Cheers mk.
I am really jealous of that lemon skunk. Alot of plants dont look that good so early on. If that turns out to be female I bet that would be a great mother plant, and I can only imagine what the smoke would be like.
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I am really jealous of that lemon skunk. Alot of plants dont look that good so early on. If that turns out to be female I bet that would be a great mother plant, and I can only imagine what the smoke would be like.
machnak
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Thanks a lot Fly & MK! I've pretty much been doing everything you said Fly, other than the watering. I only gave them 1 1/2 cup because I transplanted them just to help not stress them out, they went from party cups to 5 gal so I figured the water wouldn't be overkill. The 1/2 was perfect for them, in the three days they got damp, dry, dry dry. If that makes sense haha.
Anyways I'll take a few more pictures shortly.
Thanks again guys!
-Mach
Good stuff.
Just for added measure, I'll throw my 2 cents in once again. This time about transplanting. When you transplant, fill the new container about 3/4 with soil. Then tap the container on the sides, or lift it and tap the bottom on the ground or counter, wherever you are working. This will settle the soil and gid rid of any air pockets. Dont press the soil or pack it down. That will make it too dense and the roots will have to work hard to grow through the soil. After you have patted the container and settled the soil, top it up with more soil until its about 3/4 full again.
Now add your water/nutrient mix. Pour slowly and evenly across all of the top until you start to see the run off out of the botton of the container. Pour slowly so that you dont get alot of wasted water gushing out.
Now make a hole in the soil just a little bit larger than the container you are transplanting from. This will ensure the roots go into the new pot with no damage. Carefully place the plant the soil in the hole and gently press it down to ensure the roots have good contact with the new soil underneath. Now fill in the sides around the plant with the remaining soil around the hole you made. Press gently, again to make sure the roots on the sides have good contact with the new soil. If you used the right amount of soil, and made the hole big enough and deep enough, you will find there isnt enough soil to cover the soil from the original pot. This is what you want. Now take some more of your dry soil mix and fill in the sides and top. Cover the top with about 1/4 to 1/2 inch (depending on how big the plant is) of the dry soil. The goal here is to make sure that a portion of the stem that was previously above soil is now just below the soil. This will allow the stem/stalk to grow very strong and sturdy to support all the new growth. Gently pat down the soil around the soil. Not too hard. You want it to feel pretty much like what an angel-food cake would feel. If you have any clay pebbles or other similar stones, put a few on the top of the soil. This way when you water you wont be making puddles and craters on the top of the soil.
Once you have done that add 1/4 cup or less of your nutrient mix to wet the dry soil on top. If you use superthrive, this is the time to use it. Just one drop is all you need to that last bit of water. If done correctly and at the the right times you shouldnt need to transplant more than 2 or 3 times in the entire lifespan of the plant. Any more than that is undue stress to the plant. One thing to note, its best to let the plant sit in a pot for a couple of days once the roots have made it to the bottom. This will give you a bigger root mass, and the extra days will let the plant devote some energy into new branch and nodal growth. If you transplant too soon, or in a pot thats too large, then the plant is using all its energy rooting deeper and deeper. From a party cup to a 5 gallon bucket was probably too big a leap. The key here is balance. A plant can survive and grow well in a 5 inch pot well into its 5th or 6th week. When you transplant, you want to see a mostly roots at the bottom. If you see only a few roots, then you could have waited a couple more days before transplanting.
If you do it as I described above, you wont need to water again for about a week. From there about every 2 to 3 days during vegatative, and every 1 to 2 days during flower.
I hope that made sense, if not, let me know and I will try to explain a little better.
