Let me rephrase, if I did buy it I would just have it for awhile considering the size. Do you think it would be ok to leave it sitting around until it is all used?
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Let me rephrase, if I did buy it I would just have it for awhile considering the size. Do you think it would be ok to leave it sitting around until it is all used?
Figong
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As long as it's not in a super hot area, or a place known for extremely high humidity.. you shouldn't have a problem with a bag of castings at all. I have seen the problems detailed in my initial post when I am get 50lb bags of things for making hydro veg and flower nutes. Was just giving a heads-up on that, as knowledge is power.. and you don't want to go and buy things for a new type of grow later on and get hit with nasty surprises. 
As long as it's not in a super hot area, or a place known for extremely high humidity.. you shouldn't have a problem with a bag of castings at all. I have seen the problems detailed in my initial post when I am get 50lb bags of things for making hydro veg and flower nutes. Was just giving a heads-up on that, as knowledge is power.. and you don't want to go and buy things for a new type of grow later on and get hit with nasty surprises.
Knowledge is power my friend much appreciated. Most of my stuff is just small scale, so I don't think I will be having to worry about stuff like that just yet. How did you like the new pics? Any feedback on a good time to last. I think either today or tomorrow i'm going to purchase a T5 or T8 so that I can move the guys in dixie cups to bigger pots i'm thinking 1gl before they get root bound. After that i'm thinking of begging to top and LST them as I hoping to create some monsters!
Figong
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Go T5, or HOT5 if in the budget. Cost vs what you get will be better than T8, no matter which bulb manufacturer you're running gear-wise... that said, how dry are you letting the soil get before add more? I will assume you're not putting nutes at all in just yet, and most certainly keep an eye out for rootbound issues. I see what appears to be the -very- start of leaf crinkling in one of the pictures, which could be just due to camera angle and lighting. Everything else is lookin' good and I wouldn't worry at all. Can't wait to see the transplant, and if you notice a color change and a slight droop on transplant, don't panic - that's normal for most strains.
Was planning to get a T5 and you made my mind, what is the difference between the HOT5 and the T5? For the dryness i'm using a moisture checker, so right before that hits the top of the dry mark bottom level moist I will slowly add water until it drips from the bottom of the cup. We are planning on moving the bigger guys to one gallon pots as I think they just stopped growing last night. Thanks for the heads up about the color change and droop with the transplant. I've been pondering the leaf crinkle and slight droop for sometime now. I can't say its been gradually getting worse, but it has been there for about a day. Its bugging me because we are keeping the plants just about perfectly moist, and our room temp is a perfect 82 degrees. Do you know what could be the cause of the leaf crinkle? I'll have a couple more photos up maybe later tonight if I get sometime so you guys can see the growth of the sprouts. Looking forward to the transplant myself, just have to go get my hands on a T5'er. Thanks
That's what our suspicions were as well. We really couldn't draw up any other conclusions other than it just needs more room to grow, and the lack of it is what is making it have more droopy/crinkly leaves. Thanks for the advice. I'm going to have my old lady go grab a HOT5 from the grow store, and am going to try and transplant those ladies tonight. Keep you posted with pics
Figong
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That's what our suspicions were as well. We really couldn't draw up any other conclusions other than it just needs more room to grow, and the lack of it is what is making it have more droopy/crinkly leaves. Thanks for the advice. I'm going to have my old lady go grab a HOT5 from the grow store, and am going to try and transplant those ladies tonight. Keep you posted with pics
Look forward to it, and watching the veg growth - love the smell of the veg, almost as much as full bloom
Yeah man i'm planning on it going to give them a couple more days grow time. I'm transplanting the bigger ones really soon. Just got my closet set up as a veg space. Went down to the grow store and got me a T5 that's going to be pushing 20,000 lumens, so that should be tities. Hey man have a question I don't know if you could answer or if anyone could answer for that reason. I'm trying to find some lime for my soil mixture, due to the fact that my pH uper really isn't doing shit to my big mix of soil. The lime is suppose to raise the acidity of the mix that I know. Would you know of any places I could find the granulated or form that mixes the easiest? I went to Lowes and Orchard Supply Hardware. Lowes didn't have it, and OSH had only the form in pellets. I was reading on the forum earlier that that form of lime could take weeks to months to lower the ph i'm looking for a quicker way. Also man right now in my mixture i'm running 75% black gold 20% perlite and 5% verm, is there anything you think I should add to that? I was thinking maybe some blood meal because of the nitrogen it offers; thought that would be good for the little ladies up until I can start giving them the adv newts.
