First Closet CFL Grow

kochab

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I would like to be able to seperate rooms, but I'm not to sure of a decent way of doing that in my bedroom closet. This is actually an apartment so I can't destroy anything major in this place. The closet that stretch is in right now, trust me is the biggest pain in the ass to move around and try and take pictures. I have to be so stiff moving around to the right side of the closet.

I removed the sliding doors on that closet and put a tarp in there. If you check somewhere along the lines of page 34 or something you should be able to find a video I recorded of my grow op. I'll go back and search for it and PM it to you.

The door on my bedroom closet is a hinged door, which I honestly don't want to dissasemble, just incase any maintenance has to be done. It would make more sense to do flowering in this room, as I could flower more plants at one time and have more space to move around, manage the plants, take pictures etc. I'll probbaly just move my room into the room that stretch is in and just leave my current bedroom empty.

I do have an airvent in this closet, which I don't have currently now. So keeping the closet cool won't be a problem. The only problem I have is getting air out. I don't want to drill any holes in the doors nor do I want to remove doors or cut into ceiling.

Here are some pictures of what the closet looks like and how I setup my practice veg area.
tnaks for that pm, I was offline. I have my control panel setup to show a lot more post per page than its setup by default so it would have taken me forever to find. In fact my stuff says that THIS is page 32, lol. how many pages long does yours say this thread is?)

hmm, I would say that venting outwards would be the most problematic thing about changing the flower area over to this bigger closet...
Actually Im not sure how you would do that in there if you dont want to temporarily remove the door or cut it in any way. Ive made vents for folks to go under closet doors (with the 2-3' gaps that they leave for carpet clearance) before but thats no easy task generally. Is there any extra room @ the top of that door jamb so you could move the closet door hinges up and raise it a couple more inches?
(I stayed in an apartment complex that had the doors hung like that in so if a earthquake happened the doors would have less chance of falling on ppl once, or thats what they told me, I still believe that their contractors were dubasses)

ill try to think up something for that vent as it would be the biggest problem.
How many electrical outlets are in the room? You may be able to disable an outlet and vent into the wall....Ive seen that done as well
 

toolage

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well i guess what i'll do is right after this grow is done i'm going to get everything cleaned up. and get maintenance to come fix everything before I start reconstructing this closet. I'll take the door off to make things easier.
 

kochab

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well i guess what i'll do is right after this grow is done i'm going to get everything cleaned up. and get maintenance to come fix everything before I start reconstructing this closet. I'll take the door off to make things easier.

shit then man, if thats the case You will have a super room set up in no time what so ever(once they are done).:hump:
and by the way you could also throw a few cfls and keep a low profile flowering box in the veg area if you happen to get any lowryder males to keep the pollen for seeds. I may have some seed stock later on if you dont wanna fuck with all that though.... i personally dont know how much Im going to like growing them but they seem pretty potent from everybody elses standards. Lower yields on my outdoor grows but convenience of smaller faster plants...I think itll be a fair trade off... so ill keep some around for quick guerrilla grows anyways :-|

by the way after the maintanance dudes are done, Id gove it another week and a half just in case before you drop that door. When you do, leave the hinges and just take the pins out with a flathead screwdriver/knife/shank lol. leave the door and pins in the room somewhere but not in the closet/room itself. That way if need be you can go in there and put the door back up relatively easily/quickly
You may want to look into making a carbon scrubber as well if its in an apartment there should be tutorials somewhere here if not I can send ya one let me know.
 

toolage

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yeah bro, I'd really like to make this next grow PERFECT! I like to keep it to the DIY way, instead of spending all the money online and hydro stores. But I know I am going to need to purchase a humidifier, and I will look into making a scrubber. I am going to start finding the studs in the ceiling to find the best way to fit the plants. I figure I can make 2 hydro drip feed setups and fit a total of 6 plants in flowering. I think I'm going to make my closet that stretch is in now into the veg closet and put the sliding doors back up. They will be under 24/0 light schedule so I won't need to worry about light leaks or anything like that. That way I can use all of the room I can in that closet for flowering. Thanks again for all of your help bro!
 

