it takes.

Back to the intersex discussion. Some of the best herb I've ran and cuts I've kept had thrown the bananas. It's kind of a compromise running those strains. ECSD was another one that had tendencies to freak out, but the flowers were worth it.
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Full viability is just over a year - frozen. From there it starts to decline till it won't work.
 
Dr. Who

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I agree about the ECSD it's in all my favorites.

But still the less stress the less "nanners" for me. They really don't bother me anymore. They have never caused but a couple of seeds to grow.
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Mmm, must be your source genetic's. I have never had even a naner from either of my chem dogs or my ECSD. The dog is old original gentics, and the ECSD is the from the best cut (in my opinion). Now my Thai's and the Vietnamese Black, will if stressed as you say. I keep the environment set for them and have feed charting for them for years and years.....So I don't see naners or better "haven't" for sometime....

I stress when plants stress. Yet there are times when I "push" blooming plants rather hard. Yes, even with my organics. That set of GG#4 pics I posted. Those were "pushed" with a high N soil (slower release components and more of them) and with some extra medium release P and K. They got hit with some extra Mg Sulfate to.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Humanrob said:
I've never had seeds appear in an outdoor (that I did not intentionally pollinate), only in indoor grows -- and both times a Mars red/blue LED were involved (although that could be a total coincidence). One was the hermie that started this thread, and that poor plant was born at the wrong time. I was experimenting with multiple different lights, and I switched lights on it several times throughout the grow, finishing under The Mighty Mars Reflector. Another I never saw male flowers on, I just got feedback from my patient that she found a couple of seeds and wanted to know if I wanted to keep them.

In my current grow, one of the clones I picked up at a dispensary went 100% boy on me. It was smaller and in the back, and it was so unexpected that I didn't catch it until after some had popped. There was a clone on either side of it, but they were at the very earliest stage of starting to flower, so I doubt they pollinated. I wish I had someplace to grow that boy, it was a Sweet Island Skunk, could have been fun to selectively pollinate with but I had to compost it. If I do end out with random seeds in this grow I'm totally OK with that, I'll grow them.
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Kinda "odd" it was smaller.......Mainly they're bigger and less branchy.
 
Dr. Who

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JDMase said:
If that's the case then a hermi's seeds are worth saving and using.

I am a believer of the "cannabis is genetically coded to be a hermaphrodite" theory. It's a way to ensure offspring should no male pollen be present.
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You can run them all you want. I wouldn't breed with them - as a rule.

Many plant families have the ability to "herm" to carry on the line. Cannabis is one. I still would not use a seed from real herms or stressed seed S1......My choice to not weaken the gene pool in that manor. Chem reversed seeds are not damaged genetics, in the sense of easier herming...That's simply a false belief......
 
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