Figong
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Powder form dolomite will be the -fastest- introduction into the soil possible, and most greenhouses should stock it as well. Our local lowes doesn't carry at all, either does our home depot. The lil' specialized greenhouse that's in the sticks away from civilization had 6 types from me to choose from in terms of size of the granules.
Figong
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As for other things in soil... if it's in the budget, worm castings and a few other things will help you greatly... there's many soil recipes that are proven solid in the organics section, as well as a heavy discussion compost teas should you decide to go in that direction.
Greatly appreciated bro! I picked up some pellet lime. It will get the job done, and got my hands on some blood meal. I was thinking about getting bone meal as well, but I've already picked up a bag of Jamaican bat guano that has a just as high P ratio than the home meal. Had a question for anyone out there. The guano says to feed by water. However if I already have bone meal mixed into my soil mixed into my soil would that be to hot on the phosphorus for my little ladies?
Hello all,
Finally got the time and materials to transplant the two ladies. For my mixture I decided to go with a pretty basic, hopefully effective mix. In all there was six gallons 75% came from Black Gold soil 20% was perlite, and the remaining 5% was verm. While these babies are still little i'm going to be giving them some organic feed via spreading the nutes over the water line, and than watering them down into the soil. I started them off cut back as I didn't want to newt shock or burn them. The newts i'm giving them are Blood meal which has an NPK of 12-0-0 the high nitrogen should be good for the rapidly growing roots, as well as some Jamacian bat guano. The ratio for that was 1-10-1 which will be good for the stem and leaf growth. I'm not really for sure how often I want to feed them yet. I was thinking maybe a water/water/newt cycle would do the trick any suggestions? Hope you enjoy the pics of the newly transplanted ladies, and I also included a pic or two of the sproutlings. They are coming along really nice starting to get some good fat main set leaves which is making me a happy camper. Hope you enjoy! Comments and feedback greatly appreciated.
Thanks all
Finally got the time and materials to transplant the two ladies. For my mixture I decided to go with a pretty basic, hopefully effective mix. In all there was six gallons 75% came from Black Gold soil 20% was perlite, and the remaining 5% was verm. While these babies are still little i'm going to be giving them some organic feed via spreading the nutes over the water line, and than watering them down into the soil. I started them off cut back as I didn't want to newt shock or burn them. The newts i'm giving them are Blood meal which has an NPK of 12-0-0 the high nitrogen should be good for the rapidly growing roots, as well as some Jamacian bat guano. The ratio for that was 1-10-1 which will be good for the stem and leaf growth. I'm not really for sure how often I want to feed them yet. I was thinking maybe a water/water/newt cycle would do the trick any suggestions? Hope you enjoy the pics of the newly transplanted ladies, and I also included a pic or two of the sproutlings. They are coming along really nice starting to get some good fat main set leaves which is making me a happy camper. Hope you enjoy! Comments and feedback greatly appreciated.
Thanks all
Hello all,
It's been 3 days since the transplants, and the ladies aren't doing so great. The plant on the left is showing very little and slow signs of growth. I'm not for sure if that is from the shock of the transplant, or if it had started to get root bound and doesn't want to grow anymore (hoping that isn't the case). On top of that i'm starting to get some irregularities with my newts. I've got a couple pics of the ladies leaves on the left. There is a slight discoloration on the outside of it, and the progress of that discoloration is really slow. With the plant on the right I have a close up shot of the leaf and you can see some spotting. I've downloaded the helpful nutrient deficiency cheat sheet, and it looks to me like they are starting to show early signs of nitrogen(due to the yellow discoloration), potash(due to the few black spots and discoloration to the inside of the leaf), and sulfur (due to the curled and discolored leaves) deficiences . Any comments or suggestions from someone with a more keen eye than mine? The newts I bought that contain potash are Humboldt county's own Snow Storm Ultra which has 0-0-3 NPK a small dosage of that should help, as well as, an all natural Grape Sweetener I picked up. That's going to give the plant 1.50% magnesium (Mg) and 2.00% Combined Sulfur. I'm thinking those small amounts won't be to strong for the plants, and will stop the problem since I caught it early. With all that said and done the peat moss is doing its job, water retention is great. I'm thinking I can give them a couple more days before I top. Ideally I wanted them all nice and healthy from the transplant before I started fucking with them more. However, I did get some underneath shots of the nodes and as you can see the 4th node is starting to pop and should be ready as soon as these ladies recover. Hopefully that wasn't to much for you guys and as always feedback is greatly appreciated and welcomed.