Of course you could just tell me to keep quiet too. LOL
EDIT
Maybe in future, for your initial transplant from seedlings, transplant to a 2 or 3 gallon before going to the 5 gallon. Also, if that plant turns out to be a male thats alot of wasted soil and nutrients if you went straight to a 5 gallon bucket. You should be able to stay in smaller pots long enough to get a clone rooted and sexed. Providing your plant isnt growing so big and fast that it becomes pot bound and starts to suffer, I imagine you could say in a medium sized pot at least until you get your first clones sexed. Then you can transplant your "mothers" to a bigger pot or bucket. Once you know you have a female to clone, let those clones get a really nice root mass in their small cubes or whatever you are using, that way you can go into a much larger pot straight away. You really dont want to be transplanting once you move a clone into flower as it will slow the growth at least for a few days. And the growth is much faster during flower, so going into a larger pot from a clone isnt the same as your initial transplants.
machnak
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I transplanted when majority of the roots were on the bottom of the party cup, I should of taken a picture of them. Anyways that all makes perfect sense. I'll use every bit of it when I transplant WW1, WW2, MYS1, MYS2, MYS3. =)
I also lifted the soil and tapped on the pot to get ride of airpockets. Then filled with a bit more after planted. So for the most part I did maybe 40% of what you said haha.
Quiet?! Fuck that! I love information, after all the more I know, the better the grow. =)
I also lifted the soil and tapped on the pot to get ride of airpockets. Then filled with a bit more after planted. So for the most part I did maybe 40% of what you said haha.
Quiet?! Fuck that! I love information, after all the more I know, the better the grow. =)
Cool. Sometimes I worry that I butt in too much LOL
BTW I made a slight edit to the 3rd paragraph in the previous post, and added a bit at the bottom too.
Because they are growing from seeds, I would go to a smaller pot still. The reason is they arent mature yet. And the smaller pot allows the plant to devote some of its energy to nodal growth. And you want lots of nodes and branches for cloning purposes. Especially if you know you have a female, you want to get as many clones as you can.
Now, take this bit with a grain of salt as I dont have any first hand knowledge, this is just what I have heard. I have heard that feminised seeds cause the plant to be harder to clone. If thats the case you may not have a great success rate and therefore will require more potential sites to take cuttings from. Having said that, I am very certain that pot size is definitely relative to how rapidily and how dense a plant grows. There are other factors of course such as genetics etc, but it doesnt hurt to transplant that one size smaller first. In addition the smaller size will cause the root system to very full as well.
Maybe some in a smaller and one or two in a bigger? Then you can see which is better. Its the first grow and each strain will be slightly different. If you are going to grow any of these strains in the future, you will have a better idea what works best for a particular strain. I once read from an expert grower that it takes him on average 4 generations before he fully understands the nuances of a particular strain.
Part of the fun in the first grow is seeing what works well and not so well.
machnak
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Very true and good to know about the strains. Hence, I record everything as often as I can and put it into notebook. =) I'll use the MYS' to try this. So, One will go in a 5. Two will go to a 3 to 5. The white widows will go in a 3-5 as well.
Man I'm getting all antsy waiting to see the results haha.
Man I'm getting all antsy waiting to see the results haha.
Thats the hardest part...the waiting. Seems like forever since I put mine in flower, but is only been 3 weeks LOL
I'm anxious for you, I am curious to see which of your strains get the highest overall rating. Picking the strain maybe be one of the hardest decision a grower ever makes.
machnak
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Haha, I don't even want to start feeling your pain!!!!
And am I my friend. I someday wish to be able to say I've grown them all....someday. =)
I'd be happier to say I tested them all! HA!
machnak
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All I'm saying is either way, I'm stoked. =)
Its always nice to see the little babies come through. I planted 2 more seeds the day before yesterday, and I got two seedlings that are really taking off. Now I need to decide whether to start a new journal for them.
How are the seedlings that you put in the bags doing?
How are the seedlings that you put in the bags doing?
Nice. The MK and LS plants are looking SWEET!
machnak
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Thanks mk! I actually took a shit load of pictures before their lights came on this morning but left for work and forgot my camera. Unfortunately I work til 2AM today, and it's 10:03AM now. FML. But I'll get my girl to send them to me so I can give a little update.
Everything seems to be going pretty smooth right now, a little too smooth haha.