axionjaxson
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thanks for your reply man , i'm going to try to get some einstein oil then cause i saw it at home depot for pretty cheap.
Finally...I'm gonna do it right..well..As right as space permits.
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thanks for your reply man , i'm going to try to get some einstein oil then cause i saw it at home depot for pretty cheap.
FootClan
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if you spend more then 80 bucks in material to build your box then you better off just buying a cheap grow tent off ebay be the same price and alot better and easyer....... also "azamax" is the active ingredient in NEEM OIL.....thats why i said to get azamax..... the reason mites dont like neem oil is because there is "Azadirachtin" in neem oil and that is why people use neem oil for mites.....Now you can use the greesy neem oil and get a wetting again to mix in or you can get azamax which is conentrated "azadirachtin" and you will cut out all the stuff in neem oil that you dont need and the greasy ness and the wetting agants you should be using in junction with the neem oil...... I never use neem oil cause its a pain and theres better stuff......
axionjaxson
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thank you for your reply , i wasnt aware i would need a wetting agent , would the small bottle of azamax do it or will i need more , i think i saw a 4oz bottle. I will be going to get it on thursday so soap till then , thanks again for the reply cause i woulda got neem and been ignorant that i even needed a wetting agent.
axionjaxson
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oh yah this is another dumb question but has ne 1 used like some 3 year old botanicaire pro grow? i have barely used it on these plants cause im afraid it may not be good .
axionjaxson
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okay so i have four 250 watt mh ballasts that i got off craigslist for 60 bucks , right now i only have two of them hooked up , my plants are growing pretty good now ,but i wonder how much faster they would grow if i added another light. i think i am gonna get the mh to hps conversion bulbs for flowering and hook up all four lights when that time comes. also when that time comes i know i am gonna have to do something about these reflectors with most of the back cut out , i know im losing a lot of light from improper reflection.
axionjaxson
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ps i didnt cut out the backs of the reflectors .
axionjaxson
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i will get some pictures on here today of them (hoods and ballasts ) but no the ballast is not on the hoods.
axionjaxson
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here is pictures of the reflectors and some new pictures of my chitty grow.
yah , ive been bending.
yah , ive been bending.
axionjaxson
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ps the seedling is in a mix of 80 peet 20 miracle grow soil cause thats all i had .
FootClan
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is that a tin foil reflector? lol the cheatest reflector is a "bat wing" reflector id get two of those there 20 bucks each with out the sockets....... Your plants color looks ok but they appear very spizzly and stunted..... and i can see the spider mite damage on some of the pics on the lower leaves..... you cut holes in the bottom of your buckets right??
axionjaxson
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yah i drilled quite a few and a few small ones along the bottom on the sides .what is spizzly ? yes stunted a bit they are. They were in 1 gal pots for a week or two longer than they shoulda been and i took top cuttings from them all like less than twenty four hours before i transplanted them into the five gallon home depot buckets and add in the miracle grow soil shock itself and im im sure theyre a bit stunted , but look much better than they did on the third.
FootClan
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well to give you an idea what spizzly is...... Heres the oppisite of spizzly these are six of my plants in 5 gallon pots........ the first pic is at 2 weeks of veg and the second pic is at 3 weeks of vegging....
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axionjaxson
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oh its just a word you made up okay , i get it haha
FootClan
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lol i didnt make it up .......i wasnt the first person in the usa to say "spizzly" my mom been saying it for decades and mayber her mother too who knows....haha
axionjaxson
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lol awesome lol
axionjaxson
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i just got back from my local nursery and i was there looking for azamax , they didnt have it so after an hour of reading labels i happened to notice two little boxs in the corner on the very back of the shelf , covered in dust with their coloring faded, i go to this place atleast once sometimes twice a weak to take my daughter to look at all the flowers and stuff they have , and i pretty much always stop and look at their nutrients and stuff , but i had never noticed this before and it just so happens that i am having a war with spider mites right now so when i read what it was i had to buy it , its called "Black Leaf 40 Garden spray. Also it says on the box "The original nicotine sulphate solution. says spray flowers, shrubs , vegetables and trees. apparently it is also used "on the farm for poultry to control chicken lice and feather mites.has anyone used black leaf?
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| Black leaf 40 garden spray | Value gardens supply, llc | Parent Product | Feb 25, 1958 | Nov 30, 1992 |
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axionjaxson
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now im afraid to use it
axionjaxson
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as a matter of fact i wont be using it at all i went back and bought the other bottle cause i found online where this chit is collectable , so i'm doin some investigating , they are unopened with the original instructions and warnings sheet inside the box , i havnt taken them out or even touched the bottle and i dont intend to til i get some gloves.im gonna get an insect fogger tomorrow , whats a good one, for the spider mites that keep hatching CHIT!!!!!
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