First Grow: Are My Girls Looking, Okay?

bekindbud

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Chief, the Northern Lights and Master Kush seeds put out their little taproots, just as I expected. I planted them in the seed starter soil Friday evening, so they should be doing their thing and popping in a couple days or so. I sure hope they're girls...

-Mandi
Mandi what do you have for trade?
 

manditroy

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For the moment, I have AK48 and a few Short Riders...I will hopefully have more of the Short Riders and my own crossbreed 'Hakuna Matata' (AK48 and Blue Mystic) when my current grow is harvested in 5 or 6 weeks. I pollinated several buds of one cola on each plant, so I should have a nice supply when the girls are ready. If you want any AK48s or Short Riders, I would be interested in trading for a couple of something else. I just want to try different strains. I did a trade for a pair of Master Kush and Northern Lights with Chief already - and have just germed one of each of those. What do you have BKB?
-Mandi

Mandi what do you have for trade?
 

Green Growbot

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I know I said I would reply to you on Friday but i had to force my wife to let me take her to the e.r. so thats where i spent a good part of the day. I just wanted to tell you thanks again and ill get back to you as soon as I can. i did go and buy a tri-probe today that does moisture, lighting/heat, and ph. Something i really needed! To my surprise, the Ph was almost perfect at 6.9 (with mostly plain tap h2o!), the heat was a little high so i moved the light from 9"away to 14" which i should have done a week ago. and the moisture was WAY too high at 9/10 down by the roots so i must really have a serious drain prob! I did the nute flush 5 days ago now and no h2 since n its still that high! Ideas? I know i could try and pull some bad dirt out n put good stuff in but its getting so think in there id prob tear a leaf or 2 tryin to get to it.
is this where the buds are going to show up?in the pics where the leaves are spliting?
 

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manditroy

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Green - only thing I can suggest is to try putting even more drain holes in the bottom. It likely has to do with the clay soil...that will hold moisture so much longer than soil with a good peat/perlite, etc mixed into it. If you want to risk root damage, you could try digging out some of the clay and switching to better soil, but it may be too much of a shock for her. I would chalk it up to experience and just finish her out as is, then next time go with the good soil. The buds will form where the leaves or branches meet at the stem. The point where the new leaves are growing from, at the top of each branch, will be a bud site too.
 

Green Growbot

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Green - only thing I can suggest is to try putting even more drain holes in the bottom. It likely has to do with the clay soil...that will hold moisture so much longer than soil with a good peat/perlite, etc mixed into it. If you want to risk root damage, you could try digging out some of the clay and switching to better soil, but it may be too much of a shock for her. I would chalk it up to experience and just finish her out as is, then next time go with the good soil. The buds will form where the leaves or branches meet at the stem. The point where the new leaves are growing from, at the top of each branch, will be a bud site too.
If you notice like i did in the top view of the plant it appears to have a blue tinge to it. I cant remember, but i think thats phosphorus D- what takes care of that? do you know? somebody told me to use dolemite lime for something but im not sure what that was for. ive been curing for some body else the last week or so, so that i have money for my supplies and practice for mine when its ready. but i went to our ag store here today where the sell a ton of mj grow stuff and they have these black grow house things for sale w/ exhaust outlet fans and lights and everything. the 7' was $800. not a bad deal for the house, fans and 400w hps with ballast huh?
 

bekindbud

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GG why dont you pull the plant out of the container to look at the root so you know if your having root problems? Just wait for your soil to be dry and check the roots. Have you ever taken a plant out of a container or up canned a plant before? I recommend you transplant that plant into a larger container and flush your soil and feed.

Peace

BKB
 

Green Growbot

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GG why dont you pull the plant out of the container to look at the root so you know if your having root problems? Just wait for your soil to be dry and check the roots. Have you ever taken a plant out of a container or up canned a plant before? I recommend you transplant that plant into a larger container and flush your soil and feed.

Peace

BKB
i would love to pull it out n fix it but its getting pretty big 20"wide and 23" tall and im afraid that would put to much strain on the plant. ive never done what you are talking about. its my first canni plant.
 