Thanks all
It's been 3 days since the transplants, and the ladies aren't doing so great. The plant on the left is showing very little and slow signs of growth. I'm not for sure if that is from the shock of the transplant, or if it had started to get root bound and doesn't want to grow anymore (hoping that isn't the case). On top of that i'm starting to get some irregularities with my newts. I've got a couple pics of the ladies leaves on the left. There is a slight discoloration on the outside of it, and the progress of that discoloration is really slow. With the plant on the right I have a close up shot of the leaf and you can see some spotting. I've downloaded the helpful nutrient deficiency cheat sheet, and it looks to me like they are starting to show early signs of nitrogen(due to the yellow discoloration), potash(due to the few black spots and discoloration to the inside of the leaf), and sulfur (due to the curled and discolored leaves) deficiences . Any comments or suggestions from someone with a more keen eye than mine? The newts I bought that contain potash are Humboldt county's own Snow Storm Ultra which has 0-0-3 NPK a small dosage of that should help, as well as, an all natural Grape Sweetener I picked up. That's going to give the plant 1.50% magnesium (Mg) and 2.00% Combined Sulfur. I'm thinking those small amounts won't be to strong for the plants, and will stop the problem since I caught it early. With all that said and done the peat moss is doing its job, water retention is great. I'm thinking I can give them a couple more days before I top. Ideally I wanted them all nice and healthy from the transplant before I started fucking with them more. However, I did get some underneath shots of the nodes and as you can see the 4th node is starting to pop and should be ready as soon as these ladies recover. Hopefully that wasn't to much for you guys and as always feedback is greatly appreciated and welcomed.
Thanks all
SpaceBuddha
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Always interested to see how the strains I also grow myself are doing with others.
I wouldn't worry about the couple odd leaves you got, 2 of my ww's have some of these too, while the 2 others don't share any of these signs.
My WW's grow in the same container, get same nutes etc. and despite the few odd leaves, everything seems alright, no apparent stunted growth or so.
Always interested to see how the strains I also grow myself are doing with others.
I wouldn't worry about the couple odd leaves you got, 2 of my ww's have some of these too, while the 2 others don't share any of these signs.
My WW's grow in the same container, get same nutes etc. and despite the few odd leaves, everything seems alright, no apparent stunted growth or so.
Thanks I just rechecked again and they are taking in a lot more moisture I was able to lower my light a little while still keeping it a friendly distance for the plants. They are gradually taking to their new homes which is taking weight of my shoulders. Another thing drawing concerns is the pH of the soil it staying at a high 7. I purchased an organic soil acidifier from Espsoma, and have sprinkled the designated amount around the drip line. However, i've only watered with the actual pellets on top of the soil twice which I think it causing the slow delay in pH drop. The ladies look like they'll be needing some water tomorrow i'm hoping I can see a little more gradual drop to that desired 6.5ish overall soil pH.
So do I just sit tight for a couple of days? If it doesn't get worse just don't worry about it, and let the plant grow out of it? Also what about the leaves that had a couple spots on them, and the inside curling? Does that come from the related transplant stress factor, or is that a sign of an early deficiency, and if so would it be potash and sulfur? Thanks
SpaceBuddha
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That is quite a high pH for soil, if I were you I'd feed water of around pH 6.0, or even lower, cos then the soil would balance the feeding to a somewhat decent pH.
On my own grow I didn't notice much stress at all from transplanting, it could just be the seaweed extract powder I liberally coated the transplant holes with.
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