Frosty the Nug Man
Member
just me being a noob and overwatering. Thats why i went to dwc i cant over water them if they're always in water.
FFOF ( Fox Farms Ocean Forest ) made Simple - Autoflower
CarolinaPothead
Well-Known Member
I feel ya there. I think overwatering is almost a given for newbs. I sure as hell did. Now I use the lifting the container method. Hang in there on your other question. There are people here that can help you with most plant issues. I'm not qualified yet but there are some master growers here and a few don't mind helping you out. God knows they helped me.
yesterdaysnews
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Current grow is 25 days from helmet heads. I used a 50/50 mix of Ocean Forrest and #8. I've used both before but never mixed together,,, 
I use a little cal-mag, a silicate and molasses in all my water starting at 2 weeks. And Bloom City top dressing dry ferts. @ there jigger measure a week starting at 3 weeks from sprout. This grow I did put a jigger of the dry ferts in the water at 2 weeks and let it steep a few hours before watering that day. It's all good.
I use a little cal-mag, a silicate and molasses in all my water starting at 2 weeks. And Bloom City top dressing dry ferts. @ there jigger measure a week starting at 3 weeks from sprout. This grow I did put a jigger of the dry ferts in the water at 2 weeks and let it steep a few hours before watering that day. It's all good.
Budzbuddha
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Tell us more about grow -
Nutes
Temps
Rh
Water / ph
Strain
Lighting / cycle
I do notice the purp stems tho.
AndWhatNot
Member
Seed to flower, 30 days in, full FFOF and ph'd tap. Got some light tips, but we have wicked high chemicals in our town water. Also running led's in a closet. 
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Pimpjuice9906
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Nutes - just water when I wrote. Recently have dose of calmag and 1/2 does of DrEarth
Temps - 78 to 81F
Rh - 70 to 80%
Water / ph - 6.3 to 6.5
Strain Atlas
Lighting / cycle acinfinity 4x2 light at 80%
I do notice the purp stems tho.
So I’m almost ready to start a run and was gonna use this process. My only confusion is with the yeast. I bought the only “brewers yeast” I could find and it says “inactive” on the can. Is that the right stuff?? Am I activating it by mixing with water?
Just not sure what you mean’t concerning the yeast.
Are you still a fan of using yeast and is there any other uses for it along the way??
What if you simply mixed a small amount into the entire pot??
many thanks for a great resource here.
AndWhatNot
Member
I just simply wanted a successful grow. Seed to harvest (almost) with ONLY FFOF and PH'd tap. Top every 3-4 waterings. This is 8 weeks into flower. Not an auto. And LED's in a closet. Thanks Budz.
After 1 success, I'll graduate to 2. Must be good, smells like cat piss.
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Downhomedude
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Mine is starting to show alot of yellowing only 6 weeks into flower. Flowers seem to be doing well but them leaves tho... what are you topping with?I just simply wanted a successful grow. Seed to harvest (almost) with ONLY FFOF and PH'd tap. Top every 3-4 waterings. This is 8 weeks into flower. Not an auto. And LED's in a closet. Thanks Budz.
After 1 success, I'll graduate to 2. Must be good, smells like cat piss.
Loo
I have 3 seedlings that are close to being transplanted into a layered mix w/ OF, worm castings, and perlite on the bottom and happy frog/perlite/worm castings on the top.
I’m hoping to go 4-5 weeks w/ only ph’ed water, then a couple top dressings from that point.
Oh I forgot, I do plan on giving some silica along the way.
i have a lot of confidence that this will be plenty of “grower involvement” and I can keep my hands OFF my girls. My constant hovering and micromanaging cost me on the last grow.
I have my “lights on” variables dialed in as good as I can imagine. The lights out is still a challenge, which is why they are still on 24-0.
I guess worst case I could always opt for 24-0 the entire grow as they are autos.
Kudos again to @Budzbuddha who chose to teach folks to fish instead of cooking fish for them. Thank U many X’s over.
looks like a winner to me…..I assume you’re top dressing with more ocean forest and maybe a little worm castings?I just simply wanted a successful grow. Seed to harvest (almost) with ONLY FFOF and PH'd tap. Top every 3-4 waterings. This is 8 weeks into flower. Not an auto. And LED's in a closet. Thanks Budz.
After 1 success, I'll graduate to 2. Must be good, smells like cat piss.
I have 3 seedlings that are close to being transplanted into a layered mix w/ OF, worm castings, and perlite on the bottom and happy frog/perlite/worm castings on the top.
I’m hoping to go 4-5 weeks w/ only ph’ed water, then a couple top dressings from that point.
Oh I forgot, I do plan on giving some silica along the way.
i have a lot of confidence that this will be plenty of “grower involvement” and I can keep my hands OFF my girls. My constant hovering and micromanaging cost me on the last grow.
