Faith v. Reality (what takes priority?)

Faith or Reality, what takes priority in your life?

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eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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...Pad, I'm sure you've read this quote? I think it speaks volumes in your thread.

"science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -Einstein
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.

-Einstein
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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^ Einstein had a deep respect for Judaism and Christianity. Pretty cool. I know that he wasn't fond of religious institutions, but that just makes sense coming from him.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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eye exaggerate said:
...Pad, I'm sure you've read this quote? I think it speaks volumes in your thread.

"science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -Einstein
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To tell you the truth, I'm not sure I understand the quote completely.

"science without religion is lame" - from what I'm getting, it seems to mean scientific application without ingenuity is somewhat moot, as science can't create ideas, only test them.

"religion without science is blind" - I already agree with

As far as I understand it, I agree with it
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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cannabineer said:
That's still ambiguous to me ... evocative but not descriptive. cn
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Perhaps...

Proper investigation, testing and conclusion without gaining confidence is ineffective, gaining confidence without proper investigation, testing and conclusion is lacking in direction and rational discrimination.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Heisenberg said:
Perhaps...

Proper investigation, testing and conclusion without gaining confidence is ineffective, gaining confidence without proper investigation, testing and conclusion is lacking in direction and rational discrimination.
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Imo the journey from religion to faith to gaining confidence covered a lot of terrain. The starting point is below a few horizons. Thus my invocation of evocation. cn
 
greenswag

greenswag

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I voted faith. I said faith because my faith, really is just an amazing tool to dissect and enjoy reality for what it really is, and because of my faith I now see reality in a more clear state. So even though I am really focusing on reality, it is because of my faith that I do this, and without having found my faith, I would still be in an oblivious shell.
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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...I wonder if those who vote(d) reality could clue the rest of the world in on what it is? :razz:

...at any rate, I 'feel' that reality has a little to do with the 2 horizons.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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eye exaggerate said:
...I wonder if those who vote(d) reality could clue the rest of the world in on what it is? :razz:

...at any rate, I 'feel' that reality has a little to do with the 2 horizons.
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I found the dichotomy a bit arrogant as well. As a committed subjectivist, I have real faith that there isn't one without the other. cn
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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cannabineer said:
I found the dichotomy a bit arrogant as well. As a committed subjectivist, I have real faith that there isn't one without the other. cn
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...you're leaving positive footprints here, man :) It's interesting when you think about the personality (man's current view of reality) and how it doesn't last. Every single second that passes by makes for a new image of reality. However, the personality that experiences it is temporal, it is what dies. The essence will always be there, imo.
 
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