First clone! Will she root?

Weouthere

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Hi guys!! Super stoked to be here
I have a small plant that was given to me by my buddy 5 days ago.
He was given 2 plants and let me take a cutting off of some Farmers Fire to try and clone. We didn’t have a lot of materials cause it was spur of the moment, but I think we did it well enough.
Cut at 45 degree with my razor, straight into water. Cut/scraped side underwater, rolled in rooting powder and into a pot with some good dirt (don’t remember what it is but it was given to him by a long time grower).
I put it on my window sill in the kitchen because we’ve had tomato plants start well there. No dome, heating pad, or powered light. Just some sunlight and light from the living room at night.
I’m hoping it’s going to work alright, am I doing okay? I’m worried it won’t root
I might be getting a grow box soon so I might go indoors as I think it’s getting kinda late to go outdoors.
 

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.Smoke

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Hi guys!! Super stoked to be here
I have a small plant that was given to me by my buddy 5 days ago.
He was given 2 plants and let me take a cutting off of some Farmers Fire to try and clone. We didn’t have a lot of materials cause it was spur of the moment, but I think we did it well enough.
Cut at 45 degree with my razor, straight into water. Cut/scraped side underwater, rolled in rooting powder and into a pot with some good dirt (don’t remember what it is but it was given to him by a long time grower).
I put it on my window sill in the kitchen because we’ve had tomato plants start well there. No dome, heating pad, or powered light. Just some sunlight and light from the living room at night.
I’m hoping it’s going to work alright, am I doing okay? I’m worried it won’t root
I might be getting a grow box soon so I might go indoors as I think it’s getting kinda late to go outdoors.
Looks good.
I would remove the fan leaf that is wilting/discolored.
The clone doesn't need that much leaf surface due to having no roots so the plant is trying to kill it off to conserve energy.
Help it out or watch it wilt the next few days and hope the leaf doesn't take the rest with it.
Best of luck!
 

TrippleDip

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Hi guys!! Super stoked to be here
I have a small plant that was given to me by my buddy 5 days ago.
He was given 2 plants and let me take a cutting off of some Farmers Fire to try and clone. We didn’t have a lot of materials cause it was spur of the moment, but I think we did it well enough.
Cut at 45 degree with my razor, straight into water. Cut/scraped side underwater, rolled in rooting powder and into a pot with some good dirt (don’t remember what it is but it was given to him by a long time grower).
I put it on my window sill in the kitchen because we’ve had tomato plants start well there. No dome, heating pad, or powered light. Just some sunlight and light from the living room at night.
I’m hoping it’s going to work alright, am I doing okay? I’m worried it won’t root
I might be getting a grow box soon so I might go indoors as I think it’s getting kinda late to go outdoors.
That leaf is discoloured because the plant is using the nutrients stored in it, I'd let the plant lose it on its own unless it's touching the dirt or something.

Here's hoping it works out and roots for you. It might take a while, like 3 wks even before it starts looking better.. They always look worse before they look better. I wouldn't sweat it even if all the fan leaves are half yellow.
 

.Smoke

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That leaf is discoloured because the plant is using the nutrients stored in it, I'd let the plant lose it on its own unless it's touching the dirt or something.

Here's hoping it works out and roots for you. It might take a while, like 3 wks even before it starts looking better.. They always look worse before they look better. I wouldn't sweat it even if all the fan leaves are half yellow.
It is using the stored nutrients, but just like a busted up leg you may still be able to walk on it, but eventually the blood poisoning will kill you. The plant is killing it off because it's a dead weight for it atm. Not because it needs newts..

I would at least trim off 1/2 the leaf...

First pic 24hrs after cut. See how they are drooping/wilting?

The next morning they were 2x as bad.

Trimmed off "excess" leaves and such that night.

Second pic was 24hrs after trim.
Quite a noticable difference if you ask me...

These were cut, powder hormone dipped and straight into soil 4 nights ago...
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Hempire828

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A cheap nice bubble cup cloner would’ve got roots faster possibly.... then to soil...it may survive.. look like it’s still go some green... make the environment more humid or tropical... give a spray sometimes...if I don’t use the bubble cloner.. I use straight perlite... roots take off..A89FBACC-62D5-44ED-AA49-0D19C15C5EAE.jpeg
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TrippleDip

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It is using the stored nutrients, but just like a busted up leg you may still be able to walk on it, but eventually the blood poisoning will kill you. The plant is killing it off because it's a dead weight for it atm. Not because it needs newts..

I would at least trim off 1/2 the leaf...

First pic 24hrs after cut. See how they are drooping/wilting?

The next morning they were 2x as bad.

Trimmed off "excess" leaves and such that night.

Second pic was 24hrs after trim.
Quite a noticable difference if you ask me...

These were cut, powder hormone dipped and straight into soil 4 nights ago...
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Thanks for the perspective, I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything. I'm 3 for 3 cloning so far.. here's my fourth (cloneB).. Not sure if this one will survive.. I didn't foliar feed this one.

My technique right now is to clip them, roll them in iba and stick them in a cup of water for a week or less. They go straight from the water to soilless mix, again with iba. Once they are in soil I foliar feed until the leaves start yellowing, it is the yellowing that first lets me know they are growing. The two other pics are more representative of what they usually look like, one week apart, growing nicely despite the yellow leaves.

The part I don't get is if the plant doesn't want the leaves why doesn't it just drop them green like with phosphorus defficiency or lack of circulation. I attached a third pic to demonstrate. No leaves were removed from the plant, but it still dropped all the leaves at the bottom due to lack of light or air circulation, not n or other nutrient defficiency. All the dropped leaves were otherwise completely healthy and green, the stem just became detached.

edit: I've noticed callus formation when placing cuttings in water seems to proceed a lot faster if there are dilute nutrients (regular feed diluted 1:10 or 1:20) instead of just tap water as well.
 

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Weouthere

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Hey thanks guys I really appreciate it!! I clipped the yellowest, biggest leaves this morning.
I was thinking about putting it in an ice chest with a rack and some water underneath, covered with plastic and a light on it for a more humid environment.
Is it too late or would it stress it too much to do that?
I feel really dumb for just puttting it on the window like that, really stressing it won’t root.
Here’s pics from tonight
 

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