I have my “lights on” variables dialed in as good as I can imagine. The lights out is still a challenge, which is why they are still on 24-0.
I guess worst case I could always opt for 24-0 the entire grow as they are autos.
Kudos again to @Budzbuddha who chose to teach folks to fish instead of cooking fish for them. Thank U many X’s over.
CarolinaPothead
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I don't know about yours, but when I tried 24/0 with my autos it fkd them up. It was too much light and they wilted. It may work for some but plants need some rest usually. Even just a couple hours. Also I was using straight ffof and water and the plants did wonderful until they started flowering and then everything went wrong. The soil depleted fast and there was NO frost at all until I changed to 18/6 and 2 days later were trichs everywhere. I know some people that have their environment dialed in get away running 24/0 but most auto experts( I'm not one) recommend at least 20/4 . Good luck with your girls
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I hear ya….thanks for chiming in. I’m very skeptical of trying 24/0. I’m really trying to keep my space dialed in according to the VPD chart and bought an Inkbird to handle it. The thing works great for the lights on cycle…I’m running 81-83F with 63-65rh. But to get this I’m having to use a space heater and 2 humidifiers.
The weather is so unstable this time of year my readings would go drastically one way or the other if I had the Inkbird go off for 4-6hrs of darkness.
So my options would be to basically have the same temp/RH for the dark period…..which may not be a problem. I’m honestly not sure what the temp and RH would drop to if I did cut the heater and humidifier off……maybe if I did it during the middle of the day it wouldn’t be such a big drop??
Right now my seedlings are 8-9 days old and 24hrs works fine…..but I know I need to figure this out.
You said your problems started once they started flowering? Did they do fine vegging under 24/0? Maybe I can go 24/0 for the first month or so and once they show signs of flowering cut them back to 20/4 or 18/6….???
I appreciate any advice…..cheers
AndWhatNot
Member
I'm topping with FFOF only.
AndWhatNot
Member
I just went straight FFOF. I couldn't agree more with the fish statement.
CarolinaPothead
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I indeed ran them under 24/0 just like I veg my photos. They vegged great. I did alot of lst and the extra light made them grow fast. But when they started flowering was when the ffof was done. I had my nutes backordered and by the time the cal-mag and other stuff arrived I was behind. Then my crazy water pH jumping around made it hard to get the nutrients into the plants. But the buds got quite large and I still had zero trichs. I read where someone else has the problem and switched to 18/6. My problem has been getting my environment dialed in to the strain. I keep on changing strains lol. Hope my screwups help somebody else not have to make them.
Tannercortes
Member
Hi and happy 420-1,
First time newbie who was lucky to find this org and thread. Thank you @Budzbuddha for breaking it down.
I started with 3 Auto seeds. Green Crack did not germinate fully and died rip. GSC and Bruce Banner chose life.
i think the leaves are slightly curled at the edges but don’t want to over react. Also look slightly folded not flat.
Any advice from the experienced folks would be greatly appreciated.
Grow Stats
Day 15
FFOF
Sungrow 4
Perlite
Tap water 6.3-6.5 as needed
Current Light Program
Bright Cali Sunlight during day 12 hours
6 hours under 60W fluorescent lights
6 hours resting in dark
Want to move both into Led tent to finish their lives but don’t know if I should address any issues first.
Thanks
First time newbie who was lucky to find this org and thread. Thank you @Budzbuddha for breaking it down.
I started with 3 Auto seeds. Green Crack did not germinate fully and died rip. GSC and Bruce Banner chose life.
i think the leaves are slightly curled at the edges but don’t want to over react. Also look slightly folded not flat.
Any advice from the experienced folks would be greatly appreciated.
Grow Stats
Day 15
FFOF
Sungrow 4
Perlite
Tap water 6.3-6.5 as needed
Current Light Program
Bright Cali Sunlight during day 12 hours
6 hours under 60W fluorescent lights
6 hours resting in dark
Want to move both into Led tent to finish their lives but don’t know if I should address any issues first.
Thanks
CarolinaPothead
Well-Known Member
Looks good to me. What kind of led light in your tent?btw. Make sure you have cal-mag,epsom salts etc. before those autos hit the stretch or you may lose some yield. Can't get behind on autos. Buddzbuddha posted a good technique, so if you stick to it you should be fine.
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Tannercortes
Member
Thank you for your feedback. i appreciate it as I’m probably reacting to every little perception. So far have not done any additional nutrients, will read up on those and make a plan.
electric sky 300 v3
CarolinaPothead
Well-Known Member
You won't need nutrients for the first 30 days in ffof from my experience but better have em ready by week 3 in case. Dude that's a $550 light. I feel like I should be the one asking advice.. Seriously, having enough light won't be a problem. Damn .
Billy the Mountain
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Keep an eagle-eye out for bugs if you're planning on moving them from outdoors to indoors. It's all too easy to bring a few back in the tent where they have free reign on your plants.