CHIEF PUFF PUFF

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Glad to hear the seeds germinated for you Manditroy. I hope you get girls too so I can see how the Northern Lights grow for you:)
Chief, the Northern Lights and Master Kush seeds put out their little taproots, just as I expected. I planted them in the seed starter soil Friday evening, so they should be doing their thing and popping in a couple days or so. I sure hope they're girls...

-Mandi
 

Green Growbot

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i had a moisture reading of 10 today!!! It actually pegged the needle so i just couldnt take it anymore. I dug around the bottom of the plant, below the roots, down about 8". I pulled it out as a whole (like a palm tree) with the roots still contained in the moist ball of dirt and set it in another pot for about 5 minutes while i dug own all the bad dirt except for the stuff containing the roots. Replaced w/ good soil and drilled some bigger holes in the bottom of the bucket, put it up on some pieces of wood to support the corners of the bucket so it could still drain out. this seems to be a much better deal than what i had!
BIG prob now though, everything seems to be perfect, EXCEPT this new soil i put in had a damn Ph reading of 2! The other stuff was at 6.9. No money for other chems right now at this time for Ph up or anything. Any ideas on what i can do to raise that with at home stuff?
At least with this new soil i can feel comfortable using some nutes now. up to this point its had barely any. The only nute i have is something called "CNS17" does anyone have any experience with this stuff?​
 

manditroy

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Green - I don't know much about PH fixes, but found this to help you out...
As for the repotting, I hope she was unhappy enough in her clay to forgive the disturbance of being molested at this late stage. Maybe she will surprise us and start growing like mad in relief and thanks for the fresh soil. Hope you used something with a little peat/perlite in it to help drainage.

(PASTED FROM A SICK PLANT GUIDE)
Here are some ph buffers when your ph is too high: Use these SOIL PH Adjustments to lower your ph: sawdust, composted leaves, wood chips, cottonseed meal, leaf mold and peat moss. Sawdust, composted leaves, woodchips and, lemon juice, PH Down (vinegar and lemon juices are good for soil, but not recommended for hydro use).

Here are some that will raise the ph: use these SOIL Adjustments when your ph is too low: PH UP, dolomite lime, hardwood ash, bone meal, crushed marble, or crushed oyster shells, potassium hydroxide <--- Thank you Uncle Ben!
 

Green Growbot

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Oh im pretty sure she was quite un happy with her previous condition! When i dug all that clay crap outta there it was soaking wet. So wet i had like moisture droplets on my vinyl gloves.I could feel wetness through them. And it was packed in there so tight from nothing ever draining that it was litterally like concrete! when i pulled the bucket out fair guess on weight would be 45-50 lbs! I replaced it with the better stuff and i had one of those moments where u think something is going to be really heavy and its not, if i werent being careful id have thrown the plant into the upstairs neighbors floor. Ill bet it was maybe 12lbs afterword. I dug down far enough that i didnt hit any roots so they all stayed contained in that hard ball of that clay crap. I think shes safe. Ill for sure send some more pictures of what she looks like in a few days n you can tell me if sh looks "happier". haha

Thanks a lot for finding that info for me it should really help. Ive been soooo damn busy. I had to cure 5 plants for somebody in the past 2 days. Ive had no time for anything.​
 

bekindbud

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Green Growbot, you need to make a journal for yourself and also start a thread in Marijuana Plant Problems, you will get a lot more help by having your own threads. I dont know if you ever read the stickys in the grow journal but your kind of jacking Mandi's thread. You seem cool and Mandi is helping you out a lot but its not fair to take away form Mandi's journal like that. I am not trying to be a dick or anything just trying to get you the right help in the right place.

Peace

BKB
 

CHIEF PUFF PUFF

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Yo Mandi that Blue Mystic better be a damn FEMALE:) Harvesting every 4-5 weeks would be cool, wish I had the room.QUOTE=manditroy;5430843]Hey Chief, at last look a couple hours ago, the NL looked like it was starting to peek a taproot out the crack. The MK seems to be close to the same. I'll bet I have enough showing to pop them into their seed starter soil by Friday night. I just did one of each for now, so I hope I picked girls. I'm trying to keep a perpetual grow going so I can have a harvest every 4 or 5 weeks. They can share the veg and flower rooms with my BM girl (she WILL be a girl - I won't have it any other way LOL).[/QUOTE]
 