kochab

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yeah bro, I'd really like to make this next grow PERFECT! I like to keep it to the DIY way, instead of spending all the money online and hydro stores. But I know I am going to need to purchase a humidifier, and I will look into making a scrubber. I am going to start finding the studs in the ceiling to find the best way to fit the plants. I figure I can make 2 hydro drip feed setups and fit a total of 6 plants in flowering. I think I'm going to make my closet that stretch is in now into the veg closet and put the sliding doors back up. They will be under 24/0 light schedule so I won't need to worry about light leaks or anything like that. That way I can use all of the room I can in that closet for flowering. Thanks again for all of your help bro!
Make sure to get at least one clone off of each northern lights plant before you put any into flowering, sometimes their potency varies a lot between phenos and you want to find the best mom that you can for your operation.:hump: on another note, Id leave that thing you now have up over the veg closet there if @ all possible when you put those sliding doors back up. If its the slatted kind (as most all are) then itll help keep light from bouncing back out of the closet. That way you dont have to worry if maintaince ever has to come in unexpectedly or any shit like that.

and on a another side note, be saving up while strechette is maturing man
this could make that whole closet a flowering room with that 400 watt light. Which would mean multiplying yields by 2-3 times what you would be getting with 10 plants.
if your growing indoors with hid this is the best investment you could make
Now I know you said that you wanted to keep it DIY for the most part but Im sure you can see the potential in this....and not as much power as adding any more lights
 

FrostickZero

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sweet , I took a look at my BC Mango and its only on its 2 actual node but working on its 3rd but I have 2 new brach sites on the 2 sets of nodes
 

kochab

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sweet , I took a look at my BC Mango and its only on its 2 actual node but working on its 3rd but I have 2 new brach sites on the 2 sets of nodes
Wow man, that is a rare happening. Ive never even had it happen. Are you sure that it isnt odd leaf formations on the second node? Anyways Im sure the mango is going to be a treat.
 

FrostickZero

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Wow man, that is a rare happening. Ive never even had it happen. Are you sure that it isnt odd leaf formations on the second node? Anyways Im sure the mango is going to be a treat.
its a 3 pointed leaf =/ , but I have been giving it B-1 Thrive every watering
 

toolage

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alright, so that link is probably the most bad ass thing i've ever seen. that is the greatest $100 investment i've ever seen! I'm definently getting one of those. I'm really psyched about this next grow, it's going to be ace!

I am going to have to repurchase alot of things, like airpump air stones, water pump more nutes etc etc. I don't want to get to out of control with things as this is personal stash type deal, but variety is always an awesome idea! Thank you for all of your help kochab! Definently am going to start moving stuff around that closet very very soon! Going to draw a diagram tomorrow while I'm at work of everything.
 

toolage

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:weed:Update Day 66 Flowering/105 Days from Veg:weed:

Nutes Added in Resevoir:
Added 2 gallons water
1/4 tsp ph down

PH/PPM
5.5/1000

Temp/Humidity
74.1/34%
Max-91.3/54%
Min-63.2/20%

Stretch
I'm getting a little worried. Her leaves are curling over more and more every day. I'm hoping her roots haven't exceeded the pot and are getting root bound. I wasn't expecting her to get this big, she's been in that small pot since the beginning. I have balanced the PH every day, I know I'm not giving her too many nutes, the ppm is fine. Check out the pictures and let me know what you think.

I wanted to start flushing in the next 5 days, anyone discourage that?

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thegigglepimp

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Cant help with your worries sorry man but hope it sorts itself out soon! Apart from that her buds are looking soooo nice lol Im highly jealous :P
 

email468

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i wouldn't rule out heat stress (91 F is pretty high) or nute burn (maybe this strain is very sensitive to nutrients). the problem is - nute burn and nute deficiencies look so similar...
you can try to match up what you are seeing with this:
Marijuana Plant Abuse
 

kochab

New Member
its a 3 pointed leaf =/ , but I have been giving it B-1 Thrive every watering
oh damn. Well @ least it has good leaf progression already. Sorry it wasnt the branches we all want on our seelings:blsmoke:

alright, so that link is probably the most bad ass thing i've ever seen. that is the greatest $100 investment i've ever seen! I'm definently getting one of those. I'm really psyched about this next grow, it's going to be ace!

I am going to have to repurchase alot of things, like airpump air stones, water pump more nutes etc etc. I don't want to get to out of control with things as this is personal stash type deal, but variety is always an awesome idea! Thank you for all of your help kochab! Definently am going to start moving stuff around that closet very very soon! Going to draw a diagram tomorrow while I'm at work of everything.
Your welcome man, I havent really helped all that much, you have been doing most of the actual planning on setting up ya room, Ive just been bouncing ideas around trying to make ya think a bit more. I thought you would love seeing that there are cheap light movers out there, I wish I knew when I was doing indoor grows myself. Another investment you may want to consider making would be the inline fan to properly cool your lights. The pc fans are better than nothing by far, but i dont think they are really doing that much good, your temps are still pretty high up there. You really want em to be in the 70-75 range if you arent using co2

Stretch
I'm getting a little worried. Her leaves are curling over more and more every day. I'm hoping her roots haven't exceeded the pot and are getting root bound. I wasn't expecting her to get this big, she's been in that small pot since the beginning. I have balanced the PH every day, I know I'm not giving her too many nutes, the ppm is fine. Check out the pictures and let me know what you think.

I wanted to start flushing in the next 5 days, anyone discourage that?

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This is one thing I cant help with other than tell you root binding is a myth as far as I know. If plants get everything that they need then they will continue to grow without problem, even if they have no room to expand their roots. It looks like it could be a temp problem....
Also kinda looks like a dwc plant that isnt getting enough oxygen to the roots, so maybe it has to do with your drips (need more or less of them)?
again Im just bouncing ideas around here....

Ive told you I dont care for hydro, this is exactly why, theres just too much SHIT that can happen. Ive had air/water pumps fail while I was away and huge plants die because of it (flood and drain setups and in dwc).

Starting the flush right now wont hurt her unless your problem actually IS a nute deficiency, but usually you can start flushing a plant whenever you want to twords the end of flowering. Ive had strains running indoors that didnt taste "clean" unless they were flushed for 3 weeks, and Ive also had strains that only needed 1 week flush because they didnt require many nutes in the first place and had a sweet taste to them naturally without flushing (so i did 1 week of flushing to get rid of the harsh burn nutes give your throat).

i wouldn't rule out heat stress (91 F is pretty high) or nute burn (maybe this strain is very sensitive to nutrients). the problem is - nute burn and nute deficiencies look so similar...
you can try to match up what you are seeing with this:
Marijuana Plant Abuse
Overheating is a possible cause...
I still dont think that it is showing symptoms of nute burn. Usually the first symptom in that is yellowing/burnt looking leaves. Then again it dosent look like a nute defficiancy to me either. Usually plants that have a deficiency dont look healthy... and strechette does look healthy with the exception of the drooping leaves. This really looks like over or under watering to me, but I cant call it for sure because its hydro.
 
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kochab

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I think t hat if it was under watering then the plant would be kinda dry twords the tips where they are curled....Im thinking shes over watered toolage..
keep us updated on her though mate.
 

email468

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I think t hat if it was under watering then the plant would be kinda dry twords the tips where they are curled....Im thinking shes over watered toolage..
keep us updated on her though mate.
I thought this was a DWC - if this is a drip system that drains out (roots not hanging in res) then it does indeed look over watered combined with heat stress.

and if you are making up your own feeding regimen (not using a 2 or 3 part with supplements) then i would also look to possible deficiencies - provided your pH isn't swinging wildly.

I wouldn't flush until you are ready to harvest. You can just change the reservoir - no need to flush.
 

kochab

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I thought this was a DWC - if this is a drip system that drains out (roots not hanging in res) then it does indeed look over watered combined with heat stress.

and if you are making up your own feeding regimen (not using a 2 or 3 part with supplements) then i would also look to possible deficiencies - provided your pH isn't swinging wildly.

ha ha I thought it was @ first myself too email, but no he is using a timed drip feeding system(Im pretty sure he said that it was set @ 2 drips a second) , which is amazing for a plant the size of strechette's size to me anways anyways.

I wouldn't flush until you are ready to harvest. You can just change the reservoir - no need to flush.
Day 66 Flowering
hes getting on in there man and I think that hes getting right near the end of this grow. 2-3 weeks left, IF that. Probably wouldent hurt to go ahead and start the flushing....
 
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