CHIEF PUFF PUFF

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I was going to suggest the same thing to Green Growbot. High-jacking someone's thread is not polite but Manditroy is cool. If you start your own thread, Manditroy and others will gladly help you. Everyone has done it before and was told the same thing we are telling you. Believe me, some didn't tell us kindly:)
Green Growbot, you need to make a journal for yourself and also start a thread in Marijuana Plant Problems, you will get a lot more help by having your own threads. I dont know if you ever read the stickys in the grow journal but your kind of jacking Mandi's thread. You seem cool and Mandi is helping you out a lot but its not fair to take away form Mandi's journal like that. I am not trying to be a dick or anything just trying to get you the right help in the right place.

Peace

BKB
 

Green Growbot

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Green Growbot, you need to make a journal for yourself and also start a thread in Marijuana Plant Problems, you will get a lot more help by having your own threads. I dont know if you ever read the stickys in the grow journal but your kind of jacking Mandi's thread. You seem cool and Mandi is helping you out a lot but its not fair to take away form Mandi's journal like that. I am not trying to be a dick or anything just trying to get you the right help in the right place.

Peace


BKB
i realized that i am doing that and it wasnt intensional you would see that my 1st post explicitly states that. I was told that her post was from months ago by her. It just kinda happened that we got to talking about my stuff. I do have one in plant probs. I know that it dosent matter to you but I had recently given you both rep for your help.
 

manditroy

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Thanks Chief and BKB...no worries (Hakuna Matata-LOL-that's why I chose that name for my new crossbreed)! Yeah, Green...I really don't mind trying to help you out with your grow, but that said, I'm only on my second grow myself, so I may not be the best one to take your information from. I've read a whole lot and learned plenty on RIU and other sites, but I am far from experienced. If you have your own thread, you may be able to get one or two of the veteran growers to lead you through your problems better than I could. I try not to give advice unless I'm pretty sure it's correct, but I can add links to helpful stuff I've found in my reading. If you send me a link to your threads, I will be glad to sub them and keep up with you there. If you asked BKB, or some other 'Mr Ganja' rated members to check in with you, I'm sure you would get expert help.

-Mandi
 

manditroy

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Chief - I've got a little Master Kush sprout!!! It's just working on standing up and spreading its seed leaves, but it's green and healthy looking. Still waiting for the Northern Lights to pop, but it shouldn't be far behind...

-Mandi
 

bekindbud

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Chief - I've got a little Master Kush sprout!!! It's just working on standing up and spreading its seed leaves, but it's green and healthy looking. Still waiting for the Northern Lights to pop, but it shouldn't be far behind...

-Mandi
Keep us posted on the NL i got the same seeds bro! I am not starting mine till the summer though!!!

@GG I am trying to help you out bro, I just dont want to take away from Mandi;s thread. Make a new thread and PM the link and I will help you get dialed in on your plants. I am all about helping bro!

Peace

BKB
 

CHIEF PUFF PUFF

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That's why BKB & I mentioned it to you Green Growbot because you seem to be a cool person who just wants help. We know it was not intentional and would be glad to offer any advise we can give to help you produce some fire ass weed:) People were not kind to me when I asked for help with my plants on their threads and I don't want you to go through that.

Hey Manditroy, the beans arrived today and all of them were in tack and whole:) I'm excited about having the regular BM and the AK48 seeds, can't wait to grow them. I'm glad the Kush seed sprouted for you, now we wait for the Northern Light to sprout:)
i realized that i am doing that and it wasnt intensional you would see that my 1st post explicitly states that. I was told that her post was from months ago by her. It just kinda happened that we got to talking about my stuff. I do have one in plant probs. I know that it dosent matter to you but I had recently given you both rep for your help.
 

manditroy

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Great news Chief! It seems we've found the solution to protecting our beans from the atrocities inflicted by the USPS machinery. I got a 10pack of those bubble mailers, so I should be good for some more trades if anyone else wants to join in. I'll grab a couple wallets from the dollar store and I should be good to go...

The Master Kush sprout is opened up and doing her thing, but the Northern Lights is still napping under her seed starter blankie. Gave it a spritz of water to make sure it had enough moisture to poke through, so I hope it will wake up soon.

-Mandi